Europe Deserves Islam

Sep 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Arutz Sheva Israel News

On the 7th of June, the elementary school "Yves Codou", in the municipality of La Mole, France, celebrated the "Holiday of the Parents" instead of Mother's Day, so as not to upset the homosexual couples of France, where gay marriage is legal ...

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So, because you are atheist, you refuse to make ANY concession to those who observe some religious principles?
Do you have a power of attorney from the Lord to follow the conditions of the people?

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Europe has turned a blind eye to extremist Muslims much like the America's (ESP USA) have turned a blind eye to Christian conservatives.

BOTH are a disaster which only offer cruelty and want to return to the dark ages .

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hugh wrote:
So, because you are atheist, you refuse to make ANY concession to those who observe some religious principles?
Atheism is not the matter.
As far as a majority of the peoples follow a common law they agree with, it's up to those who observe special religious principles to make concessions.

For instance, if a public school canteen provides meals to all its pupils, and that special food for believers of one or another religion is more expensive than ordinary food, it's up these believers' families to pay the difference.

If the Police needs to check that a masked face muslim woman driver is the very person which owns the driving licence, either she unveils her face,
or she waits until a policewoman can check if her beliefs is that only close male parents can see her face, although I don't see any reason why Police should make any exception to usual rules.
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Atheism is not the matter.
As far as a majority of the peoples follow a common law they agree with, it's up to those who observe special religious principles to make concessions.
For instance, if a public school canteen provides meals to all its pupils, and that special food for believers of one or another religion is more expensive than ordinary food, it's up these believers' families to pay the difference.
If the Police needs to check that a masked face muslim woman driver is the very person which owns the driving licence, either she unveils her face,
or she waits until a policewoman can check if her beliefs is that only close male parents can see her face, although I don't see any reason why Police should make any exception to usual rules.
Any democratic society should protect the rights of minorities, and not just impose the wish of its majority. Once you forget that, you instaur a dictatorship of the majority and you start to discriminate against minority groups, be they ethnic, religious or other.

If you specifically exclude parts of the population by legislation, discrimination and create a two-tiers society, you can expect some people to be desenfranchised and reject the community. That is the problem in France, where almost 200 years of secularism has alienated anyone not subscribing to the norm of laicity, anticlericlericanism, anti-semitism and now anti-Islam.

In my view, France is too atheist and too socialist; these two go hand in hand.
It was said in the 19th century that to be a good republican one had to "bouffe du curé", later it was anti-semitism that was in fashion (Dreyfuss affair), now, good patriotic French must "casser du bougnoul".

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hugh wrote:
Any democratic society should protect the rights of minorities, and not just impose the wish of its majority. Once you forget that, you instaur a dictatorship of the majority and you start to discriminate against minority groups, be they ethnic, religious or other.If you specifically exclude parts of the population by legislation, discrimination and create a two-tiers society, you can expect some people to be desenfranchised and reject the community.
You want to forget that some minorities discriminate.
Obligation made to muslim women to marry only a muslim is disriminatory, masked muslim women exigence to let show their face only to female policewomen is discriminatoty,
exigence avoid presence of female watchers asked by jew students in an examination room is discriminatory.
Obligation for a rom girl to marry only a Rom is discriminatory
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That is the problem in France, where almost 200 years of secularism has alienated anyone not subscribing to the norm of laicity, anticlericlericanism, anti-semitism and now anti-Islam.
In my view, France is too atheist and too socialist; these two go hand in hand.It was said in the 19th century that to be a good republican one had to "bouffe du curé", later it was anti-semitism that was in fashion (Dreyfuss affair), now, good patriotic French must "casser du bougnoul".
As all excessive arguments, that's crap, if peoples really don't like the french society and laws, best for them is to quit it. The truth is that these minorities want at the same time benefit with the french social laws while claiming that they are victims of laws which don't give them some more rigths than average french citizens

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... Only the stupid peoples think about events in tendencies
the clever one think with the feed back
Events happen in context; France is trapped between political correctness and its history in Algeria.

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Events happen in context; France is trapped between political correctness and its history in Algeria.
Yes while politically correct France confessed for brutal ruling of Algeria, for abandonning in Algeria the algerians fighters who sided with France, politically uncorrect Algeria doesn't not regret the retaliative mass slaughtering of these traitors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harki

Which shows that one can praise Allah to be very misericordious for him, but not for everybody.

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You'r talking about offenses and crimes,
I'm talking about day to day religious prescriptions for peoples which don't commit anything illegal.
You know that observing jews must have a double kitchen equipment,
can't phone nor use electricity during.
As observing jew close neighbours living downstairs had a child wounded, I, an atheistic goy, took my bike and went to the drugstore fetch band-aid for them because the couln't move that far at sabbath time. Isn't it ridiculous to have such strict religious prescriptions that you can't take care of your wounded child ?
That is untrue. Where a life is at stake, Sabbath rules do not apply.
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Christian conservatives are a threat. Name any Christian conservatives who have blown up buildings or posed any threat to any one. Christian conservatives in America like muslims offer cruelty. Some examples, if you please or do you prefer to accuse someones with no examples.
You accuse Christian conservatives of wanting to return to the dark ages. Would you care to give some examples of this or just give blanket accusations without any examples or proof.
You attest Christian conservatives are same as muzlims in their cruelty, I would like some examples of this.
You sure do make a lot of blanket accusations and offer no proof. Is this a habit of yours or is your hate of American Christian conservatives show through this. Jose-in Miami. Are you sure you are not Mahmoud?
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Adam 36 wrote:
That is untrue. Where a life is at stake, Sabbath rules do not apply.
You can't deny what I've told, I lived it.
The little girl for whom I went out to fetch band-aid was not in danger, she had a cut on the face, for her very observing mother, that was not case for breaking sabbath.
The need for band-aid was to avoid that the cut would let a small scar on the child's face.

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Christian conservativethat s are a threat. Name any Christian conservatives who have blown up buildings or posed any threat to any one.
Don't anti-arbortion supporters consider abortionnist surgeons as criminals who deserve death ?

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You can't deny what I've told, I lived it.
The little girl for whom I went out to fetch band-aid was not in danger, she had a cut on the face, for her very observing mother, that was not case for breaking sabbath.
The need for band-aid was to avoid that the cut would let a small scar on the child's face.
Nonsense, especially if the child's face was at risk.
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Hey, Joe de Caro, what peoples did in the past doesn't mean peoples cannot change. Some of me ancestors rode the High Seas, raiding coastlines and uprivers but they finally settled down and became most civilized.
Our fellow earth travelers called muzlims are doing the same things in 2013 they were doing in the 7th century. That's 1300+ years. when are these subhuman species going to become humanized and try to act civilized?
that should bring out the diatribes about all the doings said Christians did during the dark ages, middle ages, Inquisition and what not.
being the word Christian comes from a word meaning Christlike, the socalled Christian Torquemada was NOT Christlike, neither were a lot who passed themselves off as Christians. AS an elephant trumpets and a kangaroo hops because they are made like that, a Christian, not a pseudo one but a REAL Christian, will act and behave like a Christian.
Saying that, having read quran, actually having one within reach at the present, quran teaches death to the infidel. Nowhere in Christ's teachings does HE teach death to anyone. But quran teaches death to the infidel. what is an infidel to a muzlim. An infidel to a muzlim is anyone who doesn't believe like that muzlim. This can even include another muzlim such as sunni, Shiite, Wahhabi, alawite and all the other sects. They kill each other and everyone else.
They kill Hindus and Buddhists as indiscriminately as they do each other and everyone else. They have even defaced a mountain sculpture of Gautama Buddha in Bactria. muzlims are barbarians. No doubt about it. muzlims are definitely jinns. No doubt about it.
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dunadd wrote:
Hey, Joe de Caro, what peoples did in the past doesn't mean peoples cannot change. Some of me ancestors rode the High Seas, raiding coastlines and uprivers but they finally settled down and became most civilized.
Our fellow earth travelers called muzlims are doing the same things in 2013 they were doing in the 7th century. That's 1300+ years. when are these subhuman species going to become humanized and try to act civilized?
that should bring out the diatribes about all the doings said Christians did during the dark ages, middle ages, Inquisition and what not.
being the word Christian comes from a word meaning Christlike, the socalled Christian Torquemada was NOT Christlike, neither were a lot who passed themselves off as Christians. AS an elephant trumpets and a kangaroo hops because they are made like that, a Christian, not a pseudo one but a REAL Christian, will act and behave like a Christian.
Saying that, having read quran, actually having one within reach at the present, quran teaches death to the infidel. Nowhere in Christ's teachings does HE teach death to anyone. But quran teaches death to the infidel. what is an infidel to a muzlim. An infidel to a muzlim is anyone who doesn't believe like that muzlim. This can even include another muzlim such as sunni, Shiite, Wahhabi, alawite and all the other sects. They kill each other and everyone else.
They kill Hindus and Buddhists as indiscriminately as they do each other and everyone else. They have even defaced a mountain sculpture of Gautama Buddha in Bactria. muzlims are barbarians. No doubt about it. muzlims are definitely jinns. No doubt about it.
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dunadd
Can you help me out with Luke 19:27?

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Adam 36 wrote:
Nonsense, especially if the child's face was at risk.
That was just a quarter inch cut on the check-bone, not enough to call the girl scarface.
I must precise that this woman was a converted christian-born married with a rabin, and that having no band-aid home, I decided by my own to go and fetch band-aid, she didn't even asked me to act so. I think, without knowing further sabbath laws, that asking a goy a service during sabbath would have been uncorrect a behaviour.
Last, it was a special transparent band-aid which is used to stick together each side of the cut thus avoid scar.
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DonPanic wrote:
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Yes while politically correct France confessed for brutal ruling of Algeria, for abandonning in Algeria the algerians fighters who sided with France, politically uncorrect Algeria doesn't not regret the retaliative mass slaughtering of these traitors.
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Those who sided with the colonialists against their brothers and sisters were considered traitors.

That's no different from any collaborator with the enemy.
The Harkis betrayed their people and their country.
A million and half of our people died during the Algerian war of independence; many in the hands of Harkis.
Algeria dealt with the Harkis in its own way.

Has France apologised for the many Nazi collaborators who were put to death after WWII?

Don Panic, you seem to harbour many double standards.
You haven't answered yet if the French Resistance were terrorist or not, but you accuse the FLN fighting an invader of being terrorists.
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You can't deny what I've told, I lived it.
The little girl for whom I went out to fetch band-aid was not in danger, she had a cut on the face, for her very observing mother, that was not case for breaking sabbath.
The need for band-aid was to avoid that the cut would let a small scar on the child's face.
You generalise because of ONE incident!
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Yes, I can help you out with Luke 19:27. the entire passage of Luke 19:12-27 is a discourse, parable, of Jesus' about a nobleman, using this parable to show people how rulers of this world treat others. It plainly tells in verse 11 it is a parable. You do know what a parable is, do you not? In verse 10, he says, For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. HE then proceeds in verses 12-27 to let you know how man treats each other.
The words in verse 27, But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me, is the words of the nobleman, not what Jesus preached, practiced and lived. HE is Teaching in a parable how man treats man but nowhere did HE teach or treat anyone like this.
It must needs be when reading scripture one must take it in its entire context, not singularly. Singularly it appears as if Jesus is advocating Luke 19:27 when in reality HE is using this to teach us how Man treats each other which is strictly against HIS teaching.
I hope this helps you in understanding.
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dunadd
P.S. I will have to discourse with you later as I hae to eat and get ready to attend services.
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Following an Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack outside Damascus, the White House declared Syria’s 2-year civil war a top risk to American interests. If the U.S. fails to respond, officials said this week, it could encourage other hostile governments to use or develop weapons of mass destruction without fear of being punished.

It’s a connection that’s not immediately clear to many Americans — especially after the White House refused to send military support earlier in the Syrian war. The recent chemical weapons attack killed 1,429 people, U.S. intelligence officials say. Other estimates are somewhat lower. The wider war has killed more than 100,000.
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Regarding the above, see the following:

Global communities, join Russia and China to support Syria, to target and strike against US and train and practise with more weapons and fighting forces. Get to Strike US first in case, as US wants to strike countries all the time. Work to strike US before it strikes you.

Regarding Syria, The world would have to see that US learns the lessons.
US has broken more International law by saying of chemical weapons.
This world needs no law if it were according to US, so any country can hit any country by pointing at any country.
US by chemical weapons calling, could be rejected in the ramification of International law, because it is not about whether chemical weapons are legal or not,the conducts of mishandling the issue of chemical weapons calling, resulting from is unlawful.
US has used chemical weapons too before and doing bad things against its people.
No such convention of chemical weapons that any country signs to it or not, is the International law upholding against International proceeding or evolvement, by which chemical weapons convention becomes void, or not applicable, according to situations, like the current Syria--in order words, the priority and core basic importance of looking into problem solving or resolve cases take in the major importance handling than pursuing in chemical weapons nature.
The problem solving is not to create add-on enlarging damages to make large disaster and crisis from US striking to Syria, as the comprehensive standpoint pays no regard by rejecting chemical weapons calling. When no such weapons have killed many people, chemical weapons become a controversy, as that is also hard to prove.
Looking into chemical weapon is not the view about Syria but rejected, while the dealing with it in the resolve is the problem solving needed in Syria situations--therefore, there is no such convention of chemical weapons that can be the International law in the Syria case.
US has done many bad things before by pursuing the chemical weapons issue in Iraq by bombing it, by invading and occupying it, by finding none of chemical weapons instead, AS THE RESULT IS generating crisis and making failures time after time, while its acts are all unlawful and breach International law by calling and bombing and searching for chemical weapons.
Any country and others can strike US as well as that is the point--for this world needs no law if it were according to US, any country can point against, and hit any country US ---The Universal law calls for stopping and penalizing unlawful acts of using chemical weapons calling, to do unlawful acts by US.
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<quoted text>Allowing so many Muslims in Europe is in a way going toward a new dark age. Muslims and Africans are a threat to Europe's future.
Africans are a threat to Africa itself. With the possible exception of South Africa; they are hopeless
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