Six Things Straight People Should Sto...

Six Things Straight People Should Stop Saying about Gay People

There are 54 comments on the canyonwalkerconnections.com story from Jul 28, 2013, titled Six Things Straight People Should Stop Saying about Gay People. In it, canyonwalkerconnections.com reports that:

A kind woman, who would never intentionally offend another person, writes: “I love gay people, I just cannot support their gay lifestyle.”

A pastor stands holding an electric cord as a prop and warns the congregation, “Don’t mess with God’s original design. Gay sex is not natural, the parts don’t fit.”

A man thinks he needs to “protect” his family from his Christian gay brother. He says to his brother, “Homosexuality is a perversion and, until you change, I cannot allow you in my home with my children.”

Parents send their lesbian daughter to a program that they heard about at church. The visiting speaker says he is no longer gay. The encouraged parents say, “We want what is best for our daughter and we know she can change her preferences.”

About their fellow Americans, some will say: “I don’t mind gay people having civil unions, I just do not want to redefine marriage. Marriage is not a civil right and they want special rights.”

Thinking they are pleasing and even defending God, moderate Christians assert: “I’m fine with gay people getting together, it’s God and the Bible that are clearly against homosexuality. We love gay people and need to tell them the truth.”

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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#26 Jul 29, 2013
Dexter wrote:
<quoted text>Not two worry, if you don't repent your queerness before you die you will end up in hell just like The Golem, maybe you too can be bunk buddies...I mean butt buddies:)
LMFAO
Lying is a sin, LITTLE liar. How ironic that YOU will go to hell for lying and I will have an ocean view room in Heaven Hotel, with free courtesy bar.

Little chicken liar. Cluck cluck cluck...my name is Dexter the liar chicken, I lay eggs and eat worms and bugs. Cluck cluck cluck.
Realist

Franklin, TN

#27 Jul 29, 2013
I have known some gays in my life and not one, NONE, seemed happy. The saddest part to me is defending it through the Bible. True, God hates the sin, not the sinner. But sin cannot cause happiness- sin is a tool used by Satan to accomplish his work. Satan appeared as a serpent in the Garden Of Eden and caused the first two people God ever created to sin. God gave them paradise and told them not to do one thing and they blew it. If you're gonna choose to be gay please don't bring it to a church, and don't take a sin and try to justify it by twisting God's word. It's not cool people! I often wonder if folks who think it is biblically OK to be gay also believe it is alright to murder, lie, or steal. The bible uses the word "abomination" in describing homosexuality. If you don't know what that word means, google it. Y'all make me laugh, and it's nice to get an early morning chuckle on a Monday. In all seriousness though, God's not laughing. Life is short but eternity is long. Think about it.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#28 Jul 29, 2013
Realist wrote:
I have known some gays in my life and not one, NONE, seemed happy.......
You've been hanging around with the wrong gay crowd.

That said, when you are harassed all through school, tossed of of your family for being gay, banned from your church congregation, evicted from your apartment, fired from your job, accused as a group of pedophilia and perversion by public figures, and denied the right to legally form a family, then ...

....yes, that can make a person a bit grumpy.

But don't blame us for reacting to your bad treatment.

Take away that, and there is no difference.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#29 Jul 29, 2013
[QUOTE who="Realist".. The saddest part to me is defending it through the Bible. True, God hates the sin, not the sinner. But sin cannot cause happiness- sin is a tool used by Satan to accomplish his work. Satan appeared as a serpent in the Garden Of Eden and caused the first two people God ever created to sin. God gave them paradise and told them not to do one thing and they blew it. If you're gonna choose to be gay please don't bring it to a church, and don't take a sin and try to justify it by twisting God's word.......[/QUOTE]

And this sort of drivel is supposed to make gay folks happy? Yes, we know that the creation myth talks about straight people bringing sin into the world, though it seems to me they were set up.

But you can't blame gay folks for the bad choices of Adam and Eve.
syzito

United States

#30 Jul 29, 2013
Love the way the term homosexual was changed to "gay" in order to appear more acceptable to the average American.If you aren't ashamed by being homosexual then why use the term "gay" that has absolutely nothing to do with a person sexual orientation? If you are born that way...who in the hell cares what you are or what you do,but to begin using terms that have nothing to do with your sexual preferences is being deceptive and shows the underhanded mind set of homosexuals. Stand up and just state the fact that you aren't GAY but that you are a Homosexual that prefers members of your own sex to fornicate with.
James_G

Kabul, Afghanistan

#31 Jul 29, 2013
So - what you really want is for people to stop speaking the truth. The sodomite lifestyle is a sin. God designed us, and that gives Him the right to decide what is perverse and what is ok. I have an aunt that after 20 years of so called dedication to being a lesbian with her life partner, came back to her family and told them all, she was never really a lesbian, she was just rebellious. Sodomy is wrong anyway you look at it. Just as driving drunk is, and child porn, and beastiality. They are all wrong, they are all sins, they are all choices, and some would say they are merely an alternate lifestyle. I'm thankful for people that have the courage to tell a sodomite they are not welcome in their home while they practice that lifestyle. I praise God for people that will stand up in the face of this worlds persecution and say God is right, He has the right, and it's our job to follow His rules, not play like we are gods. If you don't believe in God, then you have a lot worse problems then a sinful life style.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#32 Jul 29, 2013
James_G wrote:
So - what you really want is for people to stop speaking the truth. The sodomite lifestyle is a sin. God designed us, and that gives Him the right to decide what is perverse and what is ok. I have an aunt that after 20 years of so called dedication to being a lesbian with her life partner, came back to her family and told them all, she was never really a lesbian, she was just rebellious. Sodomy is wrong anyway you look at it. Just as driving drunk is, and child porn, and beastiality. They are all wrong, they are all sins, they are all choices, and some would say they are merely an alternate lifestyle. I'm thankful for people that have the courage to tell a sodomite they are not welcome in their home while they practice that lifestyle. I praise God for people that will stand up in the face of this worlds persecution and say God is right, He has the right, and it's our job to follow His rules, not play like we are gods. If you don't believe in God, then you have a lot worse problems then a sinful life style.
Or so you believe. In theory you aren't supposed to judge others. I guess you only follow those parts of the Bible that you like.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#33 Jul 29, 2013
James_G wrote:
So - what you really want is for people to stop speaking the truth. The sodomite lifestyle is a sin. God designed us, and that gives Him the right to decide what is perverse and what is ok. I have an aunt that after 20 years of so called dedication to being a lesbian with her life partner, came back to her family and told them all, she was never really a lesbian, she was just rebellious. Sodomy is wrong anyway you look at it. Just as driving drunk is, and child porn, and beastiality. They are all wrong, they are all sins, they are all choices, and some would say they are merely an alternate lifestyle. I'm thankful for people that have the courage to tell a sodomite they are not welcome in their home while they practice that lifestyle. I praise God for people that will stand up in the face of this worlds persecution and say God is right, He has the right, and it's our job to follow His rules, not play like we are gods. If you don't believe in God, then you have a lot worse problems then a sinful life style.
You guys and your broad paint brushes. SO gay life is like child porn or bestiality, which by the way, you spelled wrong, or drunken driving, huh?

Nope. Those all involve a victim. The child or animal or person hurt by the drunk. Adult gays and lesbians are NOT victimizing anyone.

Besides Sodom was from the OLD testament. What are you, some kind of Jewish guy now? Mazel tov!

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#34 Jul 29, 2013
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Or so you believe. In theory you aren't supposed to judge others. I guess you only follow those parts of the Bible that you like.
It takes almost ZERO work to find the sites that give idiotic or weird or contradictory bible verses. I used to quote them them here but got back either stony silence, or "you don't understand the way the bible works!" which means THEY had no idea how to respond for their bible was shown to be faulty or inaccurate. You'd think by NOW someone would have gotten in there and cleaned that book up by now!

They treat the bible the way they treat that horrible Home Town Buffet which is an all you can stuff down restaurant on the west coast. I used to walk by the one in Long Beach and the site of single huge men sitting at tables GROANING under empty plates was highly disturbing and sad. It closed down a couple of years ago.

Our bible friends remind me of those poor sad fatsos. Alone, shoving down empty calories to fill some gaping hole in their psyche, only choosing fried chicken or macaroni and cheese or ice cream, and ignoring things they don't like or understand like liver and onions or vegetables or iced tea instead of sugary cokes.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#35 Jul 29, 2013
syzito wrote:
Love the way the term homosexual was changed to "gay" in order to appear more acceptable to the average American.
Dear, you evidently don't know the etymology of this particular use of the word gay. It was originally used as an insult against us, we simply adopted it for ourselves to take the intended sting out of it.
syzito wrote:
If you aren't ashamed by being homosexual then why use the term "gay" that has absolutely nothing to do with a person sexual orientation?
Your problems with folk calling themselves gay, nobody's problem but your own. Sorry.
syzito wrote:
If you are born that way...who in the hell cares what you are or what you do,but to begin using terms that have nothing to do with your sexual preferences is being deceptive and shows the underhanded mind set of homosexuals.
Wow sweetie, you might want to take that particular issue with us up with a qualified mental health professional, not us.
syzito wrote:
Stand up and just state the fact that you aren't GAY but that you are a Homosexual that prefers members of your own sex to fornicate with.
I am a homosexual and you are an idiot.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#36 Jul 29, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>It takes almost ZERO work to find the sites that give idiotic or weird or contradictory bible verses. I used to quote them them here but got back either stony silence, or "you don't understand the way the bible works!" which means THEY had no idea how to respond for their bible was shown to be faulty or inaccurate. You'd think by NOW someone would have gotten in there and cleaned that book up by now!
They treat the bible the way they treat that horrible Home Town Buffet which is an all you can stuff down restaurant on the west coast. I used to walk by the one in Long Beach and the site of single huge men sitting at tables GROANING under empty plates was highly disturbing and sad. It closed down a couple of years ago.
Our bible friends remind me of those poor sad fatsos. Alone, shoving down empty calories to fill some gaping hole in their psyche, only choosing fried chicken or macaroni and cheese or ice cream, and ignoring things they don't like or understand like liver and onions or vegetables or iced tea instead of sugary cokes.
It's the copy and paste society. They are the same one's who post NOM, Focus on the Family, or Family Research Council talking points on every same sex marriage forum, but lack the intelligence to rationally defend them.

It's scarry in America, because we teach people how to read, but we don't teach logic or critical thinking. Many of the most weak minded get their news form only one source, and lack the ability to contrast opposing sources and find the truth. What is worse, the media has made it so that one can tailor their news to what they would like to hear as it has slowly converted from actual news, which we haven't seen for 30 years, to edutainment, which is composed mostly of opinion.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#37 Jul 29, 2013
James_G wrote:
So - what you really want is for people to stop speaking the truth.
Sweetie, your version of the truth, not the only one out there.
James_G wrote:
The sodomite lifestyle is a sin.
You do realize dear that under the original meaning of "sodomy", you have likely committed it too, don't you?
James_G wrote:
God designed us, and that gives Him the right to decide what is perverse and what is ok.
Many believe He created us to be "gay", just because you don't, not our problem.
James_G wrote:
I have an aunt that after 20 years of so called dedication to being a lesbian with her life partner, came back to her family and told them all, she was never really a lesbian, she was just rebellious.
Suuuuuure she did hon, we believe every word. So much for that commandment about bearing false witness, I love it when good Christians don't let God stand in the way of their beliefs and actions.
James_G wrote:
Sodomy is wrong anyway you look at it.
Then why have YOU committed it? You really should look up the meaning of words you toss around.
James_G wrote:
Just as driving drunk is, and child porn, and beastiality. They are all wrong, they are all sins, they are all choices, and some would say they are merely an alternate lifestyle. I'm thankful for people that have the courage to tell a sodomite they are not welcome in their home while they practice that lifestyle. I praise God for people that will stand up in the face of this worlds persecution and say God is right, He has the right, and it's our job to follow His rules, not play like we are gods. If you don't believe in God, then you have a lot worse problems then a sinful life style.
Jesus save us from some of your Christians. I realize that they aren't your fault and came to you this crazy, but they do blame you for the results. Amen
david traversa

Argentina

#38 Jul 29, 2013
No matter how you juggle the words it always comes out the same : the ignorant pronouncements of ignorant people . This " God's design " crap is the funniest of all ..

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#39 Jul 29, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Not to worry; hon....Misery loves company
The Fundamentalist Agenda By Davidson Loehr
http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html
"The Fundamentalist Agenda is absolutely natural, ancient, and powerful—but the liberal impulse makes us humane.
The most famous definition of fundamentalism is H. L. Mencken's: a terrible, pervasive fear that someone, somewhere, is having fun. There's something to this. Fundamentalism is too fearful, too restrictive, too lacking in faith to provide a home for the human spirit to soar or for human societies to blossom.
But there are far more fundamental things to understand about fundamentalism, especially in this age of terrorism. An adequate understanding also includes some inescapable and uncomfortable critiques of America's cultural liberalism of the last four decades. The attacks on September 11, 2001, provided us a rare revelation about fundamentalism that arrived in two installments.
First, we became vividly aware of the things some Muslim fundamentalists hate about our culture:
They hate liberated women and all that symbolizes them. They hate it when women compete with men in the workplace, when they decide when or whether they will bear children, when they show the independence of getting abortions. They hate changes in laws that previously gave men more power over women.
They hate the wide range of sexual orientations and lifestyles that have always characterized human societies. They hate homosexuality.
They hate individual freedoms that allow people to stray from the rigid sort of truth they want to constrain all people. They hate individual rights that let others slough off their simple certainties.
Not much was really new in this installment of the revelation. We had seen all this before, when Khomeini's Muslim fundamentalists wreaked such havoc in Iran starting in 1979. We have long known that Muslim fundamentalism is a mortal enemy of freedom and democracy.
The surprise second installment came just a few days after 9 / 11 in that remarkably unguarded interview on The 700 Club when the Rev. Jerry Falwell told Pat Robertson,“I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way—all of them who have tried to secularize America—I point the finger in their face and say,'You helped this happen.'” These men are so media-savvy it's amazing they would say such things on the air. But it's also remarkable because in their list of “causes” of the 9 / 11 attacks, we heard almost exactly the same hate list:
They hate liberated women who don't follow orders, who get abortions when they want them, who threaten or laugh at some men's arrogant pretensions to rule them.
They hate the wide range of sexual orientations that have always characterized human societies. They would force the country to conform to a fantasy image of two married heterosexual parents where the husband works and the wife stays home with the children—even when that describes fewer than 25 percent of current American families.
They hate individual freedoms that let people stray from the one simple set of truths they want imposed on all in our country. Robertson has been on record for a long time saying that democracy isn't a fit form of government unless it is run by his kind of fundamentalist Christians.
Together, the two installments make vivid the fact that “our” Christian fundamentalists have the same hate list as “their” Muslim fundamentalists.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#40 Jul 29, 2013
Realist wrote:
I have known some gays in my life and not one, NONE, seemed happy. The saddest part to me is defending it through the Bible. True, God hates the sin, not the sinner. But sin cannot cause happiness- sin is a tool used by Satan to accomplish his work. Satan appeared as a serpent in the Garden Of Eden and caused the first two people God ever created to sin. God gave them paradise and told them not to do one thing and they blew it. If you're gonna choose to be gay please don't bring it to a church, and don't take a sin and try to justify it by twisting God's word. It's not cool people! I often wonder if folks who think it is biblically OK to be gay also believe it is alright to murder, lie, or steal. The bible uses the word "abomination" in describing homosexuality. If you don't know what that word means, google it. Y'all make me laugh, and it's nice to get an early morning chuckle on a Monday. In all seriousness though, God's not laughing. Life is short but eternity is long. Think about it.
I pity you.
To paraphrase the words of Hulk Hogan "whatcha gonna do when Judge -O -mania runs wild on you?”

Matthew 25:31-46
The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right,‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply,‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left,‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply,‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Good luck finding your "get out of hell free card" on Judgement day.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#41 Jul 29, 2013
syzito wrote:
Love the way the term homosexual was changed to "gay" in order to appear more acceptable to the average American.If you aren't ashamed by being homosexual then why use the term "gay" that has absolutely nothing to do with a person sexual orientation? If you are born that way...who in the hell cares what you are or what you do,but to begin using terms that have nothing to do with your sexual preferences is being deceptive and shows the underhanded mind set of homosexuals. Stand up and just state the fact that you aren't GAY but that you are a Homosexual that prefers members of your own sex to fornicate with.
It's derived from the dutch word "ghey", slang for a randy sailor. It's been in use as long as the word homosexual has been. Many words are code words depending on the group. In the military it was common for gay men to refer to themselves as 'friends of Dorothy'.

AA's put "Friend of Bill W" bumper stickers on their cars yet I don't see you whining about have they have changed the word friend to mean "I'm a drunk". Do you complain about the fish symbol Christians put on their cars and not the cross?

You asked, "who in the hell cares what you are or what you do," then turn around and make a statement that you do care.

Pick a lane girlfriend.

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#42 Jul 29, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>It's derived from the dutch word "ghey", slang for a randy sailor. It's been in use as long as the word homosexual has been. Many words are code words depending on the group. In the military it was common for gay men to refer to themselves as 'friends of Dorothy'.
AA's put "Friend of Bill W" bumper stickers on their cars yet I don't see you whining about have they have changed the word friend to mean "I'm a drunk". Do you complain about the fish symbol Christians put on their cars and not the cross?
You asked, "who in the hell cares what you are or what you do," then turn around and make a statement that you do care.
Pick a lane girlfriend.
My dad used to always call gay people "DEMOCRATS !"

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#43 Jul 29, 2013
James_G wrote:
So - what you really want is for people to stop speaking the truth. The sodomite lifestyle is a sin. God designed us, and that gives Him the right to decide what is perverse and what is ok. I have an aunt that after 20 years of so called dedication to being a lesbian with her life partner, came back to her family and told them all, she was never really a lesbian, she was just rebellious. Sodomy is wrong anyway you look at it. Just as driving drunk is, and child porn, and beastiality. They are all wrong, they are all sins, they are all choices, and some would say they are merely an alternate lifestyle. I'm thankful for people that have the courage to tell a sodomite they are not welcome in their home while they practice that lifestyle. I praise God for people that will stand up in the face of this worlds persecution and say God is right, He has the right, and it's our job to follow His rules, not play like we are gods. If you don't believe in God, then you have a lot worse problems then a sinful life style.
NOPE What we want is to be able to have the same religious freedoms you enjoy and not have you shove your lifestyle down our throats.

I'm a gay christian. Get over it.

If you had studied those passages as much and as long as I have with as many Biblical scholars as I have, you'd know that in every cases the homosexual acts mentioned in the Bible are all referring to pagan practices.

The Bible does NOT condemn people for being homosexual or lesbians or for acting on that attraction.

Love how folks like you whine about how the meaning of the word gay happened but you ignore your own corruption of the words sodomite (a person from Sodom) and the word faggot (a bundle of sticks)

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#46 Jul 30, 2013
Ellis wrote:
(nothing worth repeating)
Buttercup, if it sickens you so, why do you keep fantasizing about it? No one had even mentioned the idea here until YOU "thought" about it. You have got to be the weirdest masochist I have ever encountered. You might want to seek out therapy for the serious problem that you are obviously suffering from.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#48 Jul 30, 2013
Ellis wrote:
<quoted text>You bundles of sticks sicken me, I'm repulsed at the thought of too dudes doing each other up the butt!!!
Yet you can't mention it enough. I'm sure this is about the 5th time I have seen you slobbering over it. What do you get out of that fantasy that no one else does?

Your complaints are ringing specious.

PS, stop LYING, LITTLE liar. Pick one name and register, you cowardly little liar.

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