Russian Man 'Raped With Beer Bottles,...

Russian Man 'Raped With Beer Bottles,' Tortured To Death For Being Gay

There are 68 comments on the The Huffington Post story from May 12, 2013, titled Russian Man 'Raped With Beer Bottles,' Tortured To Death For Being Gay. In it, The Huffington Post reports that:

A 23-year-old man has been tortured to death in Russia in an apparent homophobic attack, investigators said Sunday, amid growing fears by rights groups that anti-gay sentiments are on the rise in the country.

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“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#32 May 13, 2013
chippy da boss wrote:
That's so sad i totally condemn homosexuality but this is too far fetched.
There is no such thing as "too far fetched" when you think you can "condemn" how others live. Your attitude helped this happen. Do you think these thugs acted up because they hear people talking about tolerance, diversity and inclusion? No, it's because they hear people talking about "condemning" one another, and they think that this is what is wanted.

I totally condemn your condemnation of personal freedom. Yet, you will probably go through your life with no fear of anything like this happening to you. Congratulations on your safe superiority.
wamalamabangbang

Hertford, UK

#33 May 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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There is no such thing as "too far fetched" when you think you can "condemn" how others live. Your attitude helped this happen. Do you think these thugs acted up because they hear people talking about tolerance, diversity and inclusion? No, it's because they hear people talking about "condemning" one another, and they think that this is what is wanted.
I totally condemn your condemnation of personal freedom. Yet, you will probably go through your life with no fear of anything like this happening to you. Congratulations on your safe superiority.
How is it my fault i dont go around shouting it out i keep it to my self i respect people desicions even if i dont agree.
Brian

Attleboro, MA

#34 May 13, 2013
It appears his heterosexual buddies are probably more homo than he was. After all, they raped him with beer bottles.

Funny how the ones so opposed to homosexual are the ones who act out homosexual acts.

I'm convinced all people have homosexual tendencies in them.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#35 May 13, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
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What I`m saying is the truth gay activists are agressively demand to change people their religions and beliefs. That`s why you agressively attack Russian orthodoxal church and it`s patriarch. The patriach did not kill or torture gays he simply says what he must say being a priest. It happened so that homosexuaity is a sin in christianity and this is what you agressively demand to change.
This is a false assersion of yours that church is not seperated from the sate in Russia. On my opinion Russia is more secular country than USA. Well, what I`m sure of, Russian society is much less influenced by church than American one. Because not so long ago nearly all of Russian people were atheists.
You cannot demand tolerence because this is my personal choice to be or not to be tolerence towards gays. Anydoby has a right for his personal dislikes. Homosexuality is not a crime in Russia, so no one can say that homosexuals are prosecuted by government. The law aginst gay propoganda has nothining to do with prosecution for being gay. If homosexualism is not a crime, it doesn`t mean that itis useful for society.
First, "-ism" refers to an ideology or practice, not an orientation or identity.

Orthodoxy certainly teaches about "sin", as is it's proper sphere, but it also seeks to codify such views into laws which impose such views on others, denying to them their freedom to believe and live differently.

What you call "law aginst gay propaganda" intends to do two things. One of them is salutary, the other politically repressive.

The first stated rationale is to protect youth from being lured into predatory situations, such as prostitution and pornography. But heterosexual forms of these exist as well, and I don't see any laws against "heterosexualism propaganda". A second rationale was proposed, too. This was to prevent youth from becoming homosexual. There is a problem with this. Science has shown that heteros cannot become gay. Bisexuals can go either way, but identity is not merely a behavior, or set of behaviors. There is a great difference between a "homosexual" act, and one's innate identity. This may be temporarily confused, but it is immutable.

The second, covert and effective, intention is to eliminate gay access to the political process. It eliminates the possibility that gay people may even bring up their issues for discussion. This is political repression. A favorite Chekist ploy.

The goal of gay involvement in the political process is to bring about an end to the persecutions and deaths of our people, and to promote inclusion of diversity.

For centuries, the Rus have been under the mental and physical heels of one oppressor or another. All demanded abject obedience and conformity. it is completely institutionalized into your every structure and even into your unconscious expectations and comfort zones. You find cage bars to be secure and comforting. Even the domes of your churches are nothing but the uncircumcised penises of your Mongol and Tatar overlords of times past.

The poor Rus have lived under a Caesaropapism for centuries, and have come to believe that the chains of bondage are jewelry, just because someone covered them in gold and pretty paintings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesaropapism

My issues with Vladimir Mikhailovich are far more complex than you have suggested, and extend far beyond gay social concerns.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#36 May 13, 2013
wamalamabangbang wrote:
How is it my fault i dont go around shouting it out i keep it to my self i respect people desicions even if i dont agree.
You just said it here online, that counts as "shouting it out". Someone heard you, and now they think they have one more person who agrees with them, and they may take action based on that support.

What is it that you don't "agree" with? If you don't think that homosexuality is for you, fine. No one will force you to be gay. But do you "agree" that it's ok to slander and smear gay people, and call them "wrong" and that they should be "condemned"? Is that how people should have to live? What do you think will happen when you say things like that about people who aren't harming you?
wamalamabangbang

Hertford, UK

#37 May 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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You just said it here online, that counts as "shouting it out". Someone heard you, and now they think they have one more person who agrees with them, and they may take action based on that support.
What is it that you don't "agree" with? If you don't think that homosexuality is for you, fine. No one will force you to be gay. But do you "agree" that it's ok to slander and smear gay people, and call them "wrong" and that they should be "condemned"? Is that how people should have to live? What do you think will happen when you say things like that about people who aren't harming you?
Fair enough but dont mean people need to do everything i do. Everyone has a brain they need to think for themselves, if thats what they're are doing then i suggest they go and get some common sense honestly. And btw shouting is a loud cry so tharts not shouting. no I dont think it's ok to slander homos just like I wouldnt want people throwing insults at me for being a muslim and a mixed race half pashtun and half white, i hate it when people call me a taliban or a limey . I'm totally against racism and homophobia, but like I said people can have opinions but they should keep these to themselves and none has the right to harm anyone based on pure hatred.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#39 May 13, 2013
wamalamabangbang wrote:
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Fair enough but dont mean people need to do everything i do. Everyone has a brain they need to think for themselves, if thats what they're are doing then i suggest they go and get some common sense honestly. And btw shouting is a loud cry so tharts not shouting. no I dont think it's ok to slander homos just like I wouldnt want people throwing insults at me for being a muslim and a mixed race half pashtun and half white, i hate it when people call me a taliban or a limey . I'm totally against racism and homophobia, but like I said people can have opinions but they should keep these to themselves and none has the right to harm anyone based on pure hatred.
"people can have opinions but they should keep these to themselves" ???!!!

In THIS country WE HAVE the FIRST AMENDMENT which INCLUDES the FREEDOM OF SPEECH ! We can shout our OPINIONS from the rooftops as loud as we want !

You are apparently another example of a Muslim that does NOT support the BASIC FREEDOMS OF MANKIND ! You are an EVIL man !

ANYONE who does NOT support freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion IS an EVIL person !
Brian

Attleboro, MA

#40 May 13, 2013
"You cannot demand tolerence because this is my personal choice to be or not to be tolerence towards gays. Anydoby has a right for his personal dislikes."

If I can be intolerant of Christians, muslims, blacks, Chinese, Eskimos, Latinos, etc, then I should be able to I guess is what your saying. Only difference with me is I don't go around beating those I wouldn't tolerate, like those who tortured that gay guy.

Seems to me that you are promoting an intolerant society. How smart is that?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#41 May 13, 2013
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey old man, what's going on? Looks like you have your hands full.
I'm glad you had the courage to come back despite the trouncing you took earlier. Ignore the apes, they throw their poop, but everyone dodges and they are left with smelly hands.
Brian

Attleboro, MA

#42 May 13, 2013
Justin wrote:
In America we are being forced to not only accept homosexual perversion but to celebrate and applaud it. Those who do not reach out and offer all they can give to homosexuals are labeled as bigots.
Just a couple of weeks ago President Obama commended a basketball player for simply stating he was gay. WTF?
In news a little while back a toddler cried because he was told he couldn't have husband. A toddler?
You are a very confused person, you should seek professional help rather than be on here.
wamalamabangbang

Hertford, UK

#43 May 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
"people can have opinions but they should keep these to themselves" ???!!!
In THIS country WE HAVE the FIRST AMENDMENT which INCLUDES the FREEDOM OF SPEECH ! We can shout our OPINIONS from the rooftops as loud as we want !
You are apparently another example of a Muslim that does NOT support the BASIC FREEDOMS OF MANKIND ! You are an EVIL man !
ANYONE who does NOT support freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion IS an EVIL person !
what i've done nothing but support ya people and now ya start insulting me. ya too qick to judge aint ya I suggest you go and sort ya sick and twisted stereotipal brain out before judging me. Your the EVIL one jumping to conclusions without a second thought not giving me a chance a right to an opinio like ya said freedom of speech ya evil basterd.
wamalamabangbang

Hertford, UK

#46 May 13, 2013
OMG what is this the attack of the gays LOL

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47 May 13, 2013
wamalamabangbang wrote:
<quoted text>
what i've done nothing but support ya people and now ya start insulting me. ya too qick to judge aint ya I suggest you go and sort ya sick and twisted stereotipal brain out before judging me. Your the EVIL one jumping to conclusions without a second thought not giving me a chance a right to an opinio like ya said freedom of speech ya evil basterd.
Don't pay too much attention to "Foxy". He is like a spoiled pet who keeps pee-ing on the carpet.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#48 May 13, 2013
wamalamabangbang wrote:
Fair enough but dont mean people need to do everything i do. Everyone has a brain they need to think for themselves, if thats what they're are doing then i suggest they go and get some common sense honestly.
A person with a brain, who can think for themselves, can come to the conclusion that gay people don't harm anyone, they're consenting adults, and so they should not be "condemned".

A person with a brain should be able to see what will happen when they say that they "condemn" someone.

Save your "condemning" for someone who DESERVES it, not for innocent citizens who are only trying to make happy lives for themselves. WHY would your god "condemn" these people, and why would you agree with it?
wamalamabangbang wrote:
And btw shouting is a loud cry so tharts not shouting.
I don't care what your volume is. There is no volume in text. The fact that you say it AT ALL is bad enough. If ONE person hears you, then you're too loud.
wamalamabangbang wrote:
no I dont think it's ok to slander homos just like I wouldnt want people throwing insults at me for being a muslim and a mixed race half pashtun and half white, i hate it when people call me a taliban or a limey.
I wouldn't want to see anyone insult you for those reasons, either. Is it ok if they just "condemn" you?
wamalamabangbang wrote:
I'm totally against racism and homophobia, but like I said people can have opinions but they should keep these to themselves and none has the right to harm anyone based on pure hatred.
But what do you think CAUSES that hatred? It's caused by books like the Quran and the Bible, which say that gay people should be KILLED. Is it really a big surprise to see people out there doing that?

Everyone can express their opinions, we should all have that right, but people should be expected to SUPPORT their opinions with logic and reason, too. Hatred and insults should be saved for those who cause HARM. Hate those who steal from you, or who cause you bodily injury. Even GODS should instruct this, if they're worth anything. Gods and religions should NOT be giving commands to KILL gay people. There is no logic or reason for making social outlaws of people who are not vicious criminals. Gods that couldn't figure that out are phony figments of imagination. Gods that couldn't foresee the bloodthirsty results of their commands are incompetent. Humans who say that homosexuals are free to live their lives without violence, but that they still "condemn" them, are hypocrites making excuses for this barbarism.
The Troll Stopper

Blacksburg, VA

#49 May 13, 2013
The Iron Dick wrote:
link to pornography
Reported for TOS violations.
wamalamabangbang

Hertford, UK

#51 May 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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A person with a brain, who can think for themselves, can come to the conclusion that gay people don't harm anyone, they're consenting adults, and so they should not be "condemned".
I didnt mean for it to come out that way whta i meant was its not for me but its ok if its ya thing im sorry if i insulted ya.
A person with a brain should be able to see what will happen when they say that they "condemn" someone.
Save your "condemning" for someone who DESERVES it, not for innocent citizens who are only trying to make happy lives for themselves. WHY would your god "condemn" these people, and why would you agree with it?
I dont know that's how i was brought up its not my fault. I dont agree with homophobia after all homos have'nt done anything to harm anyone why should they be treated with such hatred.
<quoted text>
I don't care what your volume is. There is no volume in text. The fact that you say it AT ALL is bad enough. If ONE person hears you, then you're too loud.
<quoted text>
I wouldn't want to see anyone insult you for those reasons, either. Is it ok if they just "condemn" you?
No of course not but they have opinions i dont care what they think aslong as they keep it to themselves.
<quoted text>
But what do you think CAUSES that hatred? It's caused by books like the Quran and the Bible, which say that gay people should be KILLED. Is it really a big surprise to see people out there doing that?
Everyone can express their opinions, we should all have that right, but people should be expected to SUPPORT their opinions with logic and reason, too. Hatred and insults should be saved for those who cause HARM. Hate those who steal from you, or who cause you bodily injury. Even GODS should instruct this, if they're worth anything. Gods and religions should NOT be giving commands to KILL gay people. There is no logic or reason for making social outlaws of people who are not vicious criminals. Gods that couldn't figure that out are phony figments of imagination. Gods that couldn't foresee the bloodthirsty results of their commands are incompetent. Humans who say that homosexuals are free to live their lives without violence, but that they still "condemn" them, are hypocrites making excuses for this barbarism.
Please don't disrespect my religion I respect you and other homos but i find you stereotypical and hypocritical when you insult my religion. i mean there are some really bad muslim extremist pr*cks out there but they are'nt true muslims, a true muslim is someone who always has peace in mind and respects others no mattter what that's what GOD said to repect others belief, dont believe what ya hear from the media about us it's all false cr*p. I respect you so long as yall respect me. MAKE PEACE NOT WAR.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#52 May 13, 2013
wamalamabangbang wrote:
<quoted text>
Please don't disrespect my religion I respect you and other homos but i find you stereotypical and hypocritical when you insult my religion. i mean there are some really bad muslim extremist pr*cks out there but they are'nt true muslims, a true muslim is someone who always has peace in mind and respects others no mattter what that's what GOD said to repect others belief, dont believe what ya hear from the media about us it's all false cr*p. I respect you so long as yall respect me. MAKE PEACE NOT WAR.
Those Muslims just don't believe in FREEDOM OF SPEECH or FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
Boris

Moscow, Russia

#53 May 13, 2013
Brendan Has A Mangina wrote:
ROFLMFAO!!!
LOL!!!
Boris

Moscow, Russia

#54 May 13, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Ignore the apes, they throw their poop, but everyone dodges and they are left with smelly hands.
You don't dodge, you open your mouth up as wide as you can.

Ready? Here comes your din din!
Boris

Moscow, Russia

#55 May 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
A person with a brain, who can think for themselves, can come to the conclusion that gay people don't harm anyone, they're consenting adults, and so they should not be "condemned".
A person with a brain should be able to see what will happen when they say that they "condemn" someone.
Save your "condemning" for someone who DESERVES it, not for innocent citizens who are only trying to make happy lives for themselves. WHY would your god "condemn" these people, and why would you agree with it?
<quoted text>
I don't care what your volume is. There is no volume in text. The fact that you say it AT ALL is bad enough. If ONE person hears you, then you're too loud.
<quoted text>
I wouldn't want to see anyone insult you for those reasons, either. Is it ok if they just "condemn" you?
<quoted text>
But what do you think CAUSES that hatred? It's caused by books like the Quran and the Bible, which say that gay people should be KILLED. Is it really a big surprise to see people out there doing that?
Everyone can express their opinions, we should all have that right, but people should be expected to SUPPORT their opinions with logic and reason, too. Hatred and insults should be saved for those who cause HARM. Hate those who steal from you, or who cause you bodily injury. Even GODS should instruct this, if they're worth anything. Gods and religions should NOT be giving commands to KILL gay people. There is no logic or reason for making social outlaws of people who are not vicious criminals. Gods that couldn't figure that out are phony figments of imagination. Gods that couldn't foresee the bloodthirsty results of their commands are incompetent. Humans who say that homosexuals are free to live their lives without violence, but that they still "condemn" them, are hypocrites making excuses for this barbarism.
A person with a brain should know better than to stick his pen!s up another man's butt.

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