Andrew Sullivan Slams HRCa s Solmones...

Andrew Sullivan Slams HRCa s Solmonese, calls for his resignation (Video)

There are 12 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Oct 13, 2009, titled Andrew Sullivan Slams HRCa s Solmonese, calls for his resignation (Video). In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

Speaking from the Equality to End HIV/AIDS Rally and Vigil held this past Saturday evening in Washington DC, gay columnist Andrew Sullivan slammed Joe Solmonese and called for the President of the Human Rights Campaign to resign.

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ronald

Flushing, NY

#1 Oct 13, 2009
It is understandable that the HRC has a more 'mainstreamed' approach to politics and the Gay Movement, however the organization should had partnered-up with the Gay Civil Rights on Washington. Their initial decision not to endorse the protest nor to throw their full support into the effort of one of the most important events of the decade demonstrated a poor sense of what is going on with the general Gay population. This splinter mentality is exactly what the bigots look and prey upon. So what if the masses did not come. But, as always, the masses did stream into DC in order to demand not just fundamental rights, but full rights that every American citizen is entitled to.

The HRC and all other Gay organizations need to come together for the greater good of the Gay community. This was achieved this past weekend as the images of so many supporters of Gay Civil Rights was reflected throughout the world.

This successful protest was the perfect platform for all organizations, leaders and the general population to engage under one roof.
Robert

San Pablo, CA

#3 Oct 13, 2009
Well said Andrew, well said.
Not another dime to the HRC until Solmonese is gone.
Jeff

Edmonds, WA

#4 Oct 13, 2009
Will agree with Ronald and it is interesting that so many either do not remember or have forgotten what got the civil rights movement going and in fact got it passed through the white house. Blood, sweat, tears and prayer (oh oh I forgot that religion for many does not play a part in gay rights!) made this successful with various groups coming together. They did not all see eye to eye but had the greater vision in place.

We live in a day and time when people are used to most things being easy and automatic like txting. The real issue is will we in the gay community lay down our differences and come together or will we continue to bitch and moan and through tantrums when we do not get our way. I will agree with Andrew that it is sad that most people did not go to the AIDS vigil but instead wanted to see Lady GaGa. But this sadly reveals the depth of commitment that many in the movement have because instant pleasure it what it is all about. Oh yes one has to be fierce and look fabulous to get real legislation passed in the US.

Since: Sep 07

San Francisco, CA

#5 Oct 13, 2009
ok i got 3 min into it and had to turn it off ... i try to listen to Sullivan and every time i do i can not take his anger ... he is just a see a bitter old positive angry queen that thinks he is owed something and he is just angry at everyone and everything! UGH! when is he going to resign!
Robert

San Pablo, CA

#6 Oct 13, 2009
guyinsfca wrote:
ok i got 3 min into it and had to turn it off ... i try to listen to Sullivan and every time i do i can not take his anger ... he is just a see a bitter old positive angry queen that thinks he is owed something and he is just angry at everyone and everything! UGH! when is he going to resign!
I think it's quite obvious who the bitter one is guy, and it's not Andrew.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#8 Oct 13, 2009
While I don't necessarily agree with HRC, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? If Sullivan is so activist, why is he in bed with conservatives and the Church?

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#9 Oct 13, 2009
I'm not always in agreement with HRC and its policies. I think to much money is "not wisely" spent with HRC. Still HRC does and has done great things for our LGBT Community.

Andrew Sullivan is someone I also like, but also think that he is far more talk than action. Still, like HRC, he too has done much to move our LGBT movement forward. Because he is a conservative, he has helped that block see their way back to the days of Bill Buckley and other true conservatives who believe that Government has no place in the bedroom.

Was the march this weekend productive? I honestly can not say at this time. There is not enough evidence either way.

I can say that Barney Frank spoke a truth. The NRA is THE LARGEST MOST EFFECTIVE lobbying group in this nation. They make the AARP look like newborns and the AARP is a force to be dealt with.

The NRA has never had a march - never had a sit in - never interupted anyone elses events. HOW IS THE NRA THAT SUCCESSFUL??

They get off their butts, every single one of them, and call and write and visit their Congresspeople, Senators and the White House and every one of their elected officials. They don't do this once or twice, they do this CONSTANTLY.

So their they are walking around Presidential speaking gigs with semi-automatics while we are having a march and making speeches complaining about our lack of rights.

THE LGBT COMMUNITY MUST PUT THEIR MOUTHS TO ACTION AND CALL AND WRITE AND MEET WITH CONGRESS, THE SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE - if we are to get the rights that we, AS CITIZENS, deserve!

So get off your butts and DO something!

Eric
(and I hate the NRA but I admire effective work).

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Oct 13, 2009
Apart from HRC's involvement of lack thereof in the march, on which I agree with Barney Frank that the NRA's tactics demonstrate how to be effective - I see little evidence that Solmonese has ever been terribly effective at HRC. It's okay to replace him if a better candidate can be found; it's not like there has to be one royal screw up or incident to make a change.

I don't know what he did or didn't do at the ACLU.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#13 Oct 13, 2009
gemelk wrote:
I'm not always in agreement with HRC and its policies. I think to much money is "not wisely" spent with HRC. Still HRC does and has done great things for our LGBT Community.
Andrew Sullivan is someone I also like, but also think that he is far more talk than action. Still, like HRC, he too has done much to move our LGBT movement forward. Because he is a conservative, he has helped that block see their way back to the days of Bill Buckley and other true conservatives who believe that Government has no place in the bedroom.
Was the march this weekend productive? I honestly can not say at this time. There is not enough evidence either way.
I can say that Barney Frank spoke a truth. The NRA is THE LARGEST MOST EFFECTIVE lobbying group in this nation. They make the AARP look like newborns and the AARP is a force to be dealt with.
The NRA has never had a march - never had a sit in - never interupted anyone elses events. HOW IS THE NRA THAT SUCCESSFUL??
They get off their butts, every single one of them, and call and write and visit their Congresspeople, Senators and the White House and every one of their elected officials. They don't do this once or twice, they do this CONSTANTLY.
So their they are walking around Presidential speaking gigs with semi-automatics while we are having a march and making speeches complaining about our lack of rights.
THE LGBT COMMUNITY MUST PUT THEIR MOUTHS TO ACTION AND CALL AND WRITE AND MEET WITH CONGRESS, THE SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE - if we are to get the rights that we, AS CITIZENS, deserve!
So get off your butts and DO something!
Eric
(and I hate the NRA but I admire effective work).
excellent post
michael

Marquette, MI

#19 Oct 18, 2009
the Gay community is so fractured and splintered into rival media hogs, over inflated personalities, personal agenda's that we can never unite on any issue of any importance.

Can't we all just get along and present a common front to those that hate us ? And stop arguing over tactics but do every tactic that is available to us, and hope one of them works. This is war we have the right of self defense. But we should stop arguing amongst ourselves and instead take action, any and all actions in our self defense.

Since: May 08

Beggs, OK

#20 Oct 18, 2009
michael wrote:
the Gay community is so fractured and splintered into rival media hogs, over inflated personalities, personal agenda's that we can never unite on any issue of any importance.
Can't we all just get along and present a common front to those that hate us ? And stop arguing over tactics but do every tactic that is available to us, and hope one of them works. This is war we have the right of self defense. But we should stop arguing amongst ourselves and instead take action, any and all actions in our self defense.
WTF?????

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#21 Oct 18, 2009
michael wrote:
the Gay community is so fractured and splintered into rival media hogs, over inflated personalities, personal agenda's that we can never unite on any issue of any importance.
Can't we all just get along and present a common front to those that hate us ? And stop arguing over tactics but do every tactic that is available to us, and hope one of them works. This is war we have the right of self defense. But we should stop arguing amongst ourselves and instead take action, any and all actions in our self defense.
Our diversity is not a weakness, it is our single greatest asset and strength.

Those voices within that disagree, that take us to task do not harm us, they force us to stay TRUE to our aims, our goals and our collective mission. They force us to acknowledge the minority we are and the minority views inside us. For when we stop listening, we become the hetero haters who seek our subjugation.

I don't always agree with Andrew Sullivan. I stand by what I said of him in my prior posts. In this instance, he is on to something and people should listen.

That is the thing you really should be asking us to do, TO LISTEN.

The LGBT community is the ultimate cross-section of humankind on this planet. We must LISTEN to each other and those needs. Not only for ourselves so that we don't become tyrants, but so that we can show the rest of the world, how it's done.

Eric

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