Christian Father Sues to Keep Kids F...

Christian Father Sues to Keep Kids From Learning About Sex and Sexuality but He's Not a Bigot

There are 320 comments on the www.womanist-musings.com story from Sep 10, 2012, titled Christian Father Sues to Keep Kids From Learning About Sex and Sexuality but He's Not a Bigot. In it, www.womanist-musings.com reports that:

Steve Tourloukis, a parent whose kids attend school in the Hamilton-Wentworth area, has asked to be given advanced notice when the teacher plans to teach sex education, so that he may remove his children in order not to conflict with the Greek Orthodox Christian teachings in the home. When the request was denied, he decided to sue.

Okay, I understand that Dr. Tourloukis has religious beliefs; however, schools are public institutions funded by public dollars. I highly suspect that his issue has a lot to do with schools teaching about same sex families and homosexuality. If he really didn't have a problem with the LGBT community, he wouldn't have an issue with his children learning that members of the GLBT community deserve equal treatment in society and should not exist with a stigmatized identity. As it is, the information given in school does not even approach the necessary level to teach children about heterosexism, cissexsm, homophobia and transphobia.

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#311 Sep 24, 2012
fr flbadcatowner:

>Divorce and single parent families are on the rise thanks to secular humanism....<

Wrong. It's usually due to domestic violence.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#312 Sep 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Are lame attempts to insult the best you have to offer? You are making yourself into a pushover. As I now fully understand the meaning of Cinco de Mayo, it renders your attempt at an insult as stale as a year old piece of bread. Have you forgotten your own gaffe at the distance from Times Square to where you live? All too often, when you points fingers at others you end up with more fingers pointed at you.
Talk about stale.... I missed it by a couple of blocks. You thought Cinco de Mayo was Mexican Independence day.

Did you get off yet? Had enough of a gay fix?

Since: Mar 09

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#314 Sep 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Back in the days before secular humanism got such a stronghold in our schools, divorce rates were much lower and there were far fewer single parent homes.
When the various churches finally learn (and practice) non-secular humanism there won't be so many secular humanists.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#315 Sep 24, 2012
Pattysboi wrote:
fr flbadcatowner:
>Divorce and single parent families are on the rise thanks to secular humanism....<
Wrong. It's usually due to domestic violence.
The "increase" in domestic violence is due mainly to more frequent reporting and stronger laws to protect a spouse from such abuse. Among the top ten reasons for divorce, domestic violence rates near the bottom of the list. Gay couples are known to have their share of domestic abuse as well.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#316 Sep 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
When the various churches finally learn (and practice) non-secular humanism there won't be so many secular humanists.
While this is not a direct answer to what you posted, I will say that the Church needs to keep its nose out of partisan politics and start following more closely what is taught in the Bible. I seriously doubt Jesus would want anything to do with either political party.

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#317 Sep 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>While this is not a direct answer to what you posted, I will say that the Church needs to keep its nose out of partisan politics and start following more closely what is taught in the Bible. I seriously doubt Jesus would want anything to do with either political party.
Yeshua was into social engineering.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#318 Sep 24, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about stale.... I missed it by a couple of blocks. You thought Cinco de Mayo was Mexican Independence day.
Did you get off yet? Had enough of a gay fix?
You were actually off by a considerable percentage. Two blocks in that area from west to east equals about .4 miles and you said you lived within a mile of Times Square. You were also off by more than two blocks. The Hudson River is approximately .8 miles wide and it is another .7 miles from the NYC shore on the river to Times Square which puts you in excess of 50% off unless your residence sits squarely on the NJ shore of the Hudson River. It would be like me saying that the Georgia-Florida border is almost 1500 miles from NYC (the actual distance is close to 900 miles).

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#319 Sep 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeshua was into social engineering.
But not political correctness (LOL).

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#320 Sep 24, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about stale.... I missed it by a couple of blocks. You thought Cinco de Mayo was Mexican Independence day.
Did you get off yet? Had enough of a gay fix?
What does a straight guy like me need a gay fix for? You get more irrational all the time. If I ever had gay sex, I would regard it as polluting myself and have no desire whatsoever to find out what it feels like.

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#321 Sep 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>But not political correctness (LOL).
If by "political correctness" you mean social priorities, you couldn't be more wrong.

He thought humans were the shi!, and their potential almost boundless.

"What you have seen me do, you shall do far greater."

Freedom for all, in ever increasing ciorcles, IS one of the fruits he foresaw of the social engineering processes he set in motion.

" ... and there shall be no giving or taking in marriage, for you shall be as the angels ... "

is another.

ORGY !!!!

Since: Apr 08

Cleveland, OH

#322 Sep 25, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>What does a straight guy like me need a gay fix for?
That's what the rest of us have been wondering. Why on earth do you hang out on LGBT threads if you're not gay?

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#323 Sep 25, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
If by "political correctness" you mean social priorities, you couldn't be more wrong.
He thought humans were the shi!, and their potential almost boundless.
"What you have seen me do, you shall do far greater."
Freedom for all, in ever increasing ciorcles, IS one of the fruits he foresaw of the social engineering processes he set in motion.
" ... and there shall be no giving or taking in marriage, for you shall be as the angels ... "
is another.
ORGY !!!!
Our social priorities today have resulted in more single parent homes and more dependence on government help for struggling single parents at a time when our governmnt can least afford it. I am sure you are aware of the size of our deficits and out of control social spending does aggravate the situation. Freedom is a wonderful thing, but only if exercised responsibly.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#324 Sep 25, 2012
Gay And Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what the rest of us have been wondering. Why on earth do you hang out on LGBT threads if you're not gay?
You are one deluded sicko if you think supporting a father standing up to a school that won't allow his children to opt out of objectionable instruction which has nothing to do with with teaching academic skills. Taking stands against something one disagrees with hardly equates to hanging out. By applying the same type of reasoning that you use against me, any gay who freqently would hang out near the headquarters of an anti-gay orgabnization in a protest would very likely be a closet straight. You really need to learn how to make a rational argument.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#325 Sep 25, 2012
Let me restate the first sentence of the previous post. If you think that supporting a father who is standing up to a school which won't allow his children to opt out of objectionable instruction which has nothing to do with teaching academic skills somehow equates to being gay or at least having gay tendencies, you are one deluded sicko.

Since: Mar 09

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#326 Sep 25, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Our social priorities today have resulted in more single parent homes and more dependence on government help for struggling single parents at a time when our governmnt can least afford it. I am sure you are aware of the size of our deficits and out of control social spending does aggravate the situation. Freedom is a wonderful thing, but only if exercised responsibly.
That's pure Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#327 Sep 25, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
That's pure Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.
All that overeducated spiel does not change the fact that when we lived under Judeo-Christian values that there were far fewer divorces and far fewer single parent homes.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#328 Sep 25, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>All that overeducated spiel does not change the fact that when we lived under Judeo-Christian values that there were far fewer divorces and far fewer single parent homes.
Can you hear me cheering?
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#329 Sep 25, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about stale.... I missed it by a couple of blocks. You thought Cinco de Mayo was Mexican Independence day.
Did you get off yet? Had enough of a gay fix?
spoken like a true idiot.Every time you open your mouth you soil yourself.

Since: Mar 09

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#330 Sep 25, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>All that overeducated spiel does not change the fact that when we lived under Judeo-Christian values that there were far fewer divorces and far fewer single parent homes.
Those aren't the facts.

The J/C veneer barely covered it. People just got realistic.

Don't belittle education, or be afraid of it. Aspire to it.

PHEPH is a fallacy.

Since: Apr 08

Cleveland, OH

#331 Sep 25, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Those aren't the facts.
The J/C veneer barely covered it. People just got realistic.
Don't belittle education, or be afraid of it. Aspire to it.
PHEPH is a fallacy.
Here's a helpful website that explains logical fallacies: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

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