Penn. Marriage Equality Bill Introduced

Penn. Marriage Equality Bill Introduced

There are 23 comments on the EDGE story from Oct 3, 2013, titled Penn. Marriage Equality Bill Introduced. In it, EDGE reports that:

PHILADELPHIA, Against the backdrop of Love Park, state Reps. Brian Sims, D-Phila., and Steve McCarter, D-Montgomery/Phila., were joined by supporters in announcing the introduction of H.B. 1686, the Pennsylvania Marriage Equality Act.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Oct 3, 2013
I guess that's something like progress, but the bill has ZERO chances of getting passed as long as the GOPasaurs control the legislature.

The courts will likely have to enforce equality in Pennsylvania, as well as the other 37 remaining states.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Oct 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
I guess that's something like progress, but the bill has ZERO chances of getting passed as long as the GOPasaurs control the legislature.
The courts will likely have to enforce equality in Pennsylvania, as well as the other 37 remaining states.
I agree.

And although Pennsylvania is a northeastern state, bordering New Jersey, socially it's more akin to Alabama or Mississippi or one of those other little states way down South that nobody ever heard of before anyways.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#3 Oct 3, 2013
Actually, Pennsylvania is between New Jersey to the east and Ohio and West Virginia to the west. It's between New York to the north and Maryland to the south. It's politics are just about what you'd expect if you knew anything about its neighbors.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#4 Oct 4, 2013
The further north, west and east in the state you go the more liberal it tends to get (with pockets of conservatism throughout). Central PA, however (where I reside), is highly conservative and consists of a lot of people. The result ends up being a state that's about 50/50 regarding politics but will lean red more often than not.

As a moderate and an atheist I tend to see things from an outsider's perspective. It can be scary at times.
Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Oct 4, 2013
llDayo wrote:
The further north, west and east in the state you go the more liberal it tends to get (with pockets of conservatism throughout). Central PA, however (where I reside), is highly conservative and consists of a lot of people. The result ends up being a state that's about 50/50 regarding politics but will lean red more often than not.
As a moderate and an atheist I tend to see things from an outsider's perspective. It can be scary at times.
It is ALL highly conservative with the exception of Philly, Pittsburgh, and Erie. Sims throws around that "majority of Pennsylvanians support marriage equality" rather fast and loosely. I live here. I have heard of no polls testing how PA stands. Nobody has asked me. There have been no referendums. He is talking out of his hat.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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It is ALL highly conservative with the exception of Philly, Pittsburgh, and Erie. Sims throws around that "majority of Pennsylvanians support marriage equality" rather fast and loosely. I live here. I have heard of no polls testing how PA stands. Nobody has asked me. There have been no referendums. He is talking out of his hat.
Recent polls in Pennsylvania have shown around 52% support marriage for same-sex couples.

Google the results.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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It is ALL highly conservative with the exception of Philly, Pittsburgh, and Erie. Sims throws around that "majority of Pennsylvanians support marriage equality" rather fast and loosely. I live here. I have heard of no polls testing how PA stands. Nobody has asked me. There have been no referendums. He is talking out of his hat.
Gallup, PPP, Franklin & Marshall- they've all conducted polls in PA.
Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#8 Oct 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Gallup, PPP, Franklin & Marshall- they've all conducted polls in PA.
My guess is that they conducted these polls in Philly, Erie, and Pittsburgh.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#9 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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It is ALL highly conservative with the exception of Philly, Pittsburgh, and Erie. Sims throws around that "majority of Pennsylvanians support marriage equality" rather fast and loosely. I live here. I have heard of no polls testing how PA stands. Nobody has asked me. There have been no referendums. He is talking out of his hat.
Republican-leaning congressional districts arise naturally because of the high concentration of Democrats in the larger cities. There are precincts in Philadelphia that haven't registered a single Republican vote in years.

So Pennsylvania ends up with relatively few heavily Democratic districts and a lot of Republican-leaning districts. Gerrymandering has amplified this unequal distribution: It's real easy to make those heavily Democratic districts when they are already concentrated in high-population neighborhoods.

Also, don't skip the liberals in the Allentown area and to a smaller extent Happy Valley.

Honestly, I could not stand living with the rednecks I grew up with in rural Pennsylvania. But even they run about average for the entire country. There are far worse places to live.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#10 Oct 4, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Republican-leaning congressional districts arise naturally because of the high concentration of Democrats in the larger cities. There are precincts in Philadelphia that haven't registered a single Republican vote in years.
So Pennsylvania ends up with relatively few heavily Democratic districts and a lot of Republican-leaning districts. Gerrymandering has amplified this unequal distribution: It's real easy to make those heavily Democratic districts when they are already concentrated in high-population neighborhoods.
Also, don't skip the liberals in the Allentown area and to a smaller extent Happy Valley.
Honestly, I could not stand living with the rednecks I grew up with in rural Pennsylvania. But even they run about average for the entire country. There are far worse places to live.
And these people in these dying cities are the ones who vote for a party whose policies drive out industry and other businesses from the cities, and cause people to flee because of high unemployment, and it's associated effects like poverty and high taxes and crime.

How's that hopey-changey thing workin out fer ya ?:)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#11 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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My guess is that they conducted these polls in Philly, Erie, and Pittsburgh.
So instead of actually looking up the data, you'll just make assumptions which match your preconceived beliefs instead.

Got it.

You probably think Gov Corbett is going to be reelected too.....
Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Oct 4, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Republican-leaning congressional districts arise naturally because of the high concentration of Democrats in the larger cities. There are precincts in Philadelphia that haven't registered a single Republican vote in years.
So Pennsylvania ends up with relatively few heavily Democratic districts and a lot of Republican-leaning districts. Gerrymandering has amplified this unequal distribution: It's real easy to make those heavily Democratic districts when they are already concentrated in high-population neighborhoods.
Also, don't skip the liberals in the Allentown area and to a smaller extent Happy Valley.
Honestly, I could not stand living with the rednecks I grew up with in rural Pennsylvania. But even they run about average for the entire country. There are far worse places to live.
Look at an election results map of PA sometime.
Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#13 Oct 4, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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And these people in these dying cities are the ones who vote for a party whose policies drive out industry and other businesses from the cities, and cause people to flee because of high unemployment, and it's associated effects like poverty and high taxes and crime.
How's that hopey-changey thing workin out fer ya ?:)
You got it! The city folks by and large are dependent on government or young and still "open-minded," i.e. liberal, until they figure out that being liberal is another way to be intolerant that is costing them big time supporting the government-dependent folks.
Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#14 Oct 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So instead of actually looking up the data, you'll just make assumptions which match your preconceived beliefs instead.
Got it.
You probably think Gov Corbett is going to be reelected too.....
Assumptions based on my own community.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#15 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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Assumptions based on my own community.
Your community (or your assumptions about it) obviously isn't representative of the entire state.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Oct 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Your community (or your assumptions about it) obviously isn't representative of the entire state.
I agree. It's always annoyed me that when I mention to someone that I'm from New York, they almost always think of Harlem or the worst parts of The City Of New York, when I haven't lived in Queens since 1966.

There's a LOT MORE to The State Of New York, than just it's largest city.(New York State's population is roughly 19 million, and about 1.5 million of those people live in Manhattan).

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#17 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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Look at an election results map of PA sometime.
I have. Have you? Specifically, what do you disagree with?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#18 Oct 4, 2013
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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Assumptions based on my own community.
New Ken is exurban Pittsburgh. I can't believe the town is that full of ignorant and intolerant people like yourself.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#19 Oct 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Your community (or your assumptions about it) obviously isn't representative of the entire state.
The lowlifes he talks to who vote against their own interests are not representative of New Kensington.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#20 Oct 4, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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And these people in these dying cities are the ones who vote for a party whose policies drive out industry and other businesses from the cities, and cause people to flee because of high unemployment, and it's associated effects like poverty and high taxes and crime.
How's that hopey-changey thing workin out fer ya ?:)
It would be working fairly well, if we could just get rid of a few more Republicans. It's good to have goals.

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