Episcopal church weighs same-sex blessing

Oct 7, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Green Bay Press-Gazette

The U.S. Episcopal Church is paving its way as the first major religious denomination in the country to bless same-sex relationships ...

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Sorry, Joe.
But, these are YOUR errands. You are the one who insists on denying the truth about these things ...
The "truth" about what?
The responsibility for proving your claims rests with you.

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Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... because you can't refute it's data that reveals the relationship between homosexuality and pedophelia in the RCC, which is why I have repeatedly mentioned that study.
If someone is attracted only to underage children, they are pedophiles, not gay or straight.

If you are referring to men who have sex with young boys past the age of puberty, then yes, the RCC has actively recruited men who would do such things. If you only open the priesthood to males who are perfectly content to live without females, and without a family of their own, what so you think your will get?

You will get a lot of gay men who are willing to live in the closet.

But you will also get numbers of religous minded sexually stunted self hating closet types that are trying to believe that their lack of interest in women for whatever reason is a "calling" from God and not something else entirely. So is it any wonder that so many of them seem to break mentally?

That's not being gay, Dear, that's , well adjusted openly gay men, but stunted closet cases with broken minds. And that's just what they get.

But NONE of this has anything to do with the average gay person, their relationships, their marriage, or their families.

Any more than the atrocious stats regarding the ages of males who create the majority of underage pregnancies in the country has anything to do with you, your marriage or your family.

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But you will also get numbers of religous minded sexually stunted self hating closet types that are trying to believe that their lack of interest in women for whatever reason is a "calling" from God and not something else entirely. So is it any wonder that so many of them seem to break mentally?
That's not being gay, Dear, that's , well adjusted openly gay men, but stunted closet cases with broken minds. And that's just what they get.
But NONE of this has anything to do with the average gay person, their relationships, their marriage, or their families ...
How can anyone define the "average gay person," and if a homosexual priest isn't "average," what type of gay is he?

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How can anyone define the "average gay person," and if a homosexual priest isn't "average," what type of gay is he?
Perhaps if you weren't part of the man only club there wouldn't be this problem with PEDOPHILES.

Since you say God is for male and female marriages why does your church deny priests the right to be as God made them?

You're church is so full of man made bs that even they can't do it 'right', they can't follow their own rules, maybe because they contradict the ways of God?

LOL!

Why can't you admit when you are wrong?

Why must you redefine things to make you look right?

You are clueless, as usual....

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The "truth" about what?
The responsibility for proving your claims rests with you.
That would be the easy way out for you, requiring no effort on your part and leaving you the option of continued denial.

No.

The responsibility for gaining knowledge of something that you presently disagree with and do not yet understand rests with you.

Only by reaching a conclusion on your own, first that you may be wrong, even entirely wrong about something and second, that you may be free to change your mind about something that you have passionately believed to be correct, only to find out that you have been incorrect, can you accept a different point of view.

There is an old saying and it is true:

No man who does not want to be convinced can be convinced. And, a man who does want to be convinced needs no convincing.

The "errand" of finding out and realizing the significance of how many or what percentage of RCC clergy are homosexual, yet not pedophile, is YOUR errand. Like it or not.

Why is it yours? Simply because, that understanding is something you do not wish to know and are even avoiding. That knowledge would require you to see the distinction between the homosexual and the pedophile, which distinction clearly exists.

Until you come to that recognition, it is unlikely that you will be able to understand why the Episcopal Church is weighing the Church-wide approval of the conditional blessing of same-sex relationships.

May God Bless You, Brother, with the opening of your eyes and the restructuring of your understanding in the Teachings of Christ Jesus.

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How can anyone define the "average gay person," and if a homosexual priest isn't "average," what type of gay is he?
PAY ATTENTION HERE, FOLKS!

Joe DeCaro has intentionally amended Quest's statement to which the above response from Joe was given to say something Quest did ***NOT*** write.

Review the post by Quest. Then review the post by Quest as Joe DeCaro presented it in order to give a response!

BAD JUJU, Joey Boy. Especially bad behavior for one who touts his position on these threads as an "editor."

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The "errand" of finding out and realizing the significance of how many or what percentage of RCC clergy are homosexual, yet not pedophile, is YOUR errand ...
The proof for YOUR claims still rests with you, not others.
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PAY ATTENTION HERE, FOLKS!
Joe DeCaro has intentionally amended Quest's statement ...
Amended how?
See above about proving your claims.

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The proof for YOUR claims still rests with you, not others.
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Amended how?
See above about proving your claims.
You amended his post, leaving off the last part of his thought. It was a significant change; deliberate.

LOL!!!.... Nope. It is YOUR errand. Run it.

I haven't clamed anything that the Jay Report writers don't already know. And YOU are the one citing statistics from the Jay Reports. Sometimes what is not said is just as important as what IS said and by saying it, the sayer illuminates what is not said. Such is the case with the Jay Reports.

You want to live by the sword? You get to die by the sword.

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You amended his post, leaving off the last part of his thought. It was a significant change ...
Changed how?
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I haven't clamed anything that the Jay Report writers don't already know ...
Then prove it.

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Changed how?
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Then prove it.
Your posts prove you are a hypocrite, a liar and a nut.

Kudos......

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Your posts prove you ...
... unlike yourself, use my real name?

Of course, there's a reason you have to hide behind a screen name.

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... unlike yourself, use my real name?
Of course, there's a reason you have to hide behind a screen name.
You bet, just like Think Again and "georgiekins".

At least I'm registered, which really makes no difference to the topic.

You really are getting more and more desperate to avoid you lies, your misunderstandings and your bigoted outlook of God....

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You bet, just like Think Again and "georgiekins" ...
No, you are not just like them because you are a troll.

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No, you are not just like them because you are a troll.
LOL!

New definition (surprise) from joline:

A troll is anyone who disagrees with him.

Kudos again.....

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LOL!
New definition (surprise) from joline:
A troll is anyone who disagrees with him ...
... but you're no one, not anyone.

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... but you're no one, not anyone.
I'm someone all right.

Are you?

Just because you use your real name (no creativity at all) you are still a clueless non-member of anything.

You just another David Moore, all whining, all bitterness, no joy, no God....

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I'm someone all right ...
All wrong, troll.
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Everyone should be able to marry who they want to. If you agree and want to stop the hate check out stopgayabuse.com to make a difference

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All wrong, troll.
Yawn.

Some one let me know if joline posts anything relevant, especially to the topic at hand.........

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Yawn.
Some one let me know if joline posts anything relevant ...
This forum isn't a hotel and its posters aren't your wake-up service.

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