Hoylman blasts Scouts for maintaining...

Hoylman blasts Scouts for maintaining adult ban

There are 20 comments on the Albany Times Union story from May 24, 2013, titled Hoylman blasts Scouts for maintaining adult ban. In it, Albany Times Union reports that:

Sen. Brad Hoylman, who like his predecessor Tom Duane is the only openly gay lawmaker in the chamber, says the governing body of the Boy Scouts of America needs to go beyond lifting its blanket ban on gay Scouts and scrap its continued ban on gay or lesbian adult Scout leaders.

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Morals

Parkersburg, WV

#1 May 25, 2013
If he would have came out of the closet when he was in the scouts, then he would not have been a scout for very long. Now he wants to be all high and mighty now that he's a senator. He is still breaking the sodomy laws of New York by living with another man as husband and wife. He should be setting an better example by obaying the laws.
Karmack

Bumpass, VA

#2 May 26, 2013
The problem I have with gays in the scouts is this. Would you want your 13 year old son to share a tent with another 13 year old that may be sexually attracted to him? What if they're both gay and sexually attracted to each other? To me it would be no different than a straight boy and girl sharing a tent. You know how that could turn out. In my opinion it's just a recipe for disaster. In some cases a little discrimination is a good thing.

Bug Ridge

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#3 May 26, 2013
Boy Scouts of America needs to be totally free of gays & females.

The Real Jimmy Love

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#4 May 26, 2013
(hello, lover - hello, lover)

Have you noticed, that people are still having sex. all the denouncement had absolutely no effect. parents and counsellors constantly scorn them. but people are still having sex and nothing seems to stop them.

Do you realise, that people are still having sex, they’ve been told not to, perhaps they are perplexed. when you see them holding hands they’re making future plans to engage in the activity, do you understand?

People are still having sex, lust keeps on lurking. nothing makes them stop, this aids thing’s not working.

People are still having sex...
People are still having sex...
People are still having sex...

The Real Jimmy Love

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#7 May 26, 2013
lol sexually repressed christians.
I really think the Germans picked the wrong religion to stuff in the ovens.
Karmack

Bumpass, VA

#8 May 26, 2013
So what would you have them do? Go ahead kids and have fun. Tonight's movie is Broke Back Mountain. What could possibly go wrong?
absolutely

United States

#10 May 26, 2013
Boy Jimmy love if I've ever agreed with amything you've ever said on here it's that!
Logic Questions 4 Fundies

Alpharetta, GA

#11 May 26, 2013
Karmack wrote:
The problem I have with gays in the scouts is this. Would you want your 13 year old son to share a tent with another 13 year old that may be sexually attracted to him? What if they're both gay and sexually attracted to each other? To me it would be no different than a straight boy and girl sharing a tent. You know how that could turn out. In my opinion it's just a recipe for disaster. In some cases a little discrimination is a good thing.
They can't get pregnant; so what's the problem?
excuses

Madison, WV

#13 May 26, 2013
Karmack wrote:
The problem I have with gays in the scouts is this. Would you want your 13 year old son to share a tent with another 13 year old that may be sexually attracted to him? What if they're both gay and sexually attracted to each other? To me it would be no different than a straight boy and girl sharing a tent. You know how that could turn out. In my opinion it's just a recipe for disaster. In some cases a little discrimination is a good thing.
Is that you Scooby?

Straight boys and girls hook up all the time. In school, at camp, at attackers, etc. Most parents don't watch their kids every minute. Boys have already been sleeping in tents with gay boys. You really think that there are no gay boys in scouts? The problem that you have with gays in the scouts is that you are a homophobe.
might know

Springfield, NJ

#14 May 26, 2013
Scouts might as well start falling apart just as military. And don't say it isn't because I'm going on my 14th year of enlistment and I've seen firsthand the changes, most definitely not for the better. Did we not learn from birth that men and women are different for a reason? A rectums primary use is for an exit of human waste? Why do we live a world where we think every impulse has a right to be acted upon? I want to be a millionaire so do I rob to get rich? I would love to have a harem but do I act upon it? Homosexuals are weak minded, attention grabbers and are the straw that broke the camels back. And in this case the camels back is our once strong prideful country. I'm do glad that the biggest part of my life is behind me bc I don't want to live in a world destroyed by queers. How would these homosexuals be here if a man and woman had not had normal sexual encounter?
disgusted

Springfield, NJ

#15 May 26, 2013
Scouts might as well start falling apart just as military. And don't say it isn't because I'm going on my 14th year of enlistment and I've seen firsthand the changes, most definitely not for the better. Did we not learn from birth that men and women are different for a reason? A rectums primary use is for an exit of human waste? Why do we live a world where we think every impulse has a right to be acted upon? I want to be a millionaire so do I rob to get rich? I would love to have a harem but do I act upon it? Homosexuals are weak minded, attention grabbers and are the straw that broke the camels back. And in this case the camels back is our once strong prideful country. I'm so glad that the biggest part of my life is behind me bc I don't want to live in a world destroyed by queers.

The Real Jimmy Love

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#16 May 27, 2013
LMFAO, "I hate them thar queers eye's" Bit$h bring me a sammy...dont make me hit you again. Now get on up them stairs and praise jesus that I haven't violated your poop shoot tonight...damn queers i don't get how they like in the butt i mean we poop outta that thing.
Oh that thar sammys dune gone an give me tha meat sweats, HONEY I'm commin up thar to work off this sammy! BREAK OUT THA BACON GREASE!

Yup those are some strong moral fibers!
Karmack

Bumpass, VA

#17 May 27, 2013
The Real Jimmy Love wrote:
LMFAO, "I hate them thar queers eye's" Bit$h bring me a sammy...dont make me hit you again. Now get on up them stairs and praise jesus that I haven't violated your poop shoot tonight...damn queers i don't get how they like in the butt i mean we poop outta that thing.
Oh that thar sammys dune gone an give me tha meat sweats, HONEY I'm commin up thar to work off this sammy! BREAK OUT THA BACON GREASE!
Yup those are some strong moral fibers!
You sure make a helluva lot of assumptions about people you know nothing about. You must be psychic.
Karmack

Bumpass, VA

#18 May 27, 2013
excuses wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that you Scooby?
Straight boys and girls hook up all the time. In school, at camp, at attackers, etc. Most parents don't watch their kids every minute. Boys have already been sleeping in tents with gay boys. You really think that there are no gay boys in scouts? The problem that you have with gays in the scouts is that you are a homophobe.
Nope, not Scooby. Yes I realize all that happens but I don't think we need to make it easier and more or less just condone it. And no, I'm not a homophobe. I personally think it's a mental illness just like depression or Bi-Polar disorder and just has not been researched and diagnosed.
Butter finger

Parkersburg, WV

#19 May 27, 2013
Poor Brad blasting the Scouts! Does Brad want to be a gay scout leader? Maybe Brad can start his own gay scout group and keep the straights out. He doth protest to much! Does he have self motivating agenda on this subject?

The Real Jimmy Love

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#22 May 27, 2013
So Karmack when did you decide to be straight?
dave

Princeton, WV

#23 Jun 12, 2013
The Real Jimmy Love wrote:
LMFAO, "I hate them thar queers eye's" Bit$h bring me a sammy...dont make me hit you again. Now get on up them stairs and praise jesus that I haven't violated your poop shoot tonight...damn queers i don't get how they like in the butt i mean we poop outta that thing.
Oh that thar sammys dune gone an give me tha meat sweats, HONEY I'm commin up thar to work off this sammy! BREAK OUT THA BACON GREASE!
Yup those are some strong moral fibers!
the problem with the gays in scouts issue is that a gay scout master watching over all these little boys as they sleep alone in tents clean themselves or anything else in camp would be no different than sending a straight man to look over the girl scouts at their camp. some things are just not the right thing to do. kinda like your mothers choice to not bag you up and toss you into the river at birth

Bug Ridge

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#24 Jun 12, 2013
Otis

Milton, WV

#25 Jun 12, 2013
Bug Ridge wrote:
What do you know about anything Bug?? I'll answer that for you. NOTHING.
okay

Summersville, WV

#26 Jun 13, 2013
Karmack wrote:
The problem I have with gays in the scouts is this. Would you want your 13 year old son to share a tent with another 13 year old that may be sexually attracted to him? What if they're both gay and sexually attracted to each other? To me it would be no different than a straight boy and girl sharing a tent. You know how that could turn out. In my opinion it's just a recipe for disaster. In some cases a little discrimination is a good thing.
Do you actually believe that that never happened before they lifted a ban? There have been gay kids & gay scout leaders as long as the scouts have been in existence. Technically allowing them now does not change that. & to the homophobe spouting off about the army - same thing applies. There have always been gay people in the military just because they 'allow' it now does not mean they haven't ALWAYS been there.

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