Anti-gay-marriage group argues case in Maine

There are 203 comments on the WDBO-AM Orlando story from Apr 7, 2013, titled Anti-gay-marriage group argues case in Maine. In it, WDBO-AM Orlando reports that:

The Maine Supreme Judicial Court will hear arguments this week on a national anti-gay-marriage group's efforts to keep its donor list confidential.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#27 Apr 8, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
Actually, I don't believe they lived up to their promises to help defeat Republicans who voted against them. And they've made smaller threats against recent defectors.
I find it fascinating that they still call themselves non-partisan, but they focus on Republican candidates. If they were non-partisan and they had the resources, they would attack ALL legislators who voted against their wishes. But their real goal is only to keep the Republicans in-line, because they know they've lost the larger fight.
Even their donors must see the foolishness of using resources to attack only members of their preferred party. It's a great way to throw elections to the opposition party.
The only thing NOM has left is their fear of being outed.
Their holy war against the Republican heretics in New York did end rather anemically, but it failed less because of NOM's ability to write a check, but due to a short supply of mercenaries willing to play the role of true believer for what they were legally able to offer. Buying a candidate is a lot harder to do than buying an answer to a ballot question, especially when the limits on contributions to a candidate are a hell of a lot less than what it takes for one to win. NOM's contribution would be sizable, but not nearly enough to run an actual campaign and came with no guarantee that their blessings for their holy cause would bring in the rest. Few takers.

NOM is the keeper of some really big dirty little secrets, secrets that get dirtier by the day, those whose secret that they have been keeping are going to have to keep paying them for their safe keeping. I imagine that a number of the few sources they are really protecting have secretly spent more on this one anti-gay cause than the owners of Chik-fil-A did on all their pet evil projects over the years. The Cathy's were more or less forgiven, because they were open about their bigotry and their actual customer base more or less agreed with them. NOM's appeal has always been to the more or less closeted bigots who will continue to pony up to stay there. The only thing that those in on the secret of who they have the dirt on has to fear at this point is what they know will happen when the walls get removed around the door they've guarding. The BEST case scenario is they are out of a job and have a serious resume killer to plan their futures around. Who they are hiding in their closet is only the first question, the answer to the second question, what are they doing in there, has at least some potential of being criminal.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#28 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Yep, maybe in another 20 years they'll finally be forced to release the donor names.
Gotta love our moronic judicial system.
While our judicial system does have the unfortunate habit of going into perpetual circular motion around seemingly absurd cases, it's a system set up to more or less where they are required to play along as long as the parties involved want to play in the courts. But even with that and its long list of other flaws, in many, many ways it's far superior to the comparables.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#29 Apr 8, 2013
About 81 more days or less.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Philadelphia, PA

#30 Apr 8, 2013
Cleveland Kid wrote:
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How many little boys did you molested this past weekend, you queer piece of Sh!t??
Six fewer than the six you did.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#31 Apr 8, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>While our judicial system does have the unfortunate habit of going into perpetual circular motion around seemingly absurd cases, it's a system set up to more or less where they are required to play along as long as the parties involved want to play in the courts. But even with that and its long list of other flaws, in many, many ways it's far superior to the comparables.
I don't know if it really serves any purpose anymore. Political appointees who answer to no one and set their own rules.

I'd like to see the process streamlined with a maximum of 1 year from the time a lawsuit is filed to a final ruling from the SCOTUS.
Francisco dAnconia

Montpelier, VT

#32 Apr 8, 2013
hey sheeple, did you see all those stories about how the likely outcome of the DOMA case and prop 8 will create a patchwork system with no comity amongst states?

still wanting to call that DOMA case a win?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#33 Apr 8, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
hey sheeple, did you see all those stories about how the likely outcome of the DOMA case and prop 8 will create a patchwork system with no comity amongst states?
still wanting to call that DOMA case a win?
Assuming the court rules to overturn section 3 of DOMA, of course it's a win. We get federal recognition and over 1100 federal right & benefits where we didn't have them before.

Only an anti-gay moron would try to twist that into a loss somehow, but I'm sure you'll do just that!

Comity amongst all the states what never a realistic possibility with either of these cases. Only those who had unrealistic expectations will be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate when both Prop 8 & DOMA are overturned.
Francisco dAnconia

Montpelier, VT

#34 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Assuming the court rules to overturn section 3 of DOMA, of course it's a win. We get federal recognition and over 1100 federal right & benefits where we didn't have them before.
Only an anti-gay moron would try to twist that into a loss somehow, but I'm sure you'll do just that!
Comity amongst all the states what never a realistic possibility with either of these cases. Only those who had unrealistic expectations will be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate when both Prop 8 & DOMA are overturned.
ah, I see, so getting the right BACK AGAIN in CA is a win?
and it only cost you a national decision...
I'm a little dizzy from THAT spin...

yup, since I wanted you having to have to get the vote, I call all this a win....

Since: Mar 09

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#35 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if it really serves any purpose anymore. Political appointees who answer to no one and set their own rules.
I'd like to see the process streamlined with a maximum of 1 year from the time a lawsuit is filed to a final ruling from the SCOTUS.
Things could be improved immediately if all the vacant seats on the Federal Bench were filled. And the 9th Circuit needs to be split into two.

Are you listening U.S. Senate?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#36 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Assuming the court rules to overturn section 3 of DOMA, of course it's a win. We get federal recognition and over 1100 federal right & benefits where we didn't have them before.
Only an anti-gay moron would try to twist that into a loss somehow, but I'm sure you'll do just that!
Comity amongst all the states what never a realistic possibility with either of these cases. Only those who had unrealistic expectations will be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate when both Prop 8 & DOMA are overturned.
SCOTUS ruled in the General Motors case, that states MUST LEGALLY RECOGNIZE all the acts of other states. The U.S. Constitution did not carve out ANY exceptions, such as a "gay exception, and SCOTUS ALSO DID NOT care out any exceptions. This isn't really too hard to understand.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#37 Apr 8, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
<quoted text>
ah, I see, so getting the right BACK AGAIN in CA is a win?
and it only cost you a national decision...
I'm a little dizzy from THAT spin...
yup, since I wanted you having to have to get the vote, I call all this a win....
Of course getting the right back in California is a win.

The only way we could have lost would be if Prop 8 was upheld, and even that would only be a temporary loss.

There was never going to be a national decision in our favor at this point; not with the current Republican majority court. Only fools thought that was a possibility.

Assuming both DOMA & Prop 8 are overturned, then we didn't have to get the vote in California nor the Congress.

You can call it whatever you want. The only thing that matters is getting the federal rights & benefits and getting California back in the equality column.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#38 Apr 8, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Things could be improved immediately if all the vacant seats on the Federal Bench were filled. And the 9th Circuit needs to be split into two.
Are you listening U.S. Senate?
How about having the SCOTUS work year round, instead of just 9 months hearing about a dozen cases if they feel like it?
Francisco dAnconia

Montpelier, VT

#39 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>

There was never going to be a national decision in our favor at this point;
wow, did you just accept reality?

this is not what you were saying a few months ago...
remember anything can happen?

so you got the right back in CA, seems to me to be one step forward two steps back eh?
Francisco dAnconia

Montpelier, VT

#40 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>

You can call it whatever you want. The only thing that matters is getting the federal rights & benefits and getting California back in the equality column.
even at the expense of the national agenda?

got it.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#41 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Assuming the court rules to overturn section 3 of DOMA, of course it's a win. We get federal recognition and over 1100 federal right & benefits where we didn't have them before.
Only an anti-gay moron would try to twist that into a loss somehow, but I'm sure you'll do just that!
Comity amongst all the states what never a realistic possibility with either of these cases. Only those who had unrealistic expectations will be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate when both Prop 8 & DOMA are overturned.
REPOST TO CORRECT SOME KEYBOARDING ERRORS:

SCOTUS ruled in the General Motors case, that states MUST LEGALLY RECOGNIZE all the acts of other states. The U.S. Constitution did not carve out ANY exceptions, such as a "gay exception", and SCOTUS ALSO DID NOT carve out any exceptions. This isn't really too hard to understand.
Francisco dAnconia

Montpelier, VT

#42 Apr 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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REPOST TO CORRECT SOME KEYBOARDING ERRORS:
SCOTUS ruled in the General Motors case, that states MUST LEGALLY RECOGNIZE all the acts of other states. The U.S. Constitution did not carve out ANY exceptions, such as a "gay exception", and SCOTUS ALSO DID NOT carve out any exceptions. This isn't really too hard to understand.
it is simple, incorrect, but simple.

Do states have to accept out of state professional LICENSES?
no?
hmmm, but marriage is a state LICENSE too....

there goes general motors applying...

Since: Mar 09

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#43 Apr 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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How about having the SCOTUS work year round, instead of just 9 months hearing about a dozen cases if they feel like it?
How about eliminating majority/minority opinions?

If the decision isn't unanimous the lower Court decision stands. lol

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#44 Apr 8, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
<quoted text>
wow, did you just accept reality?
this is not what you were saying a few months ago...
remember anything can happen?
so you got the right back in CA, seems to me to be one step forward two steps back eh?
While anything can happeen, I've ALWAYS said it was my opinion this court would never issue a sweeping national ruling.

We will have gained one state and lost none.

That's one step forward.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#45 Apr 8, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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even at the expense of the national agenda?
got it.
Getting DOMA & PROP 8 overturned in no way affects the national agenda.

We still have to win state-by-state until the SCOTUS has a liberal majority, just as before these cases.

The only difference is we will have one less state to have to worry about and we'll have all the federal rights & benefits while we work on the others and wait for Kennedy and/or Scalia to die.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#46 Apr 8, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
REPOST TO CORRECT SOME KEYBOARDING ERRORS:
SCOTUS ruled in the General Motors case, that states MUST LEGALLY RECOGNIZE all the acts of other states. The U.S. Constitution did not carve out ANY exceptions, such as a "gay exception", and SCOTUS ALSO DID NOT carve out any exceptions. This isn't really too hard to understand.
And it has nothing to do with marriage laws..

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