The Cross In The Closet

Dec 31, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

"The Cross in the Closet" by Timothy Kurek is a cross between Dan Millman's "Way of the Peaceful Warrior" and "The Matrix." Spurred by his self-disgust to his reaction to one of his friends coming out to him, Kurek, a straight, bigoted, conservative Christian, assumed the life of a gay man for one year to rid himself of his homophobia.

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Rainbow Kid

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Caleb wrote:
It is homofascists that are ignorant, hateful, anti-Christian bigots. The Christian Bible forever condemns and prohibits all homosexual activity. This fact will never change. If homofascists felt good about living in open rebellion against God, they wouldn't be promoting this sort of hateful anti-Christian bigotry.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
The aggressor plays the victim. Classic. It's not going to work sugar britches. ESPECIALLY when you follow up your "cry for help" with a spew of biblical denouncements of your "attacker."

Repeatedly stating the exact opposite of the truth only works if your audience drank the fundie kool-aid.

You preach love but practice hate.
You proclaim you're "free indeed!" but never tire of self-imposed rules.
You instruct people to be humble but spend your life trying to out-holy your neighbor.
You worship the Prince of Peace but there is no peace until you have destroyed those who disagree with you.
You hold everyone accountable while your own sins are "washed in the blood."
You make a "joyous noise" unto The Lord because you live in FEAR of damnation.

Get a clue. No one needs a bible to tell them that hate is not love. Bondage is not freedom. Boastfulness is not humility. Domination is not peace. Morality cannot come without accountability. And fear is not joy.

And the bully is not the victim.

You're a lying snake. And you're selling snake oil.

“... from a ...”

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Dec 31, 2012
 
This book reminds me of ...

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Drunken Talibangelical

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Caleb wrote:
It is homo....
The theocratic closet case might have a point if we had laws saying "religious" freeeks with heavy sex problems couldn't marry the gender of their choosing, serve openly, adopt, be protected from arbitrary firing.

(We know who the bigots are by their actions.)
Chance

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Where do the labels come from? I never saw anybody label themselves as "straight" until all the non-straight people popped out of the closet and labeled themselves "gay" or "lesbian" or "bi-sexual." After that, people saw a need to label themselves as "straight" just to make sure no mistakes were made about them. This guy lied to his family and friends in order to show that labels applied by gays, lesbians and bi-sexuals to themselves don't tell the whole story about them. Who cares? If people want to label themselves, it is their problem if that is all the world sees. They made a choice to present themselves that way. That is obviously what they want the world to see. Maybe someday they will realize how much they hurt themselves in the process.
Rainbow Kid

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Chance wrote:
Where do the labels come from? I never saw anybody label themselves as "straight" until all the non-straight people popped out of the closet and labeled themselves "gay" or "lesbian" or "bi-sexual." After that, people saw a need to label themselves as "straight" just to make sure no mistakes were made about them. This guy lied to his family and friends in order to show that labels applied by gays, lesbians and bi-sexuals to themselves don't tell the whole story about them. Who cares? If people want to label themselves, it is their problem if that is all the world sees. They made a choice to present themselves that way. That is obviously what they want the world to see. Maybe someday they will realize how much they hurt themselves in the process.
This is exactly why we're pursuing equality
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So the rednecks can't slap labels on us

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Chance wrote:
Where do the labels come from? I never saw anybody label themselves as "straight" until all the non-straight people popped out of the closet and labeled themselves "gay" or "lesbian" or "bi-sexual." After that, people saw a need to label themselves as "straight" just to make sure no mistakes were made about them. This guy lied to his family and friends in order to show that labels applied by gays, lesbians and bi-sexuals to themselves don't tell the whole story about them. Who cares? If people want to label themselves, it is their problem if that is all the world sees. They made a choice to present themselves that way. That is obviously what they want the world to see. Maybe someday they will realize how much they hurt themselves in the process.
No matter how convoluted the path, Sickers, you always choose the destination that allows for maximizing homophobia. Reasoning and logic are either inconvenient or mentally impossible, so actually reading the article for content would be a waste of time that could be better spent in self-indulgent bigotry.
Rainbow Kid

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Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Would you call *GOD*'homophobic?
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
No; but we would call you and the rednecks that changed and rewrote your collection of post 1952 fake 'bibles' homophobes
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Would you call *GOD*'homophobic?
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
I would call him non-existent Even if he did exist, what kind of god would create people he would then condemn, at least by your dumbed-down version of the bible? And if that unreliable translation were literally true, then yes, your god would indeed be homophobic.

You, on the other hand, I would simply call idiotic. As an obvious closet case, you would do well to click on the link provided by Rainbow Kid. It is 100% applicable to you.

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fr "caleb":

>Would you call *GOD*'homophobic?...<

Nobody is calling God homophobic.

YOU, on the other hand...
Rainbow Kid

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<quoted text>*EVERY* Bible translation condemns and prohibits all homosexual acts.
You know that, don't you?
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'homosexual' appears nowhere between the covers of the Authorized King James Bible
http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012...
Chance

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Rainbow Kid wrote:
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This is exactly why we're pursuing equality
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So the rednecks can't slap labels on us
The labels were self-inflicted. "Rednecks" didn't slap them on.
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Fundie Bigots

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Chance wrote:
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The labels were self-inflicted. "Rednecks" didn't slap them on.
STFU, you ignorant filth.
Droppin in for a tad

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AzAdam wrote:
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The aggressor plays the victim. Classic. It's not going to work sugar britches. ESPECIALLY when you follow up your "cry for help" with a spew of biblical denouncements of your "attacker."
Repeatedly stating the exact opposite of the truth only works if your audience drank the fundie kool-aid.
You preach love but practice hate.
You proclaim you're "free indeed!" but never tire of self-imposed rules.
You instruct people to be humble but spend your life trying to out-holy your neighbor.
You worship the Prince of Peace but there is no peace until you have destroyed those who disagree with you.
You hold everyone accountable while your own sins are "washed in the blood."
You make a "joyous noise" unto The Lord because you live in FEAR of damnation.
Get a clue. No one needs a bible to tell them that hate is not love. Bondage is not freedom. Boastfulness is not humility. Domination is not peace. Morality cannot come without accountability. And fear is not joy.
And the bully is not the victim.
You're a lying snake. And you're selling snake oil.
Do you notice the interruption in the post numbering system?

If you had NOT responded to him, his garbage would have disappeared into the well of forgetfulness. now we're stuck with yet another iteration of his kludge. Slap a lemon on him and ignore.
Droppin in for a tad

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I would call him non-existent Even if he did exist, what kind of god would create people he would then condemn, at least by your dumbed-down version of the bible? And if that unreliable translation were literally true, then yes, your god would indeed be homophobic.
You, on the other hand, I would simply call idiotic. As an obvious closet case, you would do well to click on the link provided by Rainbow Kid. It is 100% applicable to you.
We don't talk to him anymore.

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