What Makes Homosexuality "Immoral"?

What Makes Homosexuality "Immoral"?

There are 238 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Oct 13, 2012, titled What Makes Homosexuality "Immoral"?. In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

What makes homosexuality immoral? For those who are now scratching their heads wondering why I am asking that question, it really is a valid question, and one that should be asked of every Catholic bishop, Mormon elder, Baptist minister and anti-gay Politico out there.

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Chance

Grove City, PA

#22 Oct 13, 2012
There is nothing so racist as saying that blacks did not get a good education until integration. The black children were in school, and they being taught by black teachers who went to black colleges. And the education black kids got was inferior until they got to go to white schools where they were taught by white teachers? Racist as all get out.

There are many reasons that homosexuality (male and female) are immoral, but trying to explain it to gays is like trying to explain to a hooker why being a prostitute is wrong - all are too deeply invested in their life style and depend on their lifestyle to be able to look at it objectively. If they are able to look at it objectively, then they don't need to have it explained.
SirAndrew

Honolulu, HI

#23 Oct 13, 2012
Junior E wrote:
<quoted text>
"Your religious beliefs 'offend' me."
As I originally stated, morality is not defined strictly by religion or the Bible.
For the terms of this discussion, of course they are. You earlier mention community standards and other buzz words. Those so-called standards are based on religion and the various "holy" books, the bible included.
Since this thread is about sexual morality, you can address only that. And sexual morality, or immorality, is clearly defined by the priests and priestesses of the world's various religions. Gay sex is no more immoral than is non-gay sex. It's probably MORE moral since when we have gay sex we're not lying about what sex we'd rather be having as do so many of you straight men.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#24 Oct 13, 2012
What makes homosexuality immoral?

The views of people whose security blanket of faith is threatened when proscriptions written down by some Middle Eastern desert dwellers between 3000 and 1400 years ago turn out (suprise!) to be illogical, unscientific and non-compassionate. Just as those who revealed the earth revolves around the sun were condemned 400 years ago for tearing the blanket of faith of people who were told man was the centre of the the universe.
SirAndrew

Honolulu, HI

#25 Oct 13, 2012
Chance wrote:
There is nothing so racist as saying that blacks did not get a good education until integration. The black children were in school, and they being taught by black teachers who went to black colleges. And the education black kids got was inferior until they got to go to white schools where they were taught by white teachers? Racist as all get out.
There are many reasons that homosexuality (male and female) are immoral, but trying to explain it to gays is like trying to explain to a hooker why being a prostitute is wrong - all are too deeply invested in their life style and depend on their lifestyle to be able to look at it objectively. If they are able to look at it objectively, then they don't need to have it explained.
And there is nothing so moronic as a moron trying to pretend that s/he actually has a clue. There is nothing immoral about homosexuality, and your attempt at "proving" otherwise is laughable and more than a little bit embarrassing. Also, that first paragraph is one of the weakest and most specious analogies I have ever read. And for the record, there are MANY things far more racist than that pale example. A T-shirt at a Romney rally yesterday, for instance, that said "Put the White back in the White House."

Now why don't you go away and let the grown ups talk.

Since: Jan 08

Si Racha, Thailand

#26 Oct 13, 2012
Anonymous Blogger wrote:
<quoted text>
Anonymity? So your name is Dubya? Cool.
but I'm not using anonymity to hide bigotry... and I registered, unlike you and "Junior E".

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#27 Oct 13, 2012
From the article:
"Does homosexuality actually harm society in this day and age? The reality is ‘no it does not.’ There are currently more humans alive today than can be easily supported by our planet, and yet, the idea that we should procreate to the point that there is literally one person per square foot of space on the surface of the Earth is ludicrous, is it not? That is, however, what those who constantly attack homosexuality advocate because they also advocate a ban on contraception and abortion and the subjugation of women."

This is what we've been saying all along, procreation is no longer important or even needed. There's enough people in the world, we don't need to boost those numbers further.
Circular Cemetery

Pittsfield, MA

#28 Oct 13, 2012
SirAndrew wrote:
<quoted text>
For the terms of this discussion, of course they are. You earlier mention community standards and other buzz words. Those so-called standards are based on religion and the various "holy" books, the bible included.
Since this thread is about sexual morality, you can address only that. And sexual morality, or immorality, is clearly defined by the priests and priestesses of the world's various religions. Gay sex is no more immoral than is non-gay sex. It's probably MORE moral since when we have gay sex we're not lying about what sex we'd rather be having as do so many of you straight men.
And by that rationale gay sex is no more immoral than incest, polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, adultery and on and on and on.
Unbelievable.
ravett

Brooklyn, NY

#29 Oct 13, 2012
The worst people here are what are termed "Trolls". They are adolescents who simply want attention, and get it by posting anything that will sucker more rational people, who think that replying might inform or educate, into paying attention to them. The gods only know what their home lives are like... People, you're making a mistake in replying to the trolls here. In order to have a reasonable debate on this issue, given that it's even worth debating, what is needed is to first agree on what "moral" means. There's no attempt at that here, except to eliminate religion. Fine, but then what?

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#30 Oct 13, 2012
Junior E wrote:
The promiscuity of homosexuality offends just about any definition of morality.
Ignoring whatever hangups you have about sex, how do you feel about us monogamously paired homosexuals? Are we okay by you? Or do you have some "reason" to hate us, too?

Since: Oct 12

Coolidge, AZ

#31 Oct 14, 2012
The ancient Hebrew word in the Bible for "immoral" translates to "FUN". So generally, if it's "FUN", it's "immoral". The Jews believe that life is supposed to be endless series of miseries filled with daily pain each day until you die.

:(

Protestants, on the other hand, believe that life is all about having "FUN" each day !

As Martin Luther always said when he closed each of his sermons with these words: "More Bier ! Katie, More Bier !:)"

:)

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#32 Oct 14, 2012
Chance wrote:
........
There are many reasons that homosexuality (male and female) are immoral, but trying to explain it to gays is like trying to explain to a hooker why being a prostitute is wrong - all are too deeply invested in their life style and depend on their lifestyle to be able to look at it objectively. If they are able to look at it objectively, then they don't need to have it explained.
How can a natural and God-given trait that harms no one be "immoral"?

To be immoral, by definition, doesn't something have to be chosen and hurt others?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#33 Oct 14, 2012
Circular Cemetery wrote:
<quoted text>
And by that rationale gay sex is no more immoral than incest, polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, adultery and on and on and on.
Unbelievable.
Just like the name you picked, your comment is dead. It was dead before you wrote it. It makes no sense.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#34 Oct 14, 2012
ravett wrote:
The worst people here are what are termed "Trolls". They are adolescents who simply want attention, and get it by posting anything that will sucker more rational people, who think that replying might inform or educate, into paying attention to them. The gods only know what their home lives are like... People, you're making a mistake in replying to the trolls here. In order to have a reasonable debate on this issue, given that it's even worth debating, what is needed is to first agree on what "moral" means. There's no attempt at that here, except to eliminate religion. Fine, but then what?
We don't respond to the troll for the troll's sake. We do it for the other 500 silent readers who see our posts.

The trolls are a lost cause in and of themselves.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#35 Oct 14, 2012
Circular Cemetery wrote:
<quoted text>
And by that rationale gay sex is no more immoral than incest, polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, adultery and on and on and on.
Unbelievable.
You are comparing two consenting law-abiding unrelated adults having sex, with sex with relatives, marrying in multiples, harming children, and cheating on one's spouse.

Wouldn't that apply to ALL consenting, unrelated, law-abiding adults who have sex regardless of orientation, by your logic?

You really can't see how silly that is?
Caleb

Pekin, IL

#36 Oct 14, 2012
Homosexual behavior is self centered, benefits no one, exposes people to horrible risks, disgraces families, separates people, increases domestic violence and disease, and in general is damaging.

For any Christian, there is no question about the FACT that all homosexual behavior is condemned by God:

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#37 Oct 14, 2012
The answer is NOTHING makes homosexuality immoral.

What clueless troll started this stupid thread?

NEXT

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#38 Oct 14, 2012
Caleb doesn't exist. He is NOT for real.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#39 Oct 14, 2012
SirAndrew wrote:
<quoted text>
And there is nothing so moronic as a moron trying to pretend that s/he actually has a clue. There is nothing immoral about homosexuality, and your attempt at "proving" otherwise is laughable and more than a little bit embarrassing. Also, that first paragraph is one of the weakest and most specious analogies I have ever read. And for the record, there are MANY things far more racist than that pale example. A T-shirt at a Romney rally yesterday, for instance, that said "Put the White back in the White House."
Now why don't you go away and let the grown ups talk.
Absolutely!!!
Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#40 Oct 14, 2012
Caleb wrote:
Homosexual behavior is self centered, benefits no one, exposes people to horrible risks, disgraces families, separates people, increases domestic violence and disease, and in general is damaging.
For any Christian, there is no question about the FACT that all homosexual behavior is condemned by God:...
To assume that you 1. believe in the right "god" (if there is any at all) 2. Claim that you sect of your religion is right on this issue (as I know of no religion that all sects condemn homosexuality) 3. Claim to know the judgement of god and have the right to speak for him/her/it. Are all egotistical selfish behaviors which does harm to yourself and others by spreading bigotry and hate.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#41 Oct 14, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
To assume that you 1. believe in the right "god" (if there is any at all) 2. Claim that you sect of your religion is right on this issue (as I know of no religion that all sects condemn homosexuality) 3. Claim to know the judgement of god and have the right to speak for him/her/it. Are all egotistical selfish behaviors which does harm to yourself and others by spreading bigotry and hate.
Well said.

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