Lawsuit Challenging Virginia's Gay Marriage Ban Heads To Court

Oct 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS Local

Lawyers for the two Shenandoah Valley couples who filed the lawsuit are asking a federal judge to certify the case as a class action representing all same-sex couples in the state.

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Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
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Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
I declare them a class. Low.

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Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
Of course they haven't. That would lead almost immediately to Suspect Classification. Then we'd have the whole ballgame.

They stalled on it because we WERE learning the legal and political ropes, and they were hoping that by the time any of our significant cases reached the highest Court they could point to that acquired acumen and support ... and discount the rest.

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Of course they haven't. That would lead almost immediately to Suspect Classification. Then we'd have the whole ballgame.
They stalled on it because we WERE learning the legal and political ropes, and they were hoping that by the time any of our significant cases reached the highest Court they could point to that acquired acumen and support ... and discount the rest.
In the end it won't really make any difference if we have suspect classification or not.

At this point it's only a matter of when, not if the remaining bans are overturned by the SCOTUS.

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In the end it won't really make any difference if we have suspect classification or not.
At this point it's only a matter of when, not if the remaining bans are overturned by the SCOTUS.
So it would seem, but remember that I'm a stormcrow.

We have yet to see the backlash.

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So it would seem, but remember that I'm a stormcrow.
We have yet to see the backlash.
Obviously you missed the '04 & '06 elections.

That WAS the backlash.

It's over.

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Obviously you missed the '04 & '06 elections.
That WAS the backlash.
It's over.
Wanna lay a friendly bet?

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Wanna lay a friendly bet?
Sure.

You'll have to clarify what your definition of a backlash would be.

My definition would be if any states which currently allow same-sex couples to marry go back to banning them. Or if the anti-gays get Congress to pass the FMA. Or if all those Congressmen who support marriage equality lose their reelection because of that position.

'04 & '06 were definitely backlash elections, especially at the state level.

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Sure.
You'll have to clarify what your definition of a backlash would be.
My definition would be if any states which currently allow same-sex couples to marry go back to banning them. Or if the anti-gays get Congress to pass the FMA. Or if all those Congressmen who support marriage equality lose their reelection because of that position.
'04 & '06 were definitely backlash elections, especially at the state level.
All but the first. It will be a Federal takeover fight with the religious right as shock troop puppets. 2014 will be a HoR groundholding fight and some gains in Senate. The big pushes will be the off-year locals and '14 States where the young do not tend to come out to vote.

'16 is going to be the ugliest ever seen.

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All but the first. It will be a Federal takeover fight with the religious right as shock troop puppets. 2014 will be a HoR groundholding fight and some gains in Senate. The big pushes will be the off-year locals and '14 States where the young do not tend to come out to vote.
'16 is going to be the ugliest ever seen.
I don't see it as a backlash unless we actually lose something as a result.

What do you think we're going to lose?

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