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Gay Teacher Fired for Engagement Sues Catholic School

There are 36 comments on the EDGE story from Jul 11, 2014, titled Gay Teacher Fired for Engagement Sues Catholic School. In it, EDGE reports that:

A former band director and music instructor at a Catholic school in Macon, Ga., has filed a lawsuit against the school this week, claiming gender discrimination, stating he was fired after he revealed he was planning to marry another man, NPR reports .

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Catholic League of Duncey

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jul 11, 2014
I took this directly from www DOT mountdesales DOT net just now:

"Nondiscriminatory Policy

"Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, gender, ancestry, national origin, age, religion, creed, disability, veteran’s status, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, or any other characteristic or status that is protected by federal, state, or local law."

Now that's too easy. It is contractual. In light of this I do not understand why the claim is being made on the comparatively untested grounds of gender. If the school did not (claim to) protect on the basis of sexual orientation then I could understand it.

There must be some legal nuance I am unfamiliar with.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#2 Jul 11, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
I took this directly from www DOT mountdesales DOT net just now:
"Nondiscriminatory Policy
"Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, gender, ancestry, national origin, age, religion, creed, disability, veteran’s status, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, or any other characteristic or status that is protected by federal, state, or local law."
Now that's too easy. It is contractual. In light of this I do not understand why the claim is being made on the comparatively untested grounds of gender. If the school did not (claim to) protect on the basis of sexual orientation then I could understand it.
There must be some legal nuance I am unfamiliar with.
Get a real argument.
Jumper The wise

Morgantown, KY

#3 Jul 11, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
I took this directly from www DOT mountdesales DOT net just now:
"Nondiscriminatory Policy
"Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, gender, ancestry, national origin, age, religion, creed, disability, veteran’s status, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, or any other characteristic or status that is protected by federal, state, or local law."
Now that's too easy. It is contractual. In light of this I do not understand why the claim is being made on the comparatively untested grounds of gender. If the school did not (claim to) protect on the basis of sexual orientation then I could understand it.
There must be some legal nuance I am unfamiliar with.
BULL! You don't know a gd thing about this issue you over sexed pervert!
Catholic League of Duncey

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Jul 11, 2014
Jumper The wise wrote:
<quoted text>BULL! You don't know a gd thing about this issue you over sexed pervert!
Then you can explain what the non discrimination statement on the school's website means, Cletus. Git ur hom skool teechur to rite en esay wifh u.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#5 Jul 11, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
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Then you can explain what the non discrimination statement on the school's website means, Cletus. Git ur hom skool teechur to rite en esay wifh u.
At your ad hominem stage already eh?
Jumper The wise

Morgantown, KY

#6 Jul 11, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
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Then you can explain what the non discrimination statement on the school's website means, Cletus. Git ur hom skool teechur to rite en esay wifh u.
Hey I don't know what your deal is,but I have to work in the morning to help pay for your govenment check.

Good night pokey.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#7 Jul 12, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
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Then you can explain what the non discrimination statement on the school's website means,
Sure. ""Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals"

Once he announced that he was going to marry a same sex person he was no longer qualified.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#8 Jul 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
Sure. ""Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals"
Once he announced that he was going to marry a same sex person he was no longer qualified.
Sorry, kiddo, he was already out at the institution. Either he is fit to teach or he isn't, but his marital status has no bearing upon his fitness unless the institution is hypocritical.

Then again, you've never met a hypocrite you wouldn't defend.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#9 Jul 12, 2014
lides wrote:
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Sorry, kiddo, he was already out at the institution. Either he is fit to teach or he isn't, but his marital status has no bearing upon his fitness unless the institution is hypocritical.
His ability to teach isn't being called into question. His contractual promise to follow the teachings of the church are. He's coming up a Dollar short.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#10 Jul 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
His ability to teach isn't being called into question. His contractual promise to follow the teachings of the church are. He's coming up a Dollar short.
Actually, being that the teacher is suing the school, what is being called into question is the legality of the contractual restriction.

Personally, I don't think you are smart enough to offer a rational defense of the contract, which restricts free speech and free exercise of employees. This is particularly vexing in a case where a homosexual employee has been out at the institution in advance of being fired. If the institution objects to their sexuality, yet tolerates it openly, they will have an uphill legal battle in court. Ultimately, these cases are a loser for the institutions, and will be needlessly expensive. To add insult to injury, in the event the plaintiff wins, thy can also seek to have their legal expenses covered.

Far be it from me to prevent you from defending hypocrites.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#11 Jul 12, 2014
lides wrote:
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1. Actually, being that the teacher is suing the school, what is being called into question is the legality of the contractual restriction.
2. Personally, I don't think you are smart enough to offer a rational defense of the contract, which restricts free speech and free exercise of employees.
3. This is particularly vexing in a case where a homosexual employee has been out at the institution in advance of being fired.
4. If the institution objects to their sexuality, yet tolerates it openly, they will have an uphill legal battle in court. Ultimately, these cases are a loser for the institutions, and will be needlessly expensive. To add insult to injury, in the event the plaintiff wins, thy can also seek to have their legal expenses covered.
5. Far be it from me to prevent you from defending hypocrites.
1. Exactly, and he will lose just like they all did.
2. You problem is, and always has been, that you aren't rational and don't recognize it when you see it.
3. This has already been explained to you. I bet you were 15 before you could recite the alphabet.
4. They don't tolerate living in sin. It would be no different for a straight person that was known to be having pre-marital sex. They would be terminated.
5. I would never defend you.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#12 Jul 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
1. Exactly, and he will lose just like they all did.
It's just like you to offer such an assertion without even offering a basis in support of your opinion.
Wondering wrote:
2. You problem is, and always has been, that you aren't rational and don't recognize it when you see it.
That is one imbecile's opinion. Would you care to substantiate your opinion with a factually based argument?
Wondering wrote:
3. This has already been explained to you. I bet you were 15 before you could recite the alphabet.
So, that's a "no" on offering a factually supported argument?
Wondering wrote:
4. They don't tolerate living in sin. It would be no different for a straight person that was known to be having pre-marital sex. They would be terminated.
Sorry, kiddo, they tolerated an employee who was openly living living a life that was at odds with their beliefs without taking action. The legal question being, why take action now.
Wondering wrote:
5. I would never defend you.
I would never accept an idiot's defense.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#13 Jul 12, 2014
lides wrote:
1. Sorry, kiddo,
2. they tolerated an employee who was openly living living a life that was at odds with their beliefs without taking action.
3. The legal question being, why take action now.
1. I agree, you are sorry.
2. They did not. They hired a man to teach. They had no knowledge of what he did away from the school, until he announced his plans to marry.
3. Now he is living in sin, he violated his contract.

How do you manage on a daily basis? The really easy stuff has you totally baffled. You must have a very simple life.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#14 Jul 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
1. I agree, you are sorry.
In some ways, you are positively child like.
Wondering wrote:
2. They did not. They hired a man to teach. They had no knowledge of what he did away from the school, until he announced his plans to marry.
Sorry, kiddo, he disclosed the fact that he was gay upon hiring. They clearly had no problem with it at that time.
Wondering wrote:
3. Now he is living in sin, he violated his contract.
How do you manage on a daily basis? The really easy stuff has you totally baffled. You must have a very simple life.
Sorry, kiddo, that requires a judgement call, which Christianity reserves for god. So, in judging him, they violate their own standards by committing blasphemy.

Tel me wondering, what is your interest in all things gay? You routinely claim not to care about same sex marriage, but your continual posts and their content tend to indicate to the contrary.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#15 Jul 12, 2014
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
In some ways, you are positively child like.
Oh! Sexy. Are you awed?
KKKafeteria Christianists

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Jul 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure. ""Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals"
Once he announced that he was going to marry a same sex person he was no longer qualified.
Hey pos troll, you quoted selectively. Perhaps you were unable to notice that the bigot school's own website claims it will not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. That is contractual, in fact.

"Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, gender, ancestry, national origin, age, religion, creed, disability, veteran’s status,_sexual orientation_,_gender identity_ or _gender expression_, or any other characteristic or status that is protected by federal, state, or local law."

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17 Jul 12, 2014
Catholic League of Duncey wrote:
I took this directly from www DOT mountdesales DOT net just now:
"Nondiscriminatory Policy
"Mount de Sales Academy is committed to the principles of equal employment opportunities to all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, gender, ancestry, national origin, age, religion, creed, disability, veteran’s status, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, or any other characteristic or status that is protected by federal, state, or local law."
Now that's too easy. It is contractual. In light of this I do not understand why the claim is being made on the comparatively untested grounds of gender. If the school did not (claim to) protect on the basis of sexual orientation then I could understand it.
There must be some legal nuance I am unfamiliar with.
It appears the school violated their own non-discrimination policies. They will have to reinstate, pay back wages plus court costs and attorney fees.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Jul 13, 2014
Julius wrote:
How many little boys did this creep molest?
We didn't know you were a creep; Julius

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#20 Jul 13, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears the school violated their own non-discrimination policies. They will have to reinstate, pay back wages plus court costs and attorney fees.
The best way to deal with the Catholic Church is the way Henry VIII did. Take their money and their property away.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#21 Jul 13, 2014
lides wrote:
1. Sorry, kiddo, he disclosed the fact that he was gay upon hiring. They clearly had no problem with it at that time.
2.that requires a judgement call, which Christianity reserves for god. So, in judging him, they violate their own standards by committing blasphemy.
3. Tel me wondering, what is your interest in all things gay? You routinely claim not to care about same sex marriage, but your continual posts and their content tend to indicate to the contrary.
1. Did he disclose the fact that he was going to marry a same sex partner and violate the terms of his contract?
2. They didn't judge him. They went by the rules they must follow as Catholics.
3. I have no interest in all things gay. I've told you already, at least a hundred times. Are you playing stupid or are you just stupid? I go for the latter. What is your interest in all things gay?

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