Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61390 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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#44363 Apr 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Sex segregation marriage is fin de siecle folly. Sex segregation marriage never existed in written law before Y2K.
Two bald assertions, both predicated upon a term that has no legal existence or socio-anthropological meaning.

Go pester some people who give a crap.

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#44364 Apr 28, 2014
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LOL,
First, YOU are the one trying to equate a rare exception in marriage to lesbian couples (throwing gay couples under the bus in doing so) regarding artificial insemination.
You diverted from the normal and fair comparison between marriage where procreation is the norm, and marrage, where procreation is completely impossible.
However, using your rare exception attempt, you now claim that I am immorally biased because I distinguish between artificial insemination that gives a child a father and mother, and one that gives a child a mother and a step mother while deliberately depriving a child of a father. Something that I not only think should be criminal, but is diabolically evil. It is sad enough when a child loses a father or mother by accident, but to deliberately do so is pure evil.
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Not up on the latest, are ya.

A pair of male stem cells from different donors have been coaxed into forming a viable, replicating blastocyst.

It's been confirmed.

"A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle." - paraphrase of an old feminist joke

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#44366 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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LOL,
First, YOU are the one trying to equate a rare exception in marriage to lesbian couples (throwing gay couples under the bus in doing so) regarding artificial insemination.
You diverted from the normal and fair comparison between marriage where procreation is the norm, and marrage, where procreation is completely impossible.
However, using your rare exception attempt, you now claim that I am immorally biased because I distinguish between artificial insemination that gives a child a father and mother, and one that gives a child a mother and a step mother while deliberately depriving a child of a father. Something that I not only think should be criminal, but is diabolically evil. It is sad enough when a child loses a father or mother by accident, but to deliberately do so is pure evil.
snyper wrote:
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Not up on the latest, are ya.
A pair of male stem cells from different donors have been coaxed into forming a viable, replicating blastocyst.
It's been confirmed.
"A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle." - paraphrase of an old feminist joke
That's been out of the closet for quite some time.

Considered unethical.

Nor does it change what I noted.

Smile.

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#44367 Apr 28, 2014
Bruno wrote:
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It should be dempendent on gender like it has from the begining of time in the U.S. man and woman. However the minority gay cult lifestye managed to threaten the government with law suits and for gay pride down our throats. Gays have beaten down this once great nation. Give you an inch and you take a mile
Give gay men an inch and they will make fun of you mercilessly for the rest of your life.

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#44368 Apr 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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If it feels good DO IT.
Funny thing is there are consequences
I guess you don't realize how stupid that sounds.

Are you implying that gay people live by "if it feels good DO IT?"

If that's the case, what do you think feels so good about gay sex vs. straight sex? Do you think gay sex feels better? Stupid hick.

If that's the case, why do we want to get married? Why don't we just screw? Stupid hick.

And what are the consequences? My life is quite blessed. But you go ahead and find consequences. Good luck.

I am a man approaching my mid-40's who has been married almost 7 years and runs a business. What "feels good" these days is soaking my aching back in the hot tub. What are the consequences, dummy?

You're a mess and a joke. Try getting accurate information instead of just talking stupid. You have no substance. You're just a pest.

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#44369 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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LOL,
First, YOU are the one trying to equate a rare exception in marriage to lesbian couples (throwing gay couples under the bus in doing so) regarding artificial insemination.
You diverted from the normal and fair comparison between marriage where procreation is the norm, and marrage, where procreation is completely impossible.
However, using your rare exception attempt, you now claim that I am immorally biased because I distinguish between artificial insemination that gives a child a father and mother, and one that gives a child a mother and a step mother while deliberately depriving a child of a father. Something that I not only think should be criminal, but is diabolically evil. It is sad enough when a child loses a father or mother by accident, but to deliberately do so is pure evil.
In what way is "rare exception" relevant?

Answer: it is not.

And of two lesbians, neither is a stepmother. They are both mothers.

It's sad that you cling to the propaganda that a child is "deprived" without a father and a mother. You need to believe that so badly so you feel special or something?

Bazillions of kids have grown up without a mother or a father, or without their natural mother or father, or without either their natural mother or father.

If they are thrown to the streets, sure, that could affect them. But if they have one or two loving, competent parents, they have just as much chance of being fine as any other family.

And any other family has just as much chance of being screwed up.

Your arguments are desperate flailing.

You still can't explain the original question. Failure.

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#44370 Apr 28, 2014
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In what way is "rare exception" relevant?
Answer: it is not.
And of two lesbians, neither is a stepmother. They are both mothers.
It's sad that you cling to the propaganda that a child is "deprived" without a father and a mother. You need to believe that so badly so you feel special or something?
Bazillions of kids have grown up without a mother or a father, or without their natural mother or father, or without either their natural mother or father.
If they are thrown to the streets, sure, that could affect them. But if they have one or two loving, competent parents, they have just as much chance of being fine as any other family.
And any other family has just as much chance of being screwed up.
Your arguments are desperate flailing.
You still can't explain the original question. Failure.
Tell that to your mother and father.

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#44371 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Tell that to your mother and father.
Tell that to the other Tranny Trucker Trailer Trash Trolls. It's irrelevant to people in the real world.

SecretSmile, Hunty.

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#44372 Apr 28, 2014
Anny one seen my biatch Frankie?
Bruno

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#44373 Apr 28, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
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This NATION is STILL great and why should I have to marry a man just to follow the cult of heterosexalism? I'm NOT attracted to men and therefore if marriage is TRULY a Fundamental right, then I SHOULD be the one to decide who I want to share my life with, which does include marrying!!!
Guess what Bruno, the Blacks had to do the same thing to get the rights they deserved as well and white folks used the same crap then as folks are using against Gays and Lesbians.......if lawsuits is what it takes to get our rights......then so be it!
Using Blacks to prove your pont is old now. It has nothing to do with SS lifestyles. being black is not the same as SSM

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#44374 Apr 28, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Can't get your mind off of inches being shoved down your throat, can you?
take your mind whats left of it out of the gutter tranny

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#44375 Apr 28, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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This picture of you is hardly porno:
http://www.escapade.co.uk/fun-costumes-sale/b...
Sorry but you won't find my picture anywhere on the internet like your is tranny

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#44376 Apr 28, 2014
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>It's easier to understand Nine Ball than it is to understant you!
Not quite! LOL

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#44377 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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LOL,
First, YOU are the one trying to equate a rare exception in marriage to lesbian couples (throwing gay couples under the bus in doing so) regarding artificial insemination.
You diverted from the normal and fair comparison between marriage where procreation is the norm, and marrage, where procreation is completely impossible.
However, using your rare exception attempt, you now claim that I am immorally biased because I distinguish between artificial insemination that gives a child a father and mother, and one that gives a child a mother and a step mother while deliberately depriving a child of a father. Something that I not only think should be criminal, but is diabolically evil. It is sad enough when a child loses a father or mother by accident, but to deliberately do so is pure evil.
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That's been out of the closet for quite some time.
Considered unethical.
Nor does it change what I noted.
Smile.
You're conflating this latest with the (slightly) older single cell process, which is cloning.

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#44378 Apr 29, 2014
snyper wrote:
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You're conflating this latest with the (slightly) older single cell process, which is cloning.
How does the new process change the result?

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#44379 Apr 29, 2014
I'm simply stating that the reality of a man and woman uniting as one in body, mind and spirit creates the most wonderful, natural relationship in humanity, and results in a fruitfulness nurtured in the best setting for society. A natural, blood kinship that results in the strongest relational bonds society produces. The very human fabric that holds cultures together!

I can't help it if those succinct facts sound like poetry to you. Or that a ss couple cannot rise to that fundamental level of marriage.

I would suggest that ss couples establish their own legitimate relational identity. I am hurt that you appear to reject what I thought was a sensitive concession, by allowing the close wording of 'marrage' as a fair alternative!

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#44380 Apr 29, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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How does the new process change the result?
It's not a clone.

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#44381 Apr 29, 2014
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It's not a clone.
The issue was depriving a child of a mother or father.

You know that.

Why would you deliberately, deceitfully distort such a critical issue for a child???

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#44382 Apr 29, 2014
KiMare wrote:
I'm simply stating that the reality of a man and woman uniting as one in body, mind and spirit creates the most wonderful, natural relationship in humanity, and results in a fruitfulness nurtured in the best setting for society. A natural, blood kinship that results in the strongest relational bonds society produces. The very human fabric that holds cultures together!
I can't help it if those succinct facts sound like poetry to you. Or that a ss couple cannot rise to that fundamental level of marriage.
I would suggest that ss couples establish their own legitimate relational identity. I am hurt that you appear to reject what I thought was a sensitive concession, by allowing the close wording of 'marrage' as a fair alternative!
Opinion and flowery verbiage, none of which is actually relevant. If you like the pretend word "marrage" why don't you adopt it for your relationship?

SecretSmile, Tranny Trucker Trailer Trash.
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#44383 Apr 29, 2014
snyper wrote:
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You're conflating this latest with the (slightly) older single cell process, which is cloning.
While I don't agree that denying a child his genetic parents is pure evil, I do agree that there is a moral question linked to all controlled genetics. By demanding the "right" to engage in artificial methods to fertilize an egg, you immediately slam the door open, never to be closed again, the "right" to genetically engineer on any, any... any-any EVERY level!

The aristocracy NEEDS this. They WILL HAVE IT! Wait and see.. While you seek to shape humanity into worthless saytrs and nimphs, they want workers and soldiers who take orders. This has already been discussed too. Humans aren't a hive species and you weaken the species with your empty rebelliousness.

You are mentally ill. That is not in doubt. But you stand between the mases and the aristocracy and whether you call it God, Karma or simple vengence, it will run its course.

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