Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 60854 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#39888 Mar 30, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Yet there are gay people who oppose redefining marriage, for the same reasons as "straight" people. Not out of hatred, or animosity, but a genuine respect for marriage, and it's public purpose. So are gay people who oppose gay marriage, hateful?
Yep.
Your point?
Pietro Armando wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22758434
After France's first same-sex marriage, and a vote in the UK Parliament which puts England and Wales on course for gay weddings next summer, two US Supreme Court rulings expected soon could hasten the advance of same-sex marriage across the Atlantic. But some gay people remain opposed. Why?
"It's demonstrably not the same as heterosexual marriage - the religious and social significance of a gay wedding ceremony simply isn't the same."
Jonathan Soroff lives in liberal Massachusetts with his male partner, Sam. He doesn't fit the common stereotype of an opponent of gay marriage.
But like half of his friends, he does not believe that couples of the same gender should marry.
Then they don't have to.
Pietro Armando wrote:
"We're not going to procreate as a couple and while the desire to demonstrate commitment might be laudable, the religious traditions that have accommodated same-sex couples have had to do some fairly major contortions," says Soroff.
http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/01/10/in-fra...
In France, anti-gay marriage voices emerge — from gays
JANUARY 10, 2013 BY BOOKWORM 3 COMMENTS
Yesterday, I posted about the differences between gay sex (which is none of my business, so you can do what you like) and gay marriage (which is a significant state institution that cannot be treated in a libertarian way). I was not arguing against gay marriage, per se, although I do have different ideas than most about ways in which committed same-sex partners can confirm their status so as to ensure equal treatment under the law.
Out of France, though, comes a group that is strongly opposed to gay marriage. That’s a dog bites man sentence. What makes it a man bites dog story is the fact that this group is made up of gays, who believe that gay marriage is wrong, that it is at odds with gay culture, and that it is inconsistent with the core nature of marriage:
Don't know about French laws, but in the US, you don't have to be able to procreate in order to marry.

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#39889 Mar 30, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No more than I'm shocked then a straight couple does it.
YOU are the crazy anarchist who thinks people have the right to do whatever they want.
So why didn't the couple have the right to rape their 2 month old son?
Who are you to say they don't have that right?
In 2010, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ran a glowing article,“Two Dads Are Better than One,” about two homosexual men living in Australia who had adopted a baby boy from Russia. The blogger Wintery Knight has the full text of the article, which has allegedly been pulled from the Internet. The piece is similar to countless others about the wonders of homosexual “parenthood” and the deep desire to become “fathers.” The article begins: A shiny child’s bike lies on its side on the front lawn of an immaculate garden.Around the back gay dads Pete and Mark chase their son’s pet chickens around, trying to catch them. Drake, 5, exclaims that the little birds are too fast for him. It’s a happy, relaxed family scene. But it wasn’t an easy road to get there. After many hurdles Drake was born by surrogacy in Russia.
One of the men, the American Mark J. Newton, was sentenced last week in Indiana to 40 years in prison for molesting the child since two weeks after he was born. The couple are believed to have traveled the world, sharing the boy with other pedophiles. Their stash of video material documenting the abuse ultimately led to their arrests. The other man, Peter Truong, who plead guilty, awaits sentencing.
According to the Sidney Morning Herald: Police believe the pair had adopted the boy ‘‘for the sole purpose of exploitation.’’ The abuse began just days after his birth and over six years the couple travelled the world, offering him up for sex with at least eight men, recording the abuse and uploading the footage to an international syndicate known as the Boy Lovers Network.

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#39890 Mar 30, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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It doesn't matter if you don't like it, we're doing it anyways.
Poor old Sheep. You is a sad thang. Why dose you have to make a big stink about your life style. Don't you no that most of us don't give a rat's behind? I nose that you has an inferiority complex. You don't have to feel that way. Thar are a lot of gays and lesbanes what blends in with society and works at a job and goes home to their lover and don't make such a to do about it. You has to tell ever body that you is a man what has a husbane. You has to remind us that you and your so called husbane is both male even when you dose your sex than in a nasty and unnatural way.. You only makes a fool of yourself and hurts the other gays when you squaks and squaks and squaks.

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#39892 Mar 30, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Really? Everyone with a higher IQ than me believes in that deductive fallacy of Flunkie's? I don't think so, Rev. Anal. Try taking a logic class.... oh wait.... I forgot that you are incorrigible and bristle at any attempt at being corrected.
In 2010, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ran a glowing article,“Two Dads Are Better than One,” about two homosexual men living in Australia who had adopted a baby boy from Russia. The blogger Wintery Knight has the full text of the article, which has allegedly been pulled from the Internet. The piece is similar to countless others about the wonders of homosexual “parenthood” and the deep desire to become “fathers.” The article begins: A shiny child’s bike lies on its side on the front lawn of an immaculate garden.Around the back gay dads Pete and Mark chase their son’s pet chickens around, trying to catch them. Drake, 5, exclaims that the little birds are too fast for him. It’s a happy, relaxed family scene. But it wasn’t an easy road to get there. After many hurdles Drake was born by surrogacy in Russia.
One of the men, the American Mark J. Newton, was sentenced last week in Indiana to 40 years in prison for molesting the child since two weeks after he was born. The couple are believed to have traveled the world, sharing the boy with other pedophiles. Their stash of video material documenting the abuse ultimately led to their arrests. The other man, Peter Truong, who plead guilty, awaits sentencing.
According to the Sidney Morning Herald: Police believe the pair had adopted the boy ‘‘for the sole purpose of exploitation.’’ The abuse began just days after his birth and over six years the couple travelled the world, offering him up for sex with at least eight men, recording the abuse and uploading the footage to an international syndicate known as the Boy Lovers Network.

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#39894 Mar 30, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Sorry, Jethro. A bakery doesn't have that right in Colorado. The baker violated the law That makes him a criminal and you wrong. quelle surprise!
The gay couple violated the bakesr right to say no. He didn't serve gay wedding cakes. You are one of the jerks who gets upset when they order a pizza in a Chinese restaurant and they refuse.

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Restaurants don't have to prepare anything that's not on the menu; that's their right. <quoted text>
Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.

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#39895 Mar 30, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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But they ARE like everybody else. That's you you lose in court as well as in life.
Naw they aint. Notice this, I says they is diffarant NOT WORSE OR BAD. Diffarant ain't bad, don't you no. But when you is diffarant you has to do things a little diffarant. A blind man don't need sunglasses and a seeing man needs to turn on the light if he wants to work in his shop at night. I says make it legit for homoesexuals to couple up but just make it a diffarant thang. Better still do away with the word marriage and let them couples call it what ever they likes. But them gays don't like that,which proves that it ain't the rites that they wants. They wants acceptance which for the most part they already got. But all this pushing and mouthing ain't doing nothing but making it worse for the gays and lesbanes who just wants to live their lifes. When it is all said and done they still is homesexuals. They is just drawing attention to what they dose with each other and that helps keep some people again them. You dig?

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#39896 Mar 30, 2014
Message number 8928 on page 412:
cpeter1313 wrote:
Restaurants don't have to prepare anything that's not on the menu; that's their right. <quoted text>
Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.

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#39899 Mar 30, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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In 2010, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ran a glowing article,“Two Dads Are Better than One,” about two homosexual men living in Australia who had adopted a baby boy from Russia. The blogger Wintery Knight has the full text of the article, which has allegedly been pulled from the Internet. The piece is similar to countless others about the wonders of homosexual “parenthood” and the deep desire to become “fathers.” The article begins: A shiny child’s bike lies on its side on the front lawn of an immaculate garden.Around the back gay dads Pete and Mark chase their son’s pet chickens around, trying to catch them. Drake, 5, exclaims that the little birds are too fast for him. It’s a happy, relaxed family scene. But it wasn’t an easy road to get there. After many hurdles Drake was born by surrogacy in Russia.
One of the men, the American Mark J. Newton, was sentenced last week in Indiana to 40 years in prison for molesting the child since two weeks after he was born. The couple are believed to have traveled the world, sharing the boy with other pedophiles. Their stash of video material documenting the abuse ultimately led to their arrests. The other man, Peter Truong, who plead guilty, awaits sentencing.
According to the Sidney Morning Herald: Police believe the pair had adopted the boy ‘‘for the sole purpose of exploitation.’’ The abuse began just days after his birth and over six years the couple travelled the world, offering him up for sex with at least eight men, recording the abuse and uploading the footage to an international syndicate known as the Boy Lovers Network.
Most gays and lesbanes would not molest a child. Their life style could confuse a child and will likely cause the child to be teased at school. He may want to try out tgheir sex thangs when he gits to pubarity. He may not. Commopn sense says that a boy or girls needs both a father and a mother. Two mens can't do it.

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#39901 Mar 30, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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In 2010, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ran a glowing article,“Two Dads Are Better than One,” about two homosexual men living in Australia who had adopted a baby boy from Russia. The blogger Wintery Knight has the full text of the article, which has allegedly been pulled from the Internet. The piece is similar to countless others about the wonders of homosexual “parenthood” and the deep desire to become “fathers.” The article begins: A shiny child’s bike lies on its side on the front lawn of an immaculate garden.Around the back gay dads Pete and Mark chase their son’s pet chickens around, trying to catch them. Drake, 5, exclaims that the little birds are too fast for him. It’s a happy, relaxed family scene. But it wasn’t an easy road to get there. After many hurdles Drake was born by surrogacy in Russia.
One of the men, the American Mark J. Newton, was sentenced last week in Indiana to 40 years in prison for molesting the child since two weeks after he was born. The couple are believed to have traveled the world, sharing the boy with other pedophiles. Their stash of video material documenting the abuse ultimately led to their arrests. The other man, Peter Truong, who plead guilty, awaits sentencing.
According to the Sidney Morning Herald: Police believe the pair had adopted the boy ‘‘for the sole purpose of exploitation.’’ The abuse began just days after his birth and over six years the couple travelled the world, offering him up for sex with at least eight men, recording the abuse and uploading the footage to an international syndicate known as the Boy Lovers Network.
...and you are thinking a non sequitur will establish your intellect?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#39902 Mar 30, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Message number 8928 on page 412: <quoted text>Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.
Bakeries aren't restaurants. That's a different license.
Denver Dan

Sacramento, CA

#39903 Mar 30, 2014
Nine ball wrote:
<quoted text> Don't you git it dangerous dan? It ain't marriage they is after. If that was all I would thank that marriage would be a peach. It comes from a kind of self hating that wants to be thought of as normal and natural. So if a man and woman can marry up they thanks that they should be able to and that would make them the same as ever body else. So they rants and raves and screems rites and says that ever body is picking on them. By doing all that stuff they is drawing attention to theirselves. Ever one of us is diffarant. Diffarant strokes for diffarant folks I says. Gays should accept theirselves for what they is and git on with their lives. They don't no that people relly don't care. When this marriage thang is legit all over then they will start on something else. Religious people will be forced to do business with them even though it is again heir religion. Not only can army gays tell ever body but the army will have to build housing so that they can sleep together. Teachers and school books will push the gay life style. Them thangs are coming. They homeysexuals hope that by the end of their push they will be thought of the same as other people. They ain't.
LOL!!

I've got to wonder if you're for real.

Homosexuals have been with us since the dawn of humanity friend.

If you don't worry about it it will be a non-issue. Trust me.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#39904 Mar 30, 2014
Nine ball wrote:
<quoted text> Naw they aint. Notice this, I says they is diffarant NOT WORSE OR BAD. Diffarant ain't bad, don't you no. But when you is diffarant you has to do things a little diffarant. A blind man don't need sunglasses and a seeing man needs to turn on the light if he wants to work in his shop at night. I says make it legit for homoesexuals to couple up but just make it a diffarant thang. Better still do away with the word marriage and let them couples call it what ever they likes. But them gays don't like that,which proves that it ain't the rites that they wants. They wants acceptance which for the most part they already got. But all this pushing and mouthing ain't doing nothing but making it worse for the gays and lesbanes who just wants to live their lifes. When it is all said and done they still is homesexuals. They is just drawing attention to what they dose with each other and that helps keep some people again them. You dig?
I'm sure you missed this along your way....

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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#39905 Mar 30, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Bakeries aren't restaurants. That's a different license.
A distinction that makes no difference. The gay's violated the Bakers rights and that makes them bad people. You support their decision and that makes you wrong too.

Message number 8928 on page 412:
cpeter1313 wrote:
Restaurants don't have to prepare anything that's not on the menu; that's their right. <quoted text>
Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.

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#39906 Mar 30, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Bakeries aren't restaurants. That's a different license.
Eighteen wheelers are not minivans, that's a different license, but they both drive down the same road.

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#39907 Mar 30, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The gay couple violated the bakesr right to say no. He didn't serve gay wedding cakes. You are one of the jerks who gets upset when they order a pizza in a Chinese restaurant and they refuse.
Message number 8928 on page 412: <quoted text>Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.
But the baker SAID "no," you moron. He admitted it in court, you moron.

Is Straw men all you have Rev. Anal? MENSA my ass.

“THE JOURNEY OF A 1000 MILES”

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#39908 Mar 30, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Yet there are gay people who oppose redefining marriage, for the same reasons as "straight" people.
Okay, that's their RIGHT.......but that DOESN'T mean they GET to prevent others from having the right to marry the person of their choosing regardless of gender make-up!!

I had a high school friend and his partner who attended our wedding, they AREN'T into marrying, but they were very happy for us and celebrated our special day with us:-)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39909 Mar 30, 2014
Nine ball wrote:
<quoted text> Poor old Sheep. You is a sad thang. Why dose you have to make a big stink about your life style. Don't you no that most of us don't give a rat's behind? I nose that you has an inferiority complex. You don't have to feel that way. Thar are a lot of gays and lesbanes what blends in with society and works at a job and goes home to their lover and don't make such a to do about it. You has to tell ever body that you is a man what has a husbane. You has to remind us that you and your so called husbane is both male even when you dose your sex than in a nasty and unnatural way.. You only makes a fool of yourself and hurts the other gays when you squaks and squaks and squaks.
I don't make any bigger "stink" about it than the average straight person.

Your approval is neither required nor desired.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39910 Mar 30, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The gay couple violated the bakesr right to say no. He didn't serve gay wedding cakes. You are one of the jerks who gets upset when they order a pizza in a Chinese restaurant and they refuse.
Message number 8928 on page 412: <quoted text>Gay wedding cakes are not on the bakers menu.
They didn't try to buy a gay wedding cake,

They just tried to buy a wedding cake, which the baker DOES make.

You lose, AGAIN.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39911 Mar 30, 2014
Nine ball wrote:
<quoted text> Naw they aint. Notice this, I says they is diffarant NOT WORSE OR BAD. Diffarant ain't bad, don't you no. But when you is diffarant you has to do things a little diffarant. A blind man don't need sunglasses and a seeing man needs to turn on the light if he wants to work in his shop at night. I says make it legit for homoesexuals to couple up but just make it a diffarant thang. Better still do away with the word marriage and let them couples call it what ever they likes. But them gays don't like that,which proves that it ain't the rites that they wants. They wants acceptance which for the most part they already got. But all this pushing and mouthing ain't doing nothing but making it worse for the gays and lesbanes who just wants to live their lifes. When it is all said and done they still is homesexuals. They is just drawing attention to what they dose with each other and that helps keep some people again them. You dig?
What we like to call it is marriage, which is why we got married.

What you call it makes no difference.

You dig?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39912 Mar 30, 2014
Nine ball wrote:
<quoted text> Most gays and lesbanes would not molest a child. Their life style could confuse a child and will likely cause the child to be teased at school. He may want to try out tgheir sex thangs when he gits to pubarity. He may not. Commopn sense says that a boy or girls needs both a father and a mother. Two mens can't do it.
And yet we do it anyway, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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