Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61393 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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#35862 Mar 14, 2014
Pattysboi wrote:
fr Charlie Feather:
>Gays are changing the culture. They are perverting it. I think it's because I don't want to live in Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah! That's it.<
You can't live in the aforementioned cities, because they were destroyed back in the Old Testament because of inhospitality to strangers. Please go back and re-read your Bible.
- Yeah! I would saying trying to rape men is pretty inhospitable!

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#35863 Mar 14, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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That's me beating up Rose.
Why?for fun? Does she enjoy it?

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#35864 Mar 14, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
Really, when homos refer to their husbands or their wives, I have no idea what they're speaking of.
All this proves is that you really are an IDIOT........because you CAN'T be that ignorant or naive!!!

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#35865 Mar 14, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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No, actually you are wrong. The burden is on the plaintiff.
Let me quote the citation:
"Under rational basis review plaintiffs have the burden of proving that the classification drawn by the law is not rationally related to a legitimate state interest. DeYoung v. Providence Med. Ctr., 136 Wn.2d 136, 144, 960 P.2d 919 (1998)."
Well, guess what Tickle My Feather......the plaintiffs have PROVEN their cases.....that's why the Judge's have been RULING in their favor!!!

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#35866 Mar 15, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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Husband doesn't mean "married man." It means a man married to a woman.
Interesting because according to the definition from Merriam Webster......it doesn't necessarily state just to a woman......here ya go:
hus·band noun \&#712;h&#601;z-b& #601;nd\
: a married man : the man someone is married to
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hus...

Another definition from a different dictionary:
husband &#8194;
Use Husband in a sentence
hus·band [huhz-buhnd] Show IPA
noun
1. a married man, especially when considered in relation to his partner in marriage.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/husban...

Yet another dictionary:
hus·band (h&#365;z&#8242;b& #601;nd)
n.
1. A man joined to a another person in marriage; a male spouse.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband

A little Word History: The English word husband, even though it is a basic kinship term, is not a native English word. It comes ultimately from the Old Norse word h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, meaning "master of a house," which was borrowed into Old English as h&#363;sb&#333;nda. The second element in h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, b&#333;ndi, means "a man who has land and stock" and comes from the Old Norse verb b&#363;a, meaning "to live, dwell, have a household." The master of the house was usually a spouse as well, of course, and it would seem that the main modern sense of husband arises from this overlap. When the Norsemen settled in Anglo-Saxon England, they would often take Anglo-Saxon women as their wives; it was then natural to refer to the husband using the Norse word for the concept, and to refer to the wife with her Anglo-Saxon (Old English) designation, w&#299;f, "woman, wife" (Modern English wife). Interestingly, Old English did have a feminine word related to Old Norse h&#363;sb&#333;ndi that meant "mistress of a house," namely, h&#363;sbonde. Had this word survived into Modern English, it would have sounded identical to husband—surely leading to ambiguities.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband

See, it might have had a SPECIFIC meaning as regarding to being married to a woman at one time, but today, the meaning is basically that of being married regardless of the gender of the spouse!!!

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#35867 Mar 15, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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...and now Tennessee joins the States that recognize gay marriage.
Geez, Peter. Ya think the courts know something you don't?
And ss couples are still only ever mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered halves of marriage.

Apparently the courts don't know about reality.

Smirk.

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#35868 Mar 15, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>The government allows it to continue? Helloooo.... no it doesn't. Ploygamy is illegal. The government moves against polygamous religious cults every few years and it's ALWAYS about child endangerment.
It's not 'my' claim. It is a claim made by experts in the field, and I agree with the experts. They have the data. and not some Pollyanna, kumbaya emotional argument of "equality for everyone."
According to you, procreation cannot be considered to justify including ss couples.

But it can be considered for polygamy?

Love that 'rational atheist' oxymoron logic...

Snicker.

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#35869 Mar 15, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
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Interesting because according to the definition from Merriam Webster......it doesn't necessarily state just to a woman......here ya go:
hus·band noun \&#712;h&#601;z-b& #601;nd\
: a married man : the man someone is married to
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hus...
Another definition from a different dictionary:
husband &#8194;
Use Husband in a sentence
hus·band [huhz-buhnd] Show IPA
noun
1. a married man, especially when considered in relation to his partner in marriage.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/husban...
Yet another dictionary:
hus·band (h&#365;z&#8242;b& #601;nd)
n.
1. A man joined to a another person in marriage; a male spouse.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband
A little Word History: The English word husband, even though it is a basic kinship term, is not a native English word. It comes ultimately from the Old Norse word h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, meaning "master of a house," which was borrowed into Old English as h&#363;sb&#333;nda. The second element in h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, b&#333;ndi, means "a man who has land and stock" and comes from the Old Norse verb b&#363;a, meaning "to live, dwell, have a household." The master of the house was usually a spouse as well, of course, and it would seem that the main modern sense of husband arises from this overlap. When the Norsemen settled in Anglo-Saxon England, they would often take Anglo-Saxon women as their wives; it was then natural to refer to the husband using the Norse word for the concept, and to refer to the wife with her Anglo-Saxon (Old English) designation, w&#299;f, "woman, wife" (Modern English wife). Interestingly, Old English did have a feminine word related to Old Norse h&#363;sb&#333;ndi that meant "mistress of a house," namely, h&#363;sbonde. Had this word survived into Modern English, it would have sounded identical to husband—surely leading to ambiguities.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband
See, it might have had a SPECIFIC meaning as regarding to being married to a woman at one time, but today, the meaning is basically that of being married regardless of the gender of the spouse!!!
Scientifically speaking, ss marriage is an oxymoron.

Applying words falsely to a fraudulent marriage won't change reality.

Smile.

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#35870 Mar 15, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Scientifically speaking, ss marriage is an oxymoron.
Applying words falsely to a fraudulent marriage won't change reality.
Smile.
Scientifically speaking, you're an oxymoron. And a moron.

Has your "science" been able to negate the legal status of my marriage?

Didn't think so.

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#35871 Mar 15, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Scientifically speaking, you're an oxymoron. And a moron.
Has your "science" been able to negate the legal status of my marriage?
Didn't think so.
Didn't try to.

Just pointing out that your relationship is only ever a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.

Did your mutated legal farce change that?

Smile.

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#35872 Mar 15, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
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More repeated garbage from the man who does it best......lol!!!
More peanut butter from the peanut gallery
Exactly Pete, if one wants to marry then they should follow the marital requirements set by the State
So far so good....
and if the State has a discriminatory requirement in place, then the person should challenge it in Court by a lawsuit,
What requirement, other than age of consent and being able to consent, is not "discriminatory"?
which is what has been happening and the State has NOT been able to show a compelling reason to deny the right to marry to Gays and Lesbians who want to marry someone of the Same gender as themselves!!!
Actually states have, but some federal judges have taken it upon themselves to not only legislate from the bench, but dictate state marriage policy!
Tell me something Pete, why should the State designate a man and woman's sexual relationship a marriage? Is it simply because they applied for a marriage license? or is it based on them being the opposite-sex?
Both.
See, just because a couple is made up of a man and a woman DOESN'T mean the State is going to just designate their sexual relationship a marriage, nor should the state do so UNLESS a marriage license was applied for, the couple actually got married and their marriage license was filed with the County Clerk's office!!!
Uhhhhhhh......hellllllloooooo. ....that's obvious. The man and the woman must want to marry, and have the state designate as such. In previous times, if a couple met certain criteria, including presenting themselves as 'husband and wife' to the public, they would be considered common law married.
Gee, Pete.....I married someone who gave consent, was of legal age to consent,
Necessary basic requirements
not too closely related by blood,
Discriminatory, even more so if the two individuals are of the same sex.
not currently married
Another form of discrimination.
and DIDN'T have to be of the OPPOSITE-SEX........and guess what....her GENDER was perfect for me and my GENDER was perfect for her:-)
Wonderful. Where are the ex husbands?
Admit what Pete, that marriage MUST remain your definition in order for it to be a legal marriage under the eyes according to Pete...
According to several states actually.
...sorry, but your viewpoint on marriage may NOT change, but the definition of marriage is becoming more INCLUSIVE and yes,
(Chuckling) I know....I know...we become more "INCLUSIVE"....by excluding.

http://preaprez.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/b...
Pete...one day polygamy may be legal, but NOT until a lawsuit is filed to overturn Reynolds vs The United States!!!
It will be if marriage is to more "INCLUSIVE".....afte r all "discrimination" will not, nor cannot, be tolerated! If the state rejects conjugality because it's "discriminatory", it can't justify further discrimination by maintaining monogamy, and consanguinity.

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#35873 Mar 15, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting because according to the definition from Merriam Webster......it doesn't necessarily state just to a woman......here ya go:
hus·band noun \&#712;h&#601;z-b& #601;nd\
: a married man : the man someone is married to
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hus...
Another definition from a different dictionary:
husband &#8194;
Use Husband in a sentence
hus·band [huhz-buhnd] Show IPA
noun
1. a married man, especially when considered in relation to his partner in marriage.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/husban...
Yet another dictionary:
hus·band (h&#365;z&#8242;b& #601;nd)
n.
1. A man joined to a another person in marriage; a male spouse.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband
A little Word History: The English word husband, even though it is a basic kinship term, is not a native English word. It comes ultimately from the Old Norse word h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, meaning "master of a house," which was borrowed into Old English as h&#363;sb&#333;nda. The second element in h&#363;sb&#333;ndi, b&#333;ndi, means "a man who has land and stock" and comes from the Old Norse verb b&#363;a, meaning "to live, dwell, have a household." The master of the house was usually a spouse as well, of course, and it would seem that the main modern sense of husband arises from this overlap. When the Norsemen settled in Anglo-Saxon England, they would often take Anglo-Saxon women as their wives; it was then natural to refer to the husband using the Norse word for the concept, and to refer to the wife with her Anglo-Saxon (Old English) designation, w&#299;f, "woman, wife" (Modern English wife). Interestingly, Old English did have a feminine word related to Old Norse h&#363;sb&#333;ndi that meant "mistress of a house," namely, h&#363;sbonde. Had this word survived into Modern English, it would have sounded identical to husband—surely leading to ambiguities.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husband
See, it might have had a SPECIFIC meaning as regarding to being married to a woman at one time, but today, the meaning is basically that of being married regardless of the gender of the spouse!!!
Gee you must be Greek, from the isle of Lesbos.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lesbia...

Les·bi·an [lez-bee-uhn] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of or pertaining to Lesbos.
2.
( usually lowercase ) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of female homosexuality.
3.
( usually lowercase ) erotic; sensual.
noun
4.
an inhabitant of Lesbos.
5.
( usually lowercase ) a female homosexual.
Origin:
1595–1605; < Latin Lesbi ( us ) Lesbian (< Greek Lésbios, equivalent to Lésb ( os ) Lesbos +-ios adj. suffix)+-an; (defs 2, 5) alluding to the poet Sappho of Lesbos, whose verse deals largely with her emotional relationships with other women
poof

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#35874 Mar 15, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yeah but why can't three adult gay men marry?
Polygamy is illegal.

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#35875 Mar 15, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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How does it feel knowing you've lost the fight to ban same-sex couples from marrying?
How does it feel knowing polygamy was decriminalized, and will eventually be legally recognized as same sex marriage is?

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#35876 Mar 15, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Have fun trying to get incest marriages legalized.
Good luck with that.
Oh so you advocate discrimination? As long as it's not directed at you, right?

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#35877 Mar 15, 2014
poof wrote:
<quoted text>Polygamy is illegal.
It's legal, just not legally licensed as such.

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#35878 Mar 15, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The state legally defines marriage in civil law.
Yes it does.
Does the state legally defines what's an apple or an orange or a citrus fruit?
No, but it could.
poof

Madison, WI

#35879 Mar 15, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No one does. He lost any credibility with his insistence that consenting adults shouldn't be allowed to marry because they are non consenting children.
liar
poof

Madison, WI

#35880 Mar 15, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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How does it feel knowing polygamy was decriminalized, and will eventually be legally recognized as same sex marriage is?
in which state?
poof

Madison, WI

#35881 Mar 15, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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It's legal, just not legally licensed as such.
really, name the state

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