Gay 'marriage' has unintended consequences

[Publius2]

gemelk wrote:

How is it that WE homosexuals are always the ones required to do the "changing"?!?

Homosexuality is deviance since the normal male anatomy is designed differently from the female anatomy. Only an utterly foolish or senseless person (idiot) can't understand that. Besides, it's the homosexual who has changed (the normal use of their body) to the abnormal or deviant use of their body. In other words gemelk, you've already changed if you're gay.

[Robert In West Hollywood]

Publius2 wrote:

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Homosexuality is deviance since the normal male anatomy is designed differently from the female anatomy. Only an utterly foolish or senseless person (idiot) can't understand that. Besides, it's the homosexual who has changed (the normal use of their body) to the abnormal or deviant use of their body. In other words gemelk, you've already changed if you're gay.

What a load of bullshit. Do you really sit up at night thinking this crap up on your own or do you just cut and paste your tripe from other sources like another nut job who posts on these forums?

[Publius2]

Morph wrote:

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Interesting article to read, as printed in the LA Times.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/ca...
seems a majority, albeit slim, does approve of gay marriage....

Wouldn't be the first time the LA Times was 180 degrees off course!

[Publius2]

Robert In West Hollywood wrote:

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What a load of bullshit. Do you really sit up at night thinking this crap up on your own or do you just cut and paste your tripe from other sources like another nut job who posts on these forums?

What's the matter, truth hurts? If the shoe fits - wear it!

[Steve Vandervort]

This bears repeating since the hate mongers seam to have ignored the message.

But before I repeat myself, let's step back and look at the balance sheet.

Those who support same-sex marraige are loving, tolerant folks who seam to accept their neighbor.
Those who would deny same-sex marraige are hateful, intolerant bigots who are cut from the same cloth of sinners that denied multi-racial marraiges.

You decide which party Jesus would turn water into wine for.

"Government should not be in the business of defining religious sacraments. If your church/temple/sect/cult wants to define who can marry and who can't, fine. But my government has the obligation, and duty to treat all citizens as equals.

To let our government dictate religion is a constitutional abomination.

The government should sanction domestic unions for all partners. Let the religious establishments define marriage.

It's the American way."

God Bless

[Robert In West Hollywood]

Publius2 wrote:

<quoted text>What's the matter, truth hurts? If the shoe fits - wear it!

Truth? What truth? Your ignorant take on truth? Thanks, I needed a good laugh this evening...

[Morph]

Publius2 wrote:

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Wouldn't be the first time the LA Times was 180 degrees off course!

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/i...

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_99...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1216405879902...

Oh yes, seems like they are 180 from everyone else, but then reuters is, and San Jose Mercury News, and the Wall Street Journal. Those are all radical left wing rags, right?

[gemelk]

Roberto wrote:

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Do you know where the California Supreme Court is located?
Yeah! Right downtown in Civiv Center in SAN FRANCISCO!
And you don't think that these judges don't know the local politicians, the mayor, the administrators, the business people and leaders of PACs and everyone else that hangs out around politics?
And gays are EVERYWHERE! In all segments and levels of society in San Francisco, that it would have been impossible for these judges to have not known and socialized with them, and even be friends with them.
So whom would their sympathies have been with? By Chief Justice Ronald George's own admission, he was moved by the sight of gays lining up for gay marriage when Mayor Gavin Newsom was handing out marriage licenses back in 2004.
Yeah! Their minds were corrupted.

Yes, we gays are everywhere, one of us even worked for (right hand man) Jerry Falwell. We still love the Rev. Mel White, gay!

You know Roberto, this rant makes you look very foolish. Your post would have us believe that these judges got into their position by not being just, fair and accurately applying the law! That is simply ludicrous!

Location is not relevent either because these are the same justices, that told Gavin Newsom, Mayor of San Francisco that he was NOT legally authorized to perform same-sex marriages in 2004 and overturned every single one of them!

Your premise of "corruption" does not stand in the light of FACT.

Eric

[Psy]

Publius2 wrote:

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Homosexuality is deviance since the normal male anatomy is designed differently from the female anatomy. Only an utterly foolish or senseless person (idiot) can't understand that. Besides, it's the homosexual who has changed (the normal use of their body) to the abnormal or deviant use of their body. In other words gemelk, you've already changed if you're gay.

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You are arguing about human adaptive behavior. Even if it were indeed established that homosexuality was not part of originally adaptive behavior, It is hard to see how that conclusion alone could institute the abnormality of homosexuality because there is neither an assertion that natural selection has any kind of ultimate normative force nor an assertion that human beings are bound to continue to be the kind of things that cosmic accident brought them to be. Without a logically previous or controlling assertion that patterns of adaptive success possess ultimate, normative, force, then it seems that human beings are completely free to organize and manage their work, their behavior, and even such things as their anatomy and physiology as they see fit.
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[Morph]

Psy wrote:

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You are arguing about human adaptive behavior. Even if it were indeed established that homosexuality was not part of originally adaptive behavior, It is hard to see how that conclusion alone could institute the abnormality of homosexuality because there is neither an assertion that natural selection has any kind of ultimate normative force nor an assertion that human beings are bound to continue to be the kind of things that cosmic accident brought them to be. Without a logically previous or controlling assertion that patterns of adaptive success possess ultimate, normative, force, then it seems that human beings are completely free to organize and manage their work, their behavior, and even such things as their anatomy and physiology as they see fit.
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I think I just fell in love with your intellect.....

[To Brian in DeSabla]

Brian in DeSabla wrote:

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U.S. Government; A Government,
FOR THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE & BY THE PEOPLE.
Be very careful giving this much power to four judges. It will bite you on the hind side.
There is not one, no not one state that has had gay marriage approved by the voters in any vote. Not one!!!
So how you can say that a state constitution backs these four, 4, judges is ludicrous.
Be careful Eric.
I never threatend fuzi, It's called Satire.

Hi Brian. Admire your fortitude in sharing
the gospel on this thread with dying souls who
don't like much of what you say because you are
telling the truth. As you pointed out in another
blog, they hated Jesus, and they will hate those
who follow him too. That's true. But your post
here stood out because you are claiming that
judicial tyranny was the cause of the whole issue
of the gay marriage being legalized. Can you
elaborate on that? And also wondering where you
are stationed as an officer. Am a Christian too.

[fuzi]

To Brian in DeSabla wrote:

<quoted text>Hi Brian. Admire your fortitude in sharing
the gospel on this thread with dying souls who
don't like much of what you say because you are
telling the truth. As you pointed out in another
blog, they hated Jesus, and they will hate those
who follow him too. That's true. But your post
here stood out because you are claiming that
judicial tyranny was the cause of the whole issue
of the gay marriage being legalized. Can you
elaborate on that? And also wondering where you
are stationed as an officer. Am a Christian too.

Go shove your bible up your a**. I'm sick of you pigs trying to shove your perverted religion on everyone else. Your days of getting away with that are nearing an end. Good riddance.

[Publius2]

fuzi wrote:

<quoted text>Go shove your bible up your a**. I'm sick of you pigs trying to shove your perverted religion on everyone else. Your days of getting away with that are nearing an end. Good riddance.

Spoken like the truly ignorant anti-Christian bigot you are!

[Past Paradisian]

Publius2 wrote:

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Homosexuality is deviance since the normal male anatomy is designed differently from the female anatomy. Only an utterly foolish or senseless person (idiot) can't understand that. Besides, it's the homosexual who has changed (the normal use of their body) to the abnormal or deviant use of their body. In other words gemelk, you've already changed if you're gay.

Ah...I believe I see part of the problem here!!! While those of us on the side of same-sex marriage are only trying to change the way the opposers FEEL/THINK. The opposers are thinking that we are trying to change the way they ACT (as in, become homosexual). At least, that's the way this last post comes across (which of course, is NOT the case!!!).....

[Past Paradisian]

Steve Vandervort wrote:

This bears repeating since the hate mongers seam to have ignored the message.
But before I repeat myself, let's step back and look at the balance sheet.
Those who support same-sex marraige are loving, tolerant folks who seam to accept their neighbor.
Those who would deny same-sex marraige are hateful, intolerant bigots who are cut from the same cloth of sinners that denied multi-racial marraiges.
You decide which party Jesus would turn water into wine for.
"Government should not be in the business of defining religious sacraments. If your church/temple/sect/cult wants to define who can marry and who can't, fine. But my government has the obligation, and duty to treat all citizens as equals.
To let our government dictate religion is a constitutional abomination.
The government should sanction domestic unions for all partners. Let the religious establishments define marriage.
It's the American way."
God Bless

That is exactly it!!!!!
Plus, what I said earlier about the understanding of the "true" argument here......
(We, loving tolerant folks, are NOT trying to sway anyone to actually BECOME gay!!! Just try to understand that equality is what's necessary here!)

[Pagan and Proud]

franklin wrote:

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The ridiculous political

Spam and lies reported.

[Andrea J]

I read this post the other day. It is a very insightful memoir, a REAL story from a gay married persons perspective. Check it out

http://toptopix.blogspot.com/

maybe people will get a better idea what being gay and married is like.

[gemelk]

Publius2 wrote:

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Spoken like the truly ignorant anti-Christian bigot you are!

Given the persecution at the hands of Christians, do you wonder why? If you don't, you should!

Ask yourself why there is so much anger against (so-called) "christians"!

Do you have the fortitude to use all the energy you pour into anti-gay posts to realistically look at the other side of the issue?

Will you dare to focus that intellect to attempt to see homosexuals as human first?

Only one thing makes us different from one another, the gender of who we love. Beyond that, nothing separates us on a human level.

Personally I think you'd find that a great many homosexuals are deeply religious and spiritual people. This in spite of the fact and history that religion has done their best to demonize us, villify us, even incite violence against us.

Think about it.

Eric

[Andrea J]

franklin wrote:

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The ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" remains exposed as the fraud that it is.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive
relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be "GLBT" anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging.

I HATE to be redundant but you REALLY need to see another persons perspective......

http://toptopix.blogspot.com/

[Gary]

franklin wrote:

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The ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" remains exposed as the fraud that it is.

Where do you get your Statics from man?

WAIT!!! Let me guess...... you church? Your ass?(they are one and the same)

Morons do exist...sorry to say