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Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?

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#200
Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
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LOL... again, you can keep your references -- because this whole Canadian census discussion is IRRELEVANT,
Really? It was relevant enough for you to start harping on it. I don't much care one way or the other, it's just fun pointing out your many errors.
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<quoted text>because it cannot prove the very point that Pagan and Proud raised it for, namely, to prove that the Canadian percentage of homosexual population is representative of the AMERICAN percentage of homosexual population!
Why not? Do you have some evidence that suggests sexuality differs across the Canadian border?
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Jan 13, 2008
 
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... Do you have some evidence that suggests sexuality differs across the Canadian border?
LOL, what matters is whether YOU have evidence that proves that the percentage of the homosexual population is the SAME across the Canadian border -- which, of course, you DON'T, or else you would have presented it.

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#202
Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
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LOL. Your questions can't be directly answered as asked, because:
1) Not ALL human homosexuality is learned behavior.
There is no SINGLE pathway or mechanism that leads to the endstate of human homosexuality.
(For example, genetic studies strongly suggest that male homosexuality has a different pathway or mechanism than female homosexuality.)
2) Homosexuality is a behavior and is not the same thing as a sexual orientation.(This should be obvious, since some people have sexual orientations that are NOT homosexual orientations and since some native cultures have been known to engage in prepubertal homosexual behavior and yet maintain a postpubertal heterosexual sexual orientation and behavior.)
3) Sexual orientation has not been proven to be "inorn" or even "inborn".(Indeed, given the example just mentioned of native cultures, it is obvious that CULTURE can influence both sexual orientation AND sexual behavior. Cultural influences are an environmental factor -- there likely are epigenetic influences as well on sexual orientation and sexual behavior.)
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Your question conflates sexual orientation and homosexual behavior -- as I said above, they are two different things and need to be addressed separately.
So, REPHRASE your question.
Homosexuality is one of many possible sexual orientations, they are all inborn. I am proof of that, you fool.

You continue to insist that my orientation AND my behavior are both learned, so please inform me: If I had no homosexual role models until after I realized that I was homosexual, then from whom did I learn my orientation and behavior, as you continue to insist I must have done. It is a very clear concise question and one that refers to all of your previous posts on this thread, so by claiming you don't understand the questionand refusing to answer it, you are successfully implying that you have no answer.

And to what do you refer when you say "behavior?" Do you mean that homosexuals have sex with people of the same sex because they're homosexual? Isn't that a tautology, or some such other obvious logic? Of course homosexuals sleep with people of the smae sex, that's who they are attracted to. Why do you keep twisting words and using faulty logic to prove a point that even you have lost sight of?

And frankly, until I have proof that sexual orientation is NOT inborn, proof that you have consistently failed to deliver, I will continue to believe in my OWN life experience; to wit, it IS inborn, you moron! I am LIVING proof of that!

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Will wrote:
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LOL... again, you can keep your references -- because this whole Canadian census discussion is IRRELEVANT, because it cannot prove the very point that Pagan and Proud raised it for, namely, to prove that the Canadian percentage of homosexual population is representative of the AMERICAN percentage of homosexual population!
Whatever the Canadian percentage is, it CANNOT prove that America is, percentage-wise, AS GAY as Canada!
LOL, so what's your NEXT red herring?
\just like you to bring up a point, beat it until it's dead and then call it irrelevant! LOL

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#204
Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
LOL.
TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
LOL, asked and answered. You are now sentenced to 1 day in solitary confinement for each time you repeat your question.

Oh, that probably won't bother you at all, you must spend most of your time alone anyway!LMAO
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Jan 13, 2008
 
LOL.

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Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
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LOL, what matters is whether YOU have evidence that proves that the percentage of the homosexual population is the SAME across the Canadian border -- which, of course, you DON'T, or else you would have presented it.
Why would I need such a thing? I simply pointed out the error in your post, in which you stated that the Canadian census didn't count gay Canadians. That was completely false. Whether the Canadian census is at all applicable to other populations is a separate issue. One which you only brought up after being proven wrong. Why?

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Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
LOL.
TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
Answered.
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Jan 13, 2008
 
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Why would I need such a thing? I simply pointed out the error in your post, in which you stated that the Canadian census didn't count gay Canadians. That was completely false. Whether the Canadian census is at all applicable to other populations is a separate issue. One which you only brought up after being proven wrong. Why?
You're making yourself and your fellow girlyboys look pretty foolish with such illogic.
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Jan 13, 2008
 
LOL.

A review of the record shows that Pagan and Proud was the one who brought up the bogus "currently accepted statistics" regarding a census of 8.1% of the Canadian population being gay:

On January 8th, I wrote ---
Will wrote:
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Thus,[citing Charlotte Patterson, Ph.D] if there is a 1%- 2% gay male population and 9% of sons of gay fathers are gay, then sons of gay fathers are 4 ½ times more likely to be gay than the male gay population, and if there is a 5% gay male population rate, then sons of gay fathers are almost TWICE as likely to be gay than the male gay population.
...to which Paga and Proud replied on January 8th ---
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<quoted text>And There's where your "ahem" error lies, an attempt to manipulate the data on intentionally misrepresented statistics. Sorry, it makes your entire supposition doodoo.(especially considering your well known anti-gay stances)
Current accepted statistics coming from the Canadian Census puts the number of homosexuals at about 8.1%, there is little reason to think that the percentages would vary greatly between the US and Canada.
LOL...actually, as I've pointed out, "there is little reason to think that the percentages" would be THE SAME "between the US and Canada"!

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Jan 13, 2008
 
Will wrote:
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LOL, what matters is whether YOU have evidence that proves that the percentage of the homosexual population is the SAME across the Canadian border -- which, of course, you DON'T, or else you would have presented it.
Not necessarily. But given your failure to grasp the rudiments of logical thought, well, its to be expected.

One day you will stop leaping to unfounded conclusions.

At the rate you are going, I suspect it will be your final one.
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#213
Jan 14, 2008
 
LOL.

Back to the TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
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#214
Jan 14, 2008
 
Will wrote:
LOL.
Back to the TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
asked and answered, moron.
ALL kids learn by example.
They don't TURN gay
because they have gay parents.
Straight parents produce
gay kids.
Now, go get a life and
stop obsessing on gays.
You are a hatemonger
looking for reasons to hate.
You should only hate someone
for being an a-hole. Like
how I think I hate you:)
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Jan 14, 2008
 
LOL.

Back at you squared, Sandy.

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#217
Jan 14, 2008
 
Will wrote:
LOL.
Back to the TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
Here's a response for you. Yes and they will hopefully learn from the experience is what it means to be a homosexual in a strong, loving, caring, supportive and nurturing relationship and that they are taught that this works for heterosexuals as well. Just as the children of heterosexual parents will hopefully learn from the experience is what it means to be a heterosexual in a strong, loving, caring, supportive and nurturing relationship and they are taught that this works for homosexuals as well. The reality is that we all want the same thing for future generations of children and that is a strong, loving, caring, supportive and nurturing family environment and despite your beliefs on the subject Will, that can come from either homosexual or heterosexual parents. In the real world not all families gay or straight, will be perfect, good or even acceptable and everything should be in what is the best interest of the children that are brought into the world and the sexual orientation of the parents is neither right or wrong in and of itself but a neutral concept unless proved otherwise.
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#218
Jan 14, 2008
 
Will wrote:
LOL.
Back at you squared, Sandy.
Back to the TOPIC: Don't gay parents' kids learn by example?
again, asked and answered.
just because YOU don't like
the answers, doesn't mean
keep asking the same stupid thing.

You've got some problems, dude.
MAJOR problems.
If your kid said he was gay,
would you dis-own him?
If so, you are DISGUSTING.

I wouldn't care if my kid was gay.
As long as he is a good person who
recycles (redundant).
You have some real problems
since you obsess over gays so much.

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#219
Jan 14, 2008
 
The bottom line is that were sexuality learned, there wouldn't be any gay people. It woudln't be possible. End of story. Duh.

P.S. Will you might ask a grown up around you to explain this. It would take to long for me to do so in writing considering the extremely basic level of words that would be required.

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#220
Jan 14, 2008
 
Sorry for the two typos - should be wouldn't and too.
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Jan 14, 2008
 
verad wrote:
The bottom line is that were sexuality learned, there wouldn't be any gay people. It woudln't be possible. End of story. Duh.
P.S. Will you might ask a grown up around you to explain this. It would take to long for me to do so in writing considering the extremely basic level of words that would be required.
Thanks for once again confirming that the is positively nothing between your ears. Just WHEN did you think your fellow homosexuals didn't exist and recruit any available oriface?
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#222
Jan 14, 2008
 
Colin wrote:
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Thanks for once again confirming that the is positively nothing between your ears. Just WHEN did you think your fellow homosexuals didn't exist and recruit any available oriface?
OMG
I laughed SOOO hard.
First, you KNOW Verad is straight
and a mother,
second, I TOLD YOU TO
THINK OF EITHER BRAD OR COLIN
to be able to FINALLY bang a chc
and now you USE the name Colin???'
Can anyone say FREUD???
Thanks for the laugh, freakboy!
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