U.S. signs homosexuality decriminalization statement

Mar 18, 2009 | Posted by: What- | Full story: thehill.com

Reversing a Bush administration policy, the Obama administration will add the country's signature to a United Nations statement calling for the decriminalization of homosexuality across the globe.

Homosexuality remains illegal in about 75 nations around the world, and is an offense punishable by death in seven countries.

"This is a welcome step forward as it signals to the world that, after years of a hostile administration, the United States recognizes the humanity of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people at home and abroad," said Joe Solmonese, the Human Rights Campaign's president.

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Since: Jun 08

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#21 Mar 19, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text><wink>
I'm honestly not!

If I was, then I wouldn't deny it.

Why won't you believe me?
guest

Osceola, MO

#22 Mar 19, 2009
Very well, then. I do believe you.
Ron

Lacon, IL

#23 Mar 19, 2009
What- wrote:
<quoted text>
The criminalization of homosexuality in every single country where it is illegal predates HIV/AIDS -- so that IS NOT the "cause" of laws against homosexual acts you intollerant biggot.
You are the intolerant one, wanting to impose your lack of morals on other nations.

It is regretable that the fanatics of the Obama Misadministration want ot enflame so much of the world by promoting what most consider immoral behavior.
guest

Ozark, AL

#24 Mar 19, 2009
Ron wrote:
<quoted text>You are the intolerant one, wanting to impose your lack of morals on other nations.
It is regretable that the fanatics of the Obama Misadministration want ot enflame so much of the world by promoting what most consider immoral behavior.
I think it's a wonderful thing the US is doing.

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#25 Mar 19, 2009
Ron wrote:
<quoted text>You are the intolerant one, wanting to impose your lack of morals on other nations.
It is regretable that the fanatics of the Obama Misadministration want ot enflame so much of the world by promoting what most consider immoral behavior.
You don't even seem to even know what "tolerance" is -- it is not "tolerant" (or morally right) to criminalize (and some cases punish with the DEATH PENALTY) something just because you find it immoral (probably based solely on what the Bible says no less).

And I'm not wanting to "impose a lack of morals" on anyone -- who has said anything about forcing people to participate in homosexual acts?

Since: Jun 08

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#26 Mar 19, 2009
...homosexual acts was a crime in the U.S. until relatively recently (in the last decade in some states) -- but such laws are NOT Constitutional, so you're out of luck Ron if you want such laws back here in the U.S.
Mr Conservative

United States

#27 Mar 19, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you! And, best wishes to you!
And, even the proposal to make private insurance pay has been dropped.
At first I didn't understand what the objection was. Today, the paper explained higher insurance cost and using your lifetime max.
That made all the sense in the world then!
Your last VA pension didn't come to you as a result of anything from Obama, you last disability pension increase came to your as a result of Former President George W. Bush's last budget.

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#28 Mar 19, 2009
guest wrote:
Very well, then. I do believe you.
...of course I could be unconsciously repressing it or some seemingly crazy stuff like that (so you could be right) lol...

Since: Nov 08

United States

#29 Mar 19, 2009
Ron wrote:
<quoted text>You are the intolerant one, wanting to impose your lack of morals on other nations.
It is regretable that the fanatics of the Obama Misadministration want ot enflame so much of the world by promoting what most consider immoral behavior.
??? this didnt make much sense.
This is GREAT thing the US is finally jumping on board with this. Tolerance is key. Tolerance does not mean you have to agree with something, it means you TOLERATE it, i.e., in this case means that homosexuality will not be punished (as what already said above). I think no matter if you agree with it or not, we should all agree that it shouldnt be punshible by death, as it is in some countries!

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#30 Mar 19, 2009
Mr Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>Your last VA pension didn't come to you as a result of anything from Obama, you last disability pension increase came to your as a result of Former President George W. Bush's last budget.
Former President George W. Bush never got this years budget done last year (he kept vetoing it)-- they took care of this years budget this year.
guest

Ozark, AL

#31 Mar 19, 2009
What- wrote:
...homosexual acts was a crime in the U.S. until relatively recently (in the last decade in some states)-- but such laws are NOT Constitutional, so you're out of luck Ron if you want such laws back here in the U.S.
They actually don't need those laws.
Law enforcement agencies routinely harass known homosexuals and places where they gather.
Then, you've got the expense of hiring an attorney and the hassle of going to court, only to have it thrown out once it gets to court.
As long as there are people like that in the world, Gay people won't have an easy time of it.

Since: Oct 07

Bellingham

#32 Mar 19, 2009
Uh, it's not really our place to impose anything on other countries unless they are doing something to threaten the international community. If Saudi Arabia wants to have being gay illegal that's their choice. The U.S. needs to get out of the business of imposing our laws and ideals on other countries. Bad stuff.

Since: Oct 07

Bellingham

#33 Mar 19, 2009
Ron wrote:
It is extremely intolerant of the USA to sign such an agreement.
Homosexual acts are criminal in a majority of the countries on this earth and with cause. We're paying BILLIONS for HIV/AIDS infections among Americans as well as much for a host of other ills that follow homosexual behavior in elevated rates. Other countries should be able to deal with these problems in the ways THEY see fit.
Well, homosexual behavior didn't create the HIV/AIDS problem. check out this article for a decent explanation on the issue.
http://www.avert.org/origins.htm
now anal sex is a huge spreading mechanism but not limited to gay men. Other than that, as the other dude said homosexual intolerance has been around much longer than HIV/AIDS
guest

Ozark, AL

#34 Mar 19, 2009
Rick69 wrote:
Uh, it's not really our place to impose anything on other countries unless they are doing something to threaten the international community. If Saudi Arabia wants to have being gay illegal that's their choice. The U.S. needs to get out of the business of imposing our laws and ideals on other countries. Bad stuff.
This signsture isn't part of that.
The UN can urge progress without forcing anybody to do anything.
The US just added a signature to the UN list in favor.

Since: Jun 08

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#35 Mar 19, 2009
Rick69 wrote:
Uh, it's not really our place to impose anything on other countries unless they are doing something to threaten the international community. If Saudi Arabia wants to have being gay illegal that's their choice. The U.S. needs to get out of the business of imposing our laws and ideals on other countries. Bad stuff.
Guest is correct -- the U.S. can urge progress without forcing anybody to do anything.

And the idea of it being wrong to execute homosexuals isn't an "American Ideal" -- just look at how many countries signed the homosexuality decriminalization statement before us (President Bush refused to).

However, countries do not have the right to do ANYTHING to their people that they want though -- and I have no idea why some people (like you apparently) think that they do.

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#36 Mar 19, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text>They actually don't need those laws.
Law enforcement agencies routinely harass known homosexuals and places where they gather.
Then, you've got the expense of hiring an attorney and the hassle of going to court, only to have it thrown out once it gets to court.
As long as there are people like that in the world, Gay people won't have an easy time of it.
I'm sure that you're correct about discriminatory enforcement of other laws that have nothing to do with homosexuality here in the U.S.(a few years ago Amnesty International had a campaign on that subject), but at least it isn't codified in law that homosexuality is illegal and homosexuals aren't actually jailed or executed for homosexual acts and all of that (and at least law enforcement is actually acting Unconstitutionally here in the U.S. when they do the things that you described above).

Do you think that law enforcement does such things in Paragould?
guest

Ozark, AL

#37 Mar 19, 2009
What- wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure that you're correct about discriminatory enforcement of other laws that have nothing to do with homosexuality here in the U.S.(a few years ago Amnesty International had a campaign on that subject), but at least it isn't codified in law that homosexuality is illegal and homosexuals aren't actually jailed or executed for homosexual acts and all of that (and at least law enforcement is actually acting Unconstitutionally here in the U.S. when they do the things that you described above).
Do you think that law enforcement does such things in Paragould?
I don't know.
I have known people who were harassed. I was only personally harassed by the cops once.
This had to do with being at Police HQ in downtown St Louis in support of some that were arrested on Halloween for dressing in drag. When it came time to feed the parking meter, I was questioned by a group of cops on "If I knew what time I was required to start paying for parking?"
I was afraid that I'd have a parking ticket on my car when I came back out, but I must admit, I didn't.
After attorney fees and several court dates, my friends finally had their cases thrown out.
St Louis police have been trained since to be sensitive to Gay people, one can only presume, even if they personally hate Gay people.
The incidents in Craighead Forest Park can only be judged as harassment.
If people can actually be viewed having public sexual activity, then arrest them, but as a Gay person, I have never seen this myself.
Seeing 4 feet under a stall and someone "knowing" what is going on does not count, in my book.

I can imagine what's going on in many places, but unless I see it, it doesn't count.

Now, Closeted Gay people, out Gay people and others who meet in parks are more forced by society to meet there.
Where else?
Id society doesn't like it, change the rules so we can operate on equal footing and find dates at more normal places.

Since: Mar 09

Greene County, AR

#38 Mar 19, 2009
What- wrote:
U.S. signs homosexuality decriminalization statement
Reversing a Bush administration policy, the Obama administration will add the country's signature to a United Nations statement calling for the decriminalization of homosexuality across the globe.
Homosexuality remains illegal in about 75 nations around the world, and is an offense punishable by death in seven countries.
"This is a welcome step forward as it signals to the world that, after years of a hostile administration, the United States recognizes the humanity of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people at home and abroad," said Joe Solmonese, the Human Rights Campaign's president.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-adm...
This is wonderful and Obama also wonderfully promised to get rid of the military's inflammatory "don't ask don't tell" policy.
Bigotry

Franklin, OH

#40 Mar 21, 2009
Of course homosexuality should be decriminalized all around the globe!

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#41 Mar 21, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know.
I have known people who were harassed. I was only personally harassed by the cops once.
This had to do with being at Police HQ in downtown St Louis in support of some that were arrested on Halloween for dressing in drag. When it came time to feed the parking meter, I was questioned by a group of cops on "If I knew what time I was required to start paying for parking?"
I was afraid that I'd have a parking ticket on my car when I came back out, but I must admit, I didn't.
After attorney fees and several court dates, my friends finally had their cases thrown out.
St Louis police have been trained since to be sensitive to Gay people, one can only presume, even if they personally hate Gay people.
The incidents in Craighead Forest Park can only be judged as harassment.
If people can actually be viewed having public sexual activity, then arrest them, but as a Gay person, I have never seen this myself.
Seeing 4 feet under a stall and someone "knowing" what is going on does not count, in my book.
I can imagine what's going on in many places, but unless I see it, it doesn't count.
Now, Closeted Gay people, out Gay people and others who meet in parks are more forced by society to meet there.
Where else?
Id society doesn't like it, change the rules so we can operate on equal footing and find dates at more normal places.
I hope that all of the bad things that you mentioned above ends, and I agree with you about your views on society -- I remember that even the former Governor of New Jersey (during his entire adult life and even while he was Governor), Jim McGreevey, was relegated to meeting guys anonymously in parks and bookstores.

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