What are you going to do to get your rights?

Nov 8, 2008 | Posted by: Paulathesurfmom | Full story: lezgetreal.com

Here is what I am going to do... Tomorrow I am going to a church... I plan to take my family with me... We will go in... We will go dressed for church... We will go in as the family we are… We will be respectful and quiet... But when they pass the collection plate, my twins and I are going to stand up, take out a sign I have made out of an old sheet that says "I AM GAY" and stand there till the service is over or they ask us to leave. And I will do this in a different church every Sunday till we have our rights.

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“equality for ALL means ALL”

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Uh, don't traumatize your kids. Bad idea.
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I am afraid this is the only way people are going to see what a gay family is.

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Nov 8, 2008
 
Tony C wrote:
Uh, don't traumatize your kids. Bad idea.
Showing kids that tolerance is the right way to go is NEVER a bad idea. It's called being understanding of others and the rights everyone should have.

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Nov 8, 2008
 
I'm going to make a youtube video, as I'm too far away to march. Believe me if I was there I'd be marching with you all.

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Nov 8, 2008
 
Myr the Gryphon wrote:
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Showing kids that tolerance is the right way to go is NEVER a bad idea. It's called being understanding of others and the rights everyone should have.
It depends on your kids. If your kids are ready for this sort of thing and are up for it, have at it. Good parents know their kids well enough to know if this is a good idea or not.
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Nov 8, 2008
 
I also think not a good idea. If she is a believer, join a Church and engage the congregation so they learn to accept her without labels and judgment. If she's not religious, I think the time would be better spent demonstrating in the halls of our Government. Where the argument belongs. This just emboldens and empowers the Church.
I for one, advocate lodging a campaign outside the Church asking everyone, who voted NO on 8, to stop attending or giving to Churches that supported the proposition, and find a new one. Their collection boxes after all proffered this discrimination.
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Nov 8, 2008
 
I applaud your desire to stand up in church but I discourage you from bringing the kids. I was appalled that in some of the “Protect Marriage” ads they used children to legitimize the scare tactics they were perpetrating on society. I thought that it represented exploitation of the children. Though I believe that your children are loved and an integral part of your family they are none the less children and thus too young to decide their stake in this battle. Thus, having them participate in holding the sheet, though it may be with good intentions, might also be viewed as exploitation.
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I applaud your desire to stand up in church but I discourage you from bringing the kids. I was appalled that in some of the “Protect Marriage” ads they used children to legitimize the scare tactics they were perpetrating on society. I thought that it represented exploitation of the children. Though I believe that your children are loved and an integral part of your family they are none the less children and thus too young to decide their stake in this battle. Thus, having them participate in holding the sheet, though it may be with good intentions, might also be viewed as exploitation.

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Thank for all of you input...

Mtr... when you have that vid done let me know... I'd like to feature it on LGR...

Now tomorrow I will be attending a service and I will be bring my children with me... I really feel that they need to see my family and I are no different then theirs is...

Also my father, who is an Air Force General, has agree to come with me...

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

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Nov 8, 2008
 
Armed revolution might be a good idea at this point. It's been done before in this country, ya kno......

“Marriage equality for all”

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Nov 8, 2008
 
Paulathesurfmom wrote:
Thank for all of you input...
Mtr... when you have that vid done let me know... I'd like to feature it on LGR...
Now tomorrow I will be attending a service and I will be bring my children with me... I really feel that they need to see my family and I are no different then theirs is...
Also my father, who is an Air Force General, has agree to come with me...
Paula, you may or may not know that most UCC churches are gay friendly. Many are "open and affirming" meaning that they welcome GLBT persons into the full life and ministry of the church. However, if you're going to churches to "make a point", then I suggest you skip the UCC. We already know what diverse families are like. My congregation has about 13 lesbians (4 couples) and about 9 gays. Those are the "out" members, but there are really a few more.

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Nov 8, 2008
 
I'm a member of the denomination called The United Church Of Christ.

I have been a member of The Sayville Congregational United Church Of Christ ( http://www.sayvilleucc.org/ ) for more than 12 years.

We celebrated our 150th BIRTHDAY this spring !:)

We are an Open and Affirming congregation. We have had 1 gay pastor and 2 lesbian pastors in the past 20 years. Our present pastor is a str8 divorced woman.

Our congregation is about 15% gay I would say.

Our congregation takes part in our local annual Gay Pride Parade.

PEACE !

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Nov 8, 2008
 
Obama was very influential in helping seal the fate of gays & lesbians regarding Proposition 8 in California, and the anti-gay amendment that passed in Florida.

After reading how Obama threw gays & lesbians underneath the bus, how Obama fanned the flames of hate that many blacks feel toward gays & lesbians…..all this, just to get more votes……is it any wonder that 70% of black voters voted against gays & lesbians in California and Florida????

Obama should be ashamed of himself. Such strategies are right out the Karl Rove playbook, Obama’s strategy was even worse than Rove’s…….please read below for yourself:

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2007/11/...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutc...

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Grace, are you following me ?

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Nov 8, 2008
 
I only say bring your kids if it is something they want to do, not something they feel obligated to do. Regardless of the beliefs of your children, they should not be forced to do this under any circumstances. Dialogue will give your kids more understanding and acceptance than forcing them to "protest."

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Grace, are you following me ?
I think that Grace follows everyone. She is on every thread of every forum I think. Ya just gotta feel sorry for her.
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Nov 8, 2008
 
"But when they pass the collection plate, my twins and I are going to stand up, take out a sign I have made out of an old sheet that says "I AM GAY"

I have a suggestion that will get better results. Attend right wing Churches notoriously anti-gay as often as possible with your cell phone or whatever records and once they have made comments on Amendments, Propositions, or anything political, they have mixed Church and State. They have lost their tax exempt status. Keep good records of which Church it was with name, address, and preacher whatever doing the talking, and call the IRS ASAP.

Continue this process until bigoted Churches are placed out of business.

GLBT will have civil rights through the new USSC in about four years however; these radical Churches should be put out of business between now and then.

Just standing there saying you are gay will do no good. In fact, it might do more harm because it will give them validation that what they are doing is right at least, in their minds. Don't say anything. Be quiet about it and call the IRS and report them. Play the recording to the IRS and make sure you are speaking with someone with authority at the IRS. Send them copies of the recording if you can.

Put bigoted businesses and Churches out of business.

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I think that Grace follows everyone. She is on every thread of every forum I think. Ya just gotta feel sorry for her.
I kno. She just followed me to another one.
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Daniel P from Long Island wrote:
Armed revolution might be a good idea at this point. It's been done before in this country, ya kno......
The purpose of government and laws is supposed to be to create an atmosphere where conflict and violence are less likely, and disputes can be resolved in a fair manner.

But when the government denies my fundamental rights, and the law makes me a second class citizen, that unfairness reduces my respect for both government and law, and makes violence seem more attractive.

When I read the story about Lisa Marie Pond dying alone in a Miami hospital while the staff refused to let her lesbian partner, Janice Langbehn and her children visit her, it fills me with rage.

The government and laws are merely abstract concepts, it takes actual human beings making decisions to create these tragedies. If I ever find myself in the situation that Janice Langbehn was in, my mind is made up: I will simply kill everyone that I feel is responsible.

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The purpose of government and laws is supposed to be to create an atmosphere where conflict and violence are less likely, and disputes can be resolved in a fair manner.
But when the government denies my fundamental rights, and the law makes me a second class citizen, that unfairness reduces my respect for both government and law, and makes violence seem more attractive.
When I read the story about Lisa Marie Pond dying alone in a Miami hospital while the staff refused to let her lesbian partner, Janice Langbehn and her children visit her, it fills me with rage.
The government and laws are merely abstract concepts, it takes actual human beings making decisions to create these tragedies. If I ever find myself in the situation that Janice Langbehn was in, my mind is made up: I will simply kill everyone that I feel is responsible.
Thomas Jefferson would be PROUD of you !

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