Episcopal priests offer spiritual support for gay unions

Dec 3, 2012 Full story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel 25

Gay couples who seek spiritual affirmation of their relationships can now sanctify their unions with special blessings at South Florida's Episcopal churches.

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Kingman, AZ

#1 Dec 3, 2012
None of the 77 priests are opposed to homosexual union on moral grounds? Figures. I assume that they are also not opposed on scriptural grounds. Look for more losses in TEC membership. Obviously this diocese won't be leaving. They are totally united in apostasy as a diocese and with her royal highness - KJ-S.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#2 Dec 4, 2012
What in the world is wrong with this group of Episcopal priests offering spritual support to these couples? The sprits they worshop no doubt welcome their own as they move ever deeper into the depths of perversion and degradation.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#3 Dec 4, 2012
"Gay couples who seek spiritual affirmation of their relationships can now sanctify their unions with special blessings at South Florida's Episcopal churches.

Priests in the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida have been given permission to perform a distinct rite, different from the marriage between a man and a woman. Called "The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant," the ceremony, to be introduced this month, was approved by national convention delegates over the summer.

South Florida's Episcopal priests had been performing a locally approved liturgy for the past two years for couples who have been married in other states, Bishop Leo Frade said. Florida law does not recognize same-sex marriages."

You don't talk much to your 'wife', the Episcopal priest, do you georgiekins.

LOL......
George

Jacksonville, FL

#4 Dec 4, 2012
MiddleWay wrote:
"Gay couples who seek spiritual affirmation of their relationships can now sanctify their unions with special blessings at South Florida's Episcopal churches.
Priests in the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida have been given permission to perform a distinct rite, different from the marriage between a man and a woman. Called "The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant," the ceremony, to be introduced this month, was approved by national convention delegates over the summer.
South Florida's Episcopal priests had been performing a locally approved liturgy for the past two years for couples who have been married in other states, Bishop Leo Frade said. Florida law does not recognize same-sex marriages."
You don't talk much to your 'wife', the Episcopal priest, do you georgiekins.
LOL......
I talk to her all the time. She won't perform one of these "rites." Depsite her ordination in The Episcopal Organization, she remains a Christian and is intent on remaining one.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#5 Dec 4, 2012
George wrote:
... Depsite her ordination in The Episcopal Organization, she remains a Christian and is intent on remaining one.
Not an easy thing to do these days.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#9 Dec 4, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>No truly Christian church can ever bless or affirm what God condemns. Real love means warning you of hellfire:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
God's Word stands forever.
Your outlook will improve when the love bug bites
Rebecca

Hartsville, SC

#10 Dec 4, 2012
George wrote:
What in the world is wrong with this group of Episcopal priests offering spritual support to these couples? The sprits they worshop no doubt welcome their own as they move ever deeper into the depths of perversion and degradation.
What's WRONG with them??? NOTHING is WRONG! They doing what Jesus himself would do. When did hating, judging, ostracizing and discriminating become a Christian thing to do? Christian...as in CHRIST! I am sure Jesus is just shaking his head in shame watching what people who invoke his name and the name of his Father are doing to their fellow human beings! You suggest that they should NOT offer spiritual support to a human being who wishes to receive it. I believe that is the definition of perverse and degrading...not of them, but of YOU! You are the one that is in real need of spiritual help and guidance. You are obviously paranoid and have a horrible opinion of yourself. Why else would you seek to destroy others to make yourself feel superior. Lady, you definitely aren't being anything even close to Christian!
Rebecca

Hartsville, SC

#11 Dec 4, 2012
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Your outlook will improve when the love bug bites
Ever eat a ham sandwich?
Leviticus 11:7-8 reads:
And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
Have your ears pierced or get a tattoo?
Leviticus 19:28 states: Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Get a haircut?
Leviticus 19:27 states: Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard
Get a vasectomy or be circumcised?
Deuteronomy 23:1 states:
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Get remarried? Work on Sunday? I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. If you take every verse of the BIBLE literally including the Old Testament, then maybe you should start living by ALL the rules written anywhere in the Bible. ALL of them!!! Every single one. Can't? Didn't think so. Better yet, concentrate on the LOVE OF GOD! Stop hating things that scare you because you don't understand them. Who are YOU to profess that YOU know and understand what GOD thinks and wants? God also said to "Love others as I have loved you". Which means unconditionally and without judgement. Let God do the judging when the time comes, I promise he doesn't need any help with that.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#12 Dec 4, 2012
Rebecca wrote:
Ever eat a ham sandwich?...
Ever read the New Testament?
Romans 6:14, 7:4-6, for example.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#13 Dec 5, 2012
Rebecca wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are YOU to profess that YOU know and understand what GOD thinks and wants? God also said to "Love others as I have loved you". Which means unconditionally and without judgement. Let God do the judging when the time comes, I promise he doesn't need any help with that.
Rearkable! In the same breath that you admonish others that they cnnot know what God think or wants despte His revelations, you say that YOU know what God knows and wants based upon those same revelations. Do you have any idea how nutty that is? Perhaps you need to think in ways of harmonizing seemingly contradictory things in Scripture rather than deciding that only a couple (those you like) have meaning.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#15 Dec 5, 2012
Where two or more gather in My name, I am there....
George

Jacksonville, FL

#16 Dec 5, 2012
MiddleWay wrote:
Where two or more gather in My name, I am there....
Do the voices in your head make you elgible?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#17 Dec 5, 2012
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Rearkable! In the same breath that you admonish others that they cnnot know what God think or wants despte His revelations, you say that YOU know what God knows and wants based upon those same revelations. Do you have any idea how nutty that is? Perhaps you need to think in ways of harmonizing seemingly contradictory things in Scripture rather than deciding that only a couple (those you like) have meaning.
Well,... LOL!!!....

It is certainly no more nutty than the way YOU present it!

In fact, The Lord gave TWO Commandments. These, He said, were enough. All of the rest were hung upon these Two. So, in fact, the observations made by Rebecca are correct.

Much of Traditional "orthodox" Christianity has gotten way off the track. Now, every excuse that can be thought of to try to avoid getting back on-track with the Teachings of Christ Jesus is being used by the Truth-dodging Traditionalists, under the guise of being "conservative and orthodox."

Actual "conservative" theology is a rigorous re-examination of Christian faith at the individual level, based exclusively upon the Teachings of Christ Jesus. The use of Old Testament should be primarily for creating an understanding of theological context and setting - not as a list of lawful rules to live by.

Likewise, the body of the Letters of Paul are helpful in providing an understanding of how Christianity advanced and adapted to become what it is today, some of which is pertinent to the Christian Mysteries and some of which is very basically full of error and heresy.

Let the Truth be sought, in every respect. This is what Jesus advocated. Nowhere, in any of the Teachings of Christ Jesus, can any directive to avoid truth be found.

Rev. Ken

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#18 Dec 5, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever read the New Testament?
Romans 6:14, 7:4-6, for example.
So, in other words, you treat the bible like a buffet, only taking what is tasty and leaving the broccoli and liver and onions alone to fill up on fried chicken and ice cream.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#19 Dec 5, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What's with the name Rainbow? Are you a Fa$$ot or something?
Oh, come ON! This is lame even for you. I thought you better than this. I'm really disappointed in your performance lately. I'm afraid you've lost your edginess.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#21 Dec 5, 2012
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Well,... LOL!!!....
It is certainly no more nutty than the way YOU present it!
In fact, The Lord gave TWO Commandments. These, He said, were enough. All of the rest were hung upon these Two. So, in fact, the observations made by Rebecca are correct.
Much of Traditional "orthodox" Christianity has gotten way off the track. Now, every excuse that can be thought of to try to avoid getting back on-track with the Teachings of Christ Jesus is being used by the Truth-dodging Traditionalists, under the guise of being "conservative and orthodox."
Actual "conservative" theology is a rigorous re-examination of Christian faith at the individual level, based exclusively upon the Teachings of Christ Jesus. The use of Old Testament should be primarily for creating an understanding of theological context and setting - not as a list of lawful rules to live by.
Likewise, the body of the Letters of Paul are helpful in providing an understanding of how Christianity advanced and adapted to become what it is today, some of which is pertinent to the Christian Mysteries and some of which is very basically full of error and heresy.
Let the Truth be sought, in every respect. This is what Jesus advocated. Nowhere, in any of the Teachings of Christ Jesus, can any directive to avoid truth be found.
Rev. Ken
You and your ilk are fond of saying no one was there with a tape recorder so you can't trust anything that is reported to have been said except when you find something you can use for your purposes and all of a sudden they become "The Teachings of Christ" as if He lived and died in a vacuum and not as a Jew of His time and place with a full knowledge of Scripture and the history of His own people. So play your intellectual games and rationalize all you want. In the end, you will answer for leading others astray.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#22 Dec 5, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible's many explicit commands against all homosexual behavior are found repeatedly in both Testaments and supported by Judeo-Christian tradition, ancient texts, and every Bible translation.
Those practicing homosexual behavior choose to live in direct rebellion against God's Commands.
Its your own fault
.
Quit complaining and buy yourself a different book

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#24 Dec 5, 2012
George wrote:
<quoted text>
You and your ilk are fond of saying no one was there with a tape recorder so you can't trust anything that is reported to have been said except when you find something you can use for your purposes and all of a sudden they become "The Teachings of Christ" as if He lived and died in a vacuum and not as a Jew of His time and place with a full knowledge of Scripture and the history of His own people. So play your intellectual games and rationalize all you want. In the end, you will answer for leading others astray.
Excuse me, Georgiekins,

In my post #17 above, I very clearly made reference to Jesus and the "Teachings" as a matter of the context of Jesus "as a Jew of His time and place with a full knowledge of Scripture and the history of His own people," as you have so aptly put it.

So, it is obvious that, in your knee-jerk reaction, you failed to read or comprehend my post. Shame on you. You are more intelligent than you are permitting yourself to show.

It is YOU who are playing intellectual games with the truth, just as the Pharisees did as they tried unsuccessfully to trap Jesus in His own words. Time and time again, He answered their subterfuge with a simple and elegant truth. Thus, their own exposed, hypocritical and bigoted failures vexed and embarrassed them to such a degree that they called for and got His crucifixion in order to shut Him up forever.

Didn't work.

It won't work for you, either.

Rev. Ken
George

Jacksonville, FL

#25 Dec 5, 2012
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me, Georgiekins,
In my post #17 above, I very clearly made reference to Jesus and the "Teachings" as a matter of the context of Jesus "as a Jew of His time and place with a full knowledge of Scripture and the history of His own people," as you have so aptly put it.
So, it is obvious that, in your knee-jerk reaction, you failed to read or comprehend my post. Shame on you. You are more intelligent than you are permitting yourself to show.
It is YOU who are playing intellectual games with the truth, just as the Pharisees did as they tried unsuccessfully to trap Jesus in His own words. Time and time again, He answered their subterfuge with a simple and elegant truth. Thus, their own exposed, hypocritical and bigoted failures vexed and embarrassed them to such a degree that they called for and got His crucifixion in order to shut Him up forever.
Didn't work.
It won't work for you, either.
Rev. Ken
Still as phony as ever. You can rationaliza anything - your heresies as well as your "church's" apostasy. If you and the PB are right, since all paths lead to the same place, it doesn't matter what I believe. If 3,000 years of history and faithful witness to the Truth is right, it would be better for you to have had a millstone tied around your neck. I will take those odds any day.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#26 Dec 5, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible condemns all homosexual behavior and that fact stands for all eternity.
There is no casting away God's Word.
You obviously can't ignore it, even though you choose to live in open rebellion against God.
Find yourself another book to read; one that makes you happy
.
The library is full of choices

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