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Gay rights protest in St. Petersburg ends in clashes, arrests

There are 13 comments on the The Baltimore Sun story from Oct 12, 2013, titled Gay rights protest in St. Petersburg ends in clashes, arrests. In it, The Baltimore Sun reports that:

Police arrested 67 people after a fight broke out between gay rights activists and their opponents at a demonstration in the Russian city of St Petersburg on Saturday.

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Since: Nov 09

Columbus OH

#1 Oct 12, 2013
One of these days there will be a death at one of the rallies. Then the Russian government will have blood on their hands. It will be interesting to see how they will rationalize it or make the fault of the LGBT community. They should have not arrested any of the LGBT activists this time.

Since: Mar 09

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#2 Oct 12, 2013
nealcmh wrote:
One of these days there will be a death at one of the rallies. Then the Russian government will have blood on their hands. It will be interesting to see how they will rationalize it or make the fault of the LGBT community. They should have not arrested any of the LGBT activists this time.
True.

Further, sources in St. Pete's say that the disruptors were released at the police station without charge.

Not so for the gay demonstrators.

The Russian government doesn't mind "blood on it's hands" as long as they can control the narrative about it. They think of it as the best of all possible political lubricants.

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#3 Oct 12, 2013
Gays should shut up about their rights, we don't see normal people constanty shouting their mouths off about their rights.

I say jail all gays found guilty of breaching the peace.

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#4 Oct 12, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
Gays should shut up about their rights, we don't see normal people constanty shouting their mouths off about their rights.
I say jail all gays found guilty of breaching the peace.
The sheeple that you call "normal" are afraid to do so. They've been down for so long that they think what they have is up.

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Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#5 Oct 12, 2013
snyper wrote:
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, "Historical Review of Pennsylvania" (1759);
author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706-1790)
Someone needs to tell that to Obama and the NSA, quite apart from the topic of gay rights.

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#6 Oct 12, 2013
snyper wrote:
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The sheeple that you call "normal" are afraid to do so. They've been down for so long that they think what they have is up.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, "Historical Review of Pennsylvania" (1759);
author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706-1790)
I say jail all gays found guilty of breaching the peace.

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#7 Oct 12, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>I say jail all gays found guilty of breaching the peace.
Peaceful demonstration is NEVER a "breach of the peace".

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#8 Oct 12, 2013
JohnInToronto wrote:
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Someone needs to tell that to Obama and the NSA, quite apart from the topic of gay rights.
It's a very tough question during wartime.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#10 Oct 13, 2013
Swede wrote:
Way to go Russia!!!
The accompanying picture shows the Russian Police hauling an evil foaming at the mouth snarling criminal 'christian' off to the slammer (cross on the front of shirt)
http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2013...
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Do you suppose the two cops are the gay guys?

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#11 Oct 13, 2013
snyper wrote:
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It's a very tough question during wartime.
Not when it involves spying on people who are clearly not terrorists and denying entry permission into the US for those who merely criticize the the NSA.

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#12 Oct 13, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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The accompanying picture shows the Russian Police hauling an evil foaming at the mouth snarling criminal 'christian' off to the slammer (cross on the front of shirt)
http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2013...
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Do you suppose the two cops are the gay guys?
All of the disruptors were released without charge at the police station.

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#14 Oct 18, 2013
nealcmh wrote:
One of these days there will be a death at one of the rallies.
Wow... you're definitely going too far about the things taking place there. Let me remind we are talking about small and in fact absolutely insignificant rally, being held on behalf of a bunch of people who simply prefer stinking dirty anal sex to traditional forms of love... Right? Not about those bloody events taking place now in Syria. Look, I make my living in Czech Republic now and do not actually know how you treat queers there but believe me... here gay parades and any other lgbt events of alike quite rarely take place without throwing dead rats into the marching queers, without paintball shooting at them and without that banal clashes and fights.
How do I personally treat the Russian law banning gay-propaganda among youths? Well, from my point that was reasonable and sensitive initiative enough on the Russian authorities' behalf to secure with a law underage children from gay love and to set a certain responsibility for gay sexual abuse of morals among kids. That is exactly the initiative I would personally like to see here in Europe.

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#15 Oct 18, 2013
Intil wrote:
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Wow... you're definitely going too far about the things taking place there. Let me remind we are talking about small and in fact absolutely insignificant rally, being held on behalf of a bunch of people who simply prefer stinking dirty anal sex to traditional forms of love... Right? Not about those bloody events taking place now in Syria. Look, I make my living in Czech Republic now and do not actually know how you treat queers there but believe me... here gay parades and any other lgbt events of alike quite rarely take place without throwing dead rats into the marching queers, without paintball shooting at them and without that banal clashes and fights.
How do I personally treat the Russian law banning gay-propaganda among youths? Well, from my point that was reasonable and sensitive initiative enough on the Russian authorities' behalf to secure with a law underage children from gay love and to set a certain responsibility for gay sexual abuse of morals among kids. That is exactly the initiative I would personally like to see here in Europe.
Russia needs to crack down on the predatory actions of their own organized crime syndicates which pander to pedophiles and ephebephiles, running the child prostitution and child pornography there, and sometimes elsewhere. Russia needs to find homes for it's unwanted children.

The moralistic approach to problems tends to produce such additional problems. Sexual repressivism leads to secrecy and child abandonment. It doesn't solve the problem.

Refusal to learn about people, relegating them to the wastebasket labeled "problem", causes problems to multiply.

People HAVE problems. They are not themselves problems.

Children cannot "learn" or be "taught" to BE gay, though they can be coerced into ACTING gay, and even into thinking that they might be. Who would do such a thing? Not healthy gay people, but predators and paraphiliacs. To conflate all of these together is an error.

The actual purpose of this ban, it's true effect, is to render gay people silent and unable to openly contact and help and EDUCATE each other. It forces them into a silent furtiveness and social dishonesty that are unhealthy. There are many young gay people who will die from this ignorance. A great many of them. You will not hear of it because they aren't allowed to speak.

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