Southern Baptists officially oppose gay Scout rule

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The Southern Baptist Convention approved a resolution Wednesday expressing its opposition to the Boy Scouts of America's new policy allowing gay Scouts, though it doesn't explicitly call for churches to drop all ties with the organization.
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Their abomination is REPEATEDLY stated as homosexuality. But you find the verse that names their other sins, and now act as if that is the only verse anyone should consider. There is no intellectual honesty with you.
Sodom and Gomorrah did not exist pre-flood. You know that. Quit pretending they are the subject of Genesis 6.
No it isn't dear, it isn't even stated as that ONCE. The strangers in Lot's house were threatened with death, something which God had already labelled an abomination. Are you sure you have ever read the Bible?

Dumpling, there is no intellectual dishonesty on my part, everything I have said here is easily verifiable, I've even told you where to look. You're just intellectually lazy.

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<quoted text>You may as well be quoting the Hobbit. You cannot argue your position from the Bible, so you use books NOT in the Bible, and claim that they should be there.
1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind".
There's another verse. Now get busy again, and demonstrate some more intellectual dishonesty, for everyone to see.
Hon, in the oldest known copies of Paul's epistle, he hasn't written anything which would have been recognized by its readers as homosexuality, same sex sex acts, or even abusers of themselves with mankind. He put a man with a bed, "arsenokoitai", the last word in the verse was taught for centuries as a condemnation of masturbation. Effeminate is also an inaccurate translation, the word he uses actually translates as soft and it actually appears that way in several verses of the KJV discussing the quality of cloth.
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<quoted text>Hon, in the oldest known copies of Paul's epistle, he hasn't written anything which would have been recognized by its readers as homosexuality, same sex sex acts, or even abusers of themselves with mankind. He put a man with a bed, "arsenokoitai", the last word in the verse was taught for centuries as a condemnation of masturbation. Effeminate is also an inaccurate translation, the word he uses actually translates as soft and it actually appears that way in several verses of the KJV discussing the quality of cloth.
So now you're alleging the New Testament books, like Leviticus (not actually, but according to you) have been EDITED, and ADDED TO, and you have some special access to, or knowledge of, the "oldest known copies" of those manuscripts?

Imagine the depth of this sinister conspiracy, which was apparently born around 1300 B.C.(or earlier) to add anti-gay verses to Leviticus, and had initiates altering Paul's epistles 15-16 centuries later. And centuries after that, cabal initiates got King James to appoint them to the translation committees.
More incredibly, nobody knows the details of this sinister cabal, except for modern fagaganda organizations.(What a well-kept secret!) And ALL THIS is done just to hurt the self-esteem of some limp-wristed men?

More likely: You are just a pervert who is full of malarkey up to your ears, who relies on website talking points and/or demons to supply you with these bogus arguments.
If you don't repent, you know your destiny. That's the downside of being a well-learned fagagandist - you cannot later tell God "I did not know."
And the worst part is that you cannot even fool yourself.

And "effeminate" has to do with "the quality of cloth"???
LOL!

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<quoted text>So now you're alleging the New Testament books, like Leviticus (not actually, but according to you) have been EDITED, and ADDED TO, and you have some special access to, or knowledge of, the "oldest known copies" of those manuscripts?
Imagine the depth of this sinister conspiracy, which was apparently born around 1300 B.C.(or earlier) to add anti-gay verses to Leviticus, and had initiates altering Paul's epistles 15-16 centuries later. And centuries after that, cabal initiates got King James to appoint them to the translation committees.
More incredibly, nobody knows the details of this sinister cabal, except for modern fagaganda organizations.(What a well-kept secret!) And ALL THIS is done just to hurt the self-esteem of some limp-wristed men?
More likely: You are just a pervert who is full of malarkey up to your ears, who relies on website talking points and/or demons to supply you with these bogus arguments.
If you don't repent, you know your destiny. That's the downside of being a well-learned fagagandist - you cannot later tell God "I did not know."
And the worst part is that you cannot even fool yourself.
And "effeminate" has to do with "the quality of cloth"???
LOL!
Have you always been this much of a moron or is this level of idiocy just for me? Dumpling, the English translation of the Bible took certain artistic liberties with the original material due to the inability to directly translate it word for word. There is no English equivalent of arsenokoitai, because it literally means man/bed. The proof is there, only you are too flipping lazy to learn for yourself.

As for Leviticus, it has long been known that that it was added to, perhaps several times by religious authorities after Moses set them down. Don't believe me, look it up.

Whine all you want, but it's not my fault that you're too lazy to do your own research. If you hadn't noticed sweetie, you've produced absolutely nothing to prove anything I have said to be inaccurate in any, way, shape or form.
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it's no surprise the SBC made this decision.

ok, so they won't continue to warp little minds with fear and anger.

great!

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Would we expect anything else from Southern Baptist? NO! Go figure.
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<quoted text>Have you always been this much of a moron or is this level of idiocy just for me? Dumpling, the English translation of the Bible took certain artistic liberties with the original material due to the inability to directly translate it word for word. There is no English equivalent of arsenokoitai, because it literally means man/bed. The proof is there, only you are too flipping lazy to learn for yourself.
As for Leviticus, it has long been known that that it was added to, perhaps several times by religious authorities after Moses set them down. Don't believe me, look it up.
Whine all you want, but it's not my fault that you're too lazy to do your own research. If you hadn't noticed sweetie, you've produced absolutely nothing to prove anything I have said to be inaccurate in any, way, shape or form.
I guess you just cannot get enough of the old time gospel preaching. That's fine, as my exuberance for sharing the gospel never dries up.

Do you really expect anyone to believe you are some "translation" expert?
OR that you are privy to the "original materials"?
OR that you know all about somebody putting "additions" in Leviticus some 32 centuries ago?
AND that all those "additions" to the text, by a major coincidence, just happen to be the verses that prohibit the sexual perversions so near and dear to your heart?

You must work overtime trying to convince yourself you are getting things straight. When do you turn to credibility, so you can possibly fool someone else?

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<quoted text> I guess you just cannot get enough of the old time gospel preaching. That's fine, as my exuberance for sharing the gospel never dries up.
Do you really expect anyone to believe you are some "translation" expert?
OR that you are privy to the "original materials"?
OR that you know all about somebody putting "additions" in Leviticus some 32 centuries ago?
AND that all those "additions" to the text, by a major coincidence, just happen to be the verses that prohibit the sexual perversions so near and dear to your heart?
You must work overtime trying to convince yourself you are getting things straight. When do you turn to credibility, so you can possibly fool someone else?
Pudding, you still have yet to offer anything resembling proof that anything I have said here has been inaccurate. Either prove me wrong or quit whining. The reality is you've been schooled.
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<quoted text>Pudding, you still have yet to offer anything resembling proof that anything I have said here has been inaccurate. Either prove me wrong or quit whining. The reality is you've been schooled.
Well, of course! You claim that 32 centuries ago somebody ADDED things to the Book of Leviticus. By a remarkable coincidence, the things you claim they added just happen to be your favorite sexual perversions.
AND...(here's the really good part)
You claim if nobody can prove that what you say happened really did not happen ......
that lack of proof actually constitutes proof that it happened.(Whew!)
You have rewritten all the rules of evidence - or so you think.

What you need to do is discard your fagaganda talking points, give up your self-justifications, and admit your moral depravity. Then, and only then, can you throw that heavy burden of guilt at the foot of the cross.
But as long as you deny it exists you will continue to carry it. It will get really heavy as you go into eternity.
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Rick, Your unwillingness to repent and believevis explained pretty clearly in this verse:
John 3: 17-19 "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

Now, run and check those "original copies" which only you have!:-))))!

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<quoted text>Well, of course! You claim that 32 centuries ago somebody ADDED things to the Book of Leviticus. By a remarkable coincidence, the things you claim they added just happen to be your favorite sexual perversions.
AND...(here's the really good part)
You claim if nobody can prove that what you say happened really did not happen ......
that lack of proof actually constitutes proof that it happened.(Whew!)
You have rewritten all the rules of evidence - or so you think.
What you need to do is discard your fagaganda talking points, give up your self-justifications, and admit your moral depravity. Then, and only then, can you throw that heavy burden of guilt at the foot of the cross.
But as long as you deny it exists you will continue to carry it. It will get really heavy as you go into eternity.
And once again you offer absolutely no proof whatsoever that anything I've said is in any way, shape or form factually inaccurate. Is it my fault you have no clue about the history of the religion you profess to be a part of?

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(nothing worth repeating)
Pudding, you're the one who is praying that God hates me and/or what you fantasize I do as much as you believe He does. It isn't my fault that the Bible doesn't back you up on that as much as you choose to believe, but the truth remains the truth. You should be more concerned with your own relationship with the God you claim to believe in. From my reading of the Bible, son, you be in deep doo doo.
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And once again, I learn that you can claim UFOs land in your yard, and if nobody can prove they do not, then that proves they do. You consider your allegations on textual tampering to constitute proof.

Your unwillingness to face the truth about your moral guilt Is an unwise thing. I hope you'll repent, and quit imagining you are a god who can rewrite the scriptures.

John 3: 19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

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Still nothing to prove that what I have told you is wrong and still praying that your malinformed reading of the Bible is right. If this all you got, you're done.
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Still nothing to prove that what I have told you is wrong and still praying that your malinformed reading of the Bible is right. If this all you got, you're done.
because that would take some work on his part to dive into scholerly writings, historical works, language historical study, etc. goodness, that would just take too much time to do!

LOL
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Still nothing to prove that what I have told you is wrong and still praying that your malinformed reading of the Bible is right. If this all you got, you're done.
have you ever read any of paul tillich's books?
fascinating.
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Still nothing to prove that what I have told you is wrong and still praying that your malinformed reading of the Bible is right. If this all you got, you're done.
It's certainly getting repetitive, especially you claiming that the absence of proof your claims are false constitutes proof that they are true.

It's probably time to, as Jesus said, "shake off the dust...as a testimony against" you.
Your blood is not on my head. As it pertains to you, my hands are clean.

I see you have a fellow Greek to play with now. If you don't know what that means, see I Corinthians, chapter 1.
The Greeks "seek after wisdom" (Gnosticism) and,
Consider the cross "foolishness".

But "the foolishness of God is wiser than all the wisdom of men".

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<quoted text>It's certainly getting repetitive, especially you claiming that the absence of proof your claims are false constitutes proof that they are true.
Dumpling, you are the one claiming that what I have said has been false. PROVE IT, don't just whine what what I've said contradicts everything you claim to know.
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<quoted text>It's certainly getting repetitive, especially you claiming that the absence of proof your claims are false constitutes proof that they are true.
It's probably time to, as Jesus said, "shake off the dust...as a testimony against" you.
Your blood is not on my head. As it pertains to you, my hands are clean.
I see you have a fellow Greek to play with now. If you don't know what that means, see I Corinthians, chapter 1.
The Greeks "seek after wisdom" (Gnosticism) and,
Consider the cross "foolishness".
But "the foolishness of God is wiser than all the wisdom of men".
lol
If you're referencing myself as the "fellow Greek"...you may want to reqdjust your opinion.
Because I'm a lifelong Christian myself. Aside from that, I studied paleontoloogy & worked in the field for a few years, decided I wanted a better income & a home, returned to school & got that engineering degree. For the rest of my (long) career, I've been an engineer. I say all that, not to appear arrogant, but rather to show you that my mindset, my life long training, deals with hard facts where proven data must take the lead. If you choose to deride that and malign me because of my desire to know hard facts, then that shows your own lack of ability to accept hard proven data and clear stubborness to embrace the 20th century, let alone the 21st century, with all of the knowledge that's been learned these past 100+ years.
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Well, GOOD! In that case, you would know what the "Greek" knowledge of I Corinthians 1 means. But you act as if you don't

I notice you dismiss his epistemology also. He need prove nothing he claims. If you cannot disprove it, then that inability serves as prima facie proof that he is right.
Is that how paleontologists reason?
Do you do engineering in that fashion?

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