Southern Baptists officially oppose g...

Southern Baptists officially oppose gay Scout rule

There are 73 comments on the Durant Daily Democrat story from Jun 13, 2013, titled Southern Baptists officially oppose gay Scout rule. In it, Durant Daily Democrat reports that:

The Southern Baptist Convention approved a resolution Wednesday expressing its opposition to the Boy Scouts of America's new policy allowing gay Scouts, though it doesn't explicitly call for churches to drop all ties with the organization.

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scouts Message

Knoxville, TN

#1 Jul 3, 2013
This is great!

Since: Mar 07

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#2 Jul 3, 2013
scouts Message wrote:
This is great!
Because Jesus would NEVER want to be a positive influence on a boy's life?
Disciple of Jesus

United States

#3 Jul 4, 2013
Gay used to be and mean happy. Sodomites adopted it to further their wicked ways.

They should not be around children; ever.

Since: Mar 11

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#4 Jul 4, 2013
fr Disciple of Jesus:

>Gay used to be and mean happy. Sodomites adopted it to further their wicked ways. They should not be around children; ever.<

A Sodomite was one who lived in the city of Sodom, which was destroyed because of inhospitality to strangers. There ARE no Sodomites living today.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#5 Jul 4, 2013
‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

It's sad that the Southern Baptists aren't about to let the teachings of Jesus get in the way of their Christianity. They should be begging for His forgiveness, not patting themselves on the back for turning their backs on children.
Mallard

Bakersville, NC

#6 Jul 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
It's sad that the Southern Baptists aren't about to let the teachings of Jesus get in the way of their Christianity. They should be begging for His forgiveness, not patting themselves on the back for turning their backs on children.
Nonsense. They are not turning their backs on children. The Southern Baptists have a "Rangers" program, which is an alternative to scouting. If your church currently sponsors a BSA troop, replacing it with Rangers is fairly easy.
The SBC won't, I see, let the opinions of the spiritually dead get in the way of following Jesus. I'm glad of that.

The gospels record many instances of Jesus quoting from the Mosaic law, asking: "What did Moses command you?"
According to Jesus, that law is inspired.

Jesus even gave a "literal-six-day-creation ist" interpretation of it in Matthew chapter 23, where he spoke about "the blood of righteous Abel" (the 2nd son of Adam and Eve, murdered by his brother Cain).

Jesus spoke of Abel as a historical person, and of his murder as a historical event.
All you liberal theologians must deny the scriptures themselves. We who know the scriptures will not let you redefine Jesus. We have His words to withstand you.
And you do deny the scriptures, which is why you are not Christians at all.
pelham

Knoxville, TN

#7 Jul 5, 2013
Disciple of Jesus wrote:
Gay used to be and mean happy. Sodomites adopted it to further their wicked ways.
They should not be around children; ever.
I agree.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#8 Jul 5, 2013
Mallard wrote:
Nonsense.
Sweetie, rationalize their decidedly unChristlike acts however it takes to ease your guilty conscience, but the effect remains the same. I may not be a Christian puddin', but I've read the book and if they can't convince a non-believer they've gotten their Christianity right, how are they going to convince God?
Mallard

United States

#9 Jul 6, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, rationalize their decidedly unChristlike acts however it takes to ease your guilty conscience, but the effect remains the same. I may not be a Christian puddin', but I've read the book and if they can't convince a non-believer they've gotten their Christianity right, how are they going to convince God?
They cannot convince you of anything, because Satan has your mind blinded.
The Christian doesn't need to convince God of anything. God chose them, not vice-versa.

You actually call it "unchristian" that the SBC refuses to give its approbation to perversion?

If you've "read the book" you were wearing blinders. There is nothing "Christian" about patting the hellbound on the back, and assuring them that everything is okay.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#10 Jul 6, 2013
Mallard wrote:
They cannot convince you of anything, because Satan has your mind blinded.
No dear, they cannot convince me because I have read the Bible, this wasn't what Jesus had in mind for His followers to be doing. You can pray like heck that my mind has been blinded by Satan if that's what it takes to make you feel better, but it still won't make it be.
Mallard wrote:
The Christian doesn't need to convince God of anything. God chose them, not vice-versa.
Bwahahahaha, you obviously haven't bothered to read the instruction manual. Good luck with that one.
Mallard wrote:
You actually call it "unchristian" that the SBC refuses to give its approbation to perversion?
No dear, the word I used was unChristlike, as in not acting as Jesus would have done in the same circumstances. If you imagine that He would have kicked out the Boy Scouts simply because He couldn't kick out the gay ones, He doesn't know you or them.
Mallard wrote:
If you've "read the book" you were wearing blinders. There is nothing "Christian" about patting the hellbound on the back, and assuring them that everything is okay.
Good luck with your prayers sweetie, they won't do you any good, but they will give God a laugh.
Mallard

United States

#11 Jul 6, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>No dear, they cannot convince me because I have read the Bible, this wasn't what Jesus had in mind for His followers to be doing. You can pray like heck that my mind has been blinded by Satan if that's what it takes to make you feel better, but it still won't make it be.
<quoted text>Bwahahahaha, you obviously haven't bothered to read the instruction manual. Good luck with that one.
<quoted text>No dear, the word I used was unChristlike, as in not acting as Jesus would have done in the same circumstances. If you imagine that He would have kicked out the Boy Scouts simply because He couldn't kick out the gay ones, He doesn't know you or them.
<quoted text>Good luck with your prayers sweetie, they won't do you any good but they will give God a laugh.
Jesus' words: "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh".(Matt 19:4-5)

If you've read the book as you say, you need to do some reviewing.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#12 Jul 6, 2013
Mallard wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus' words: "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh".(Matt 19:4-5)
If you've read the book as you say, you need to do some reviewing.
You forgot the question that this was the answer to dear.

"3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

He's talking about opposite sex marriage only because he was specifically asked about one.

Sweetie, I've told you repeatedly that I have read the Bible. That's how I knew when you brought this up, that these verses are actually in reference to a divorce that Jesus says that God forbids, even though one would have been permitted under the old law.
Mallard

United States

#15 Jul 6, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You forgot the question that this was the answer to dear.
"3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
He's talking about opposite sex marriage only because he was specifically asked about one.
Sweetie, I've told you repeatedly that I have read the Bible. That's how I knew when you brought this up, that these verses are actually in reference to a divorce that Jesus says that God forbids, even though one would have been permitted under the old law.
Yes, it's true that Jesus never answered any questions about homo-marriage - because none was ever asked. That's because the Mosaic law is so clear on it that it left no question.
You keep claiming to be some studious authority. So how come you cannot get any of this right?

Romans 1:26-28
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient".

Now consult your talking points. I'm pretty sure I know the response already.
Friar Clandestine

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Jul 6, 2013
Mallard wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, it's true that Jesus never answered any questions about homo-marriage - because none was ever asked. That's because the Mosaic law is so clear on it that it left no question.
You keep claiming to be some studious authority. So how come you cannot get any of this right?
Romans 1:26-28
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient".
Now consult your talking points. I'm pretty sure I know the response already.
Try again
.
Read what GOD did to the straight people to punish them
Mallard

United States

#17 Jul 6, 2013
Friar Clandestine wrote:
<quoted text>
Try again
.
Read what GOD did to the straight people to punish them
Whatever you are talking about, you can post it.
God punishes straight people. But it is not for being straight.

If you want to stay on the path to hell, then fine. But you do not need to add to your judgement by trying to keep others on it.
Friar Clandestine

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Jul 6, 2013
Mallard wrote:
Whatever you are talking about, you can post it.
You already post it
.
Get someone to read it to you out loud

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#20 Jul 6, 2013
fr Mallard:

>Jesus' words...<

There are two verses you might want to look up, and follow. They are:

Judge not, lest YE be judged.

Love thy neighbor as THYSELF.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#21 Jul 6, 2013
Mallard wrote:
Yes, it's true that Jesus never answered any questions about homo-marriage - because none was ever asked. That's because the Mosaic law is so clear on it that it left no question.
You keep claiming to be some studious authority. So how come you cannot get any of this right?
Sweetie, Jesus rejected Mosaic law in His answer to the Pharisees. Under Mosaic law, a man can divorce his wife for any or even no reason at all. Jesus rejected that, the whole what God has brought together, you don't get to get out of unless she was out there fornicating with other men. Are you sure you've read the Bible?
Mallard wrote:
Romans 1:26-28
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient".
Now consult your talking points. I'm pretty sure I know the response already.
Those verses tell you something important about what is taking place here, it's said twice and you still missed it. And I'm pretty sure that even after I tell you what you missed, it will still be denied.

Let's put these two verses back in their original context for a bit. Paul is writing to the leaders of the Christians of Rome and he tells them that news had reached him that the Christians in Rome were taking part in the worst possible sin, idolatry and the worship of other Gods. It was for this reason that God was punishing them by giving them over to a whole laundry list of activities that he says are the product of a reprobate mind of which your verses are just the first. Paul condemns same sex acts, but remember why he said those same sex acts were going on in the first place, God gave them over to them for their idolatry. Paul condemns all sex acts as sinful. You're waiting for Jesus people, that's not something you need to be doing in the meantime. Keep your legs crossed.

Like I said, it actually helps to have read the Bible. Spoiler Alert, if you keep reading Paul's epistle from the verses you do know, you will probably find some of your own hobbies listed among the acts of a reprobate mind that God gave them over to and a great big fat condemnation of what YOU are doing right here, by citing these verses in this way, at the beginning of the next chapter. Sorry.

Mallard

United States

#22 Jul 6, 2013
Friar Clandestine wrote:
<quoted text>
You already post it Get someone to read it to you out loud
Should you start making sense, I will notice immediately.
Commence any time.
Mallard

United States

#23 Jul 6, 2013
Pattysboi wrote:
There are two verses you might want to look up, and follow. They are:
Judge not, lest YE be judged.
Matthew 7:1, A favorite out-of-context verse with the moral anarchist (when used as a pretext), it takes on a very different meaning when placed back in its context.
It does not tell us never to judge. Rather, it warns us not to be hypocritical in our judgement.

Matt 7:2-5
" For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye."
Pattysboi wrote:
Love thy neighbor as THYSELF.
This is a great verse, and one I endeavor to live by. It relates to that golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

If you saw me driving down a highway at night and you knew the bridge ahead was out, and I was about to drive my car into the river, I would want you to do everything you could possibly do to stop me.

So it is with me, when I see all these people on the roadway that leads straight to hell. I will stop them if I possibly can.

Thank you for bringing these subjects up. I love discussing them.

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