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Children should be taught the meaning of gay and lesbian at primary school

There are 170 comments on the Metro UK News story from Nov 13, 2018, titled Children should be taught the meaning of gay and lesbian at primary school. In it, Metro UK News reports that:

The Royal College of Paediatricians and Child Health said there needed to be a 'clear statement' that LGBT people and relationships were part of the teaching of healthy relationships. Following a four-month consultation on relationships and sex education, the Department for Education came up with guidance that said 'schools are free to determine how they address LGBT specific content, but the Department recommends that it is integral throughout the programmes of study'.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1 Nov 13, 2018
Kids today aren't raised in a vacuum; they know there are gay people; many have gay parents or relatives. Schools should teach factual information. The right-wingers always whine about schools indoctrinating kids, but want nothing more than to control what children learn--and what they don't learn.
Pence of Tides

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Tuesday Nov 13
The insane fundies should concentrate on what really ticks them off: Secular people and governments saying you may not legally beat your kids just because the buybull says you should.
Wondering

Revere, MA

#3 Tuesday Nov 13
cpeter1313 wrote:
Kids today aren't raised in a vacuum; they know there are gay people; many have gay parents or relatives. Schools should teach factual information. The right-wingers always whine about schools indoctrinating kids, but want nothing more than to control what children learn--and what they don't learn.
Clue, kids always knew there are gay people. When you say kids should be taught 'factual information' I have to agree. The problem is what is factual information concerning gay people and just what do you want to see kids taught about homosexuals. I bet it isn't the CDC Fact Sheets on STD's in America. I bet it isn't that Baron von Steuben and Harvey Milk were sexually interested in boys young enough to be their sons. Unless I'm wrong about the factual information you'd like to see taught it is you, and those like you, that want nothing more than to control what children learn--and what they don't learn.

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Pence of Tides

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Tuesday Nov 13
"I bet it isn't the CDC Fact Sheets on STD's in America. I bet it isn't that Baron von Steuben and Harvey Milk were sexually interested in boys young enough to be their sons"

Leaving aside any factual quibbles, you're psychosexually depraved. Child brides are _still_ legal in many parts of the US and they certainly have been a feature of civilization since forever. Lesbians have about the best profile regarding std risk. Heterosexual males rape and abuse women in endemic proportions. Homophobic obsessives are literally unbalanced - there's the real lesson plan.

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#5 Tuesday Nov 13
Wondering wrote:
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Clue, kids always knew there are gay people. When you say kids should be taught 'factual information' I have to agree. The problem is what is factual information concerning gay people and just what do you want to see kids taught about homosexuals. I bet it isn't the CDC Fact Sheets on STD's in America. I bet it isn't that Baron von Steuben and Harvey Milk were sexually interested in boys young enough to be their sons. Unless I'm wrong about the factual information you'd like to see taught it is you, and those like you, that want nothing more than to control what children learn--and what they don't learn.
As long as they are not deliberately slanting the facts to appear negative toward gays. If you want them to know facts about CDC fact sheets on STD's, so long as they are informed of all the relevant facts and stats, and not just the ones that ignorant bigots use to pretend that HIV is a "gay" problem. How irresponsible it would be to teach kids in a way that implies they are "safe" if they are not gay or having sex with the same sex... or to imply that any virus or disease favors gay people or exists because of gay people.

If they want to discuss (at an appropriate age) men who were "sexually interested" in people much younger than themselves, as long as they don't forget to include heterosexuals, and don't pretend that only gays or all gays are pedophiles or something. You could even mention my own father. And I mean no offense or disrespect to my dad, but after he and my mom divorced, he shacked up with a woman my brother's age, and eventually they got married. I myself briefly dated a 19 year old when I was in my 40's. But that's not as unusual as it may seem and neither me or my dad are pedophiles.

For every allegedly "bad" thing you can "teach" about gay people, there are more examples of straight people doing the same thing. So if the intent is to properly and objectively educate kids with facts, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But if the intent is to skew everything with an anti-gay bias, then of course that's unacceptable.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#6 Tuesday Nov 13
We don't teach young kids about Trump's fu**ing anything he could get his hands on, or the high percentage of heteros with herpes. Both Steuben and Milk had relationships with men; whatever the age difference is has no bearing on their character. Do I really need to bring up all the old guys with young wives (speaking of Trump again)?

Kids learn about Cinderella and Prince Charming without bringing in whether she liked to ride cowgirl or that he had a side relationship with Snow White. You can teach kids about love without bringing in sex.
Wondering wrote:
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Clue, kids always knew there are gay people. When you say kids should be taught 'factual information' I have to agree. The problem is what is factual information concerning gay people and just what do you want to see kids taught about homosexuals. I bet it isn't the CDC Fact Sheets on STD's in America. I bet it isn't that Baron von Steuben and Harvey Milk were sexually interested in boys young enough to be their sons. Unless I'm wrong about the factual information you'd like to see taught it is you, and those like you, that want nothing more than to control what children learn--and what they don't learn.
Wondering

Revere, MA

#9 Wednesday Nov 14
cpeter1313 wrote:
Do I really need to bring up all the old guys with young wives (speaking of Trump again)?
Key word: wives

Did Milk or von Steuben have young spouses?

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“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

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#10 Wednesday Nov 14
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>Key word: wives

Did Milk or von Steuben have young spouses?
Was Trump married to all those porn stars and Russian hookers he mushroomed? Your slanted take on everything gay has been noted for years.
Wondering

Revere, MA

#13 Wednesday Nov 14
NE Jade wrote:
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Was Trump married to all those porn stars and Russian hookers he mushroomed? Your slanted take on everything gay has been noted for years.
Moron, I don't care what Trump did or does. I do care about what's being pushed on kids in public elementary schools. Why are you so f'n stupid? Your 'slant' is to change the subject.

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“Equality marches on! ”

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#14 Wednesday Nov 14
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>Moron, I don't care what Trump did or does. I do care about what's being pushed on kids in public elementary schools. Why are you so f'n stupid? Your 'slant' is to change the subject.
I will definitely remember how orange face triggers you! That was fun! If you care about education get elected onto a school board. Better yet, write Betsy.
Wondering

Revere, MA

#15 Wednesday Nov 14
NE Jade wrote:
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I will definitely remember how orange face triggers you! That was fun! If you care about education get elected onto a school board. Better yet, write Betsy.
You couldn't trigger a cap pistol. Stupidity, in the magnitude you display, is unfortunate. Did you sleep through school? Did you go to school? Face it, you think being called out on your stupidity is fun.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17 Wednesday Nov 14
No, because it wasn't legal. Nor did blacks have white spouses. So it's okay for an old guy to pork a teen girl, but it's bad that a middle-aged gay man has a relationship with a younger man?
Wondering wrote:
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Key word: wives

Did Milk or von Steuben have young spouses?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#18 Wednesday Nov 14
Teaching kids facts isn't "pushing" anything on them. Again, kids know about gay people. Pretending they don't exist is moronic. The schools aren't there to foster your brand of hatred. There are gay kids who have every right to a positive message about being gay, whether you like it or not..
Wondering wrote:
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Moron, I don't care what Trump did or does. I do care about what's being pushed on kids in public elementary schools. Why are you so f'n stupid? Your 'slant' is to change the subject.
Wondering

Revere, MA

#20 Wednesday Nov 14
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, because it wasn't legal.
When was it illegal for an older man to have a young wife? Are you on something?

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whiney beech

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#22 Wednesday Nov 14
No freakin way. They can be exempted in Indiana if parents take time to fill out the necessary forms.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#23 Wednesday Nov 14
What you think is normal is absolutely irrelevant.

Your party ran Roy Moore, who dated teen girls when he was 30. Despite your graphic fantasies, very few gay adults have sexual contact with teens. You also presume that all gay men have anal sex, which is not true at all.
Wondering wrote:
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You can do what ever you want to with your young friends. As for gay sex vs straight sex, you know that I think one is normal and one isn't. Your comparison is interesting. It should read:

So it's okay for an old guy to pork a teen girl, but it's bad that a middle-aged gay man sticks it up a teen boy's butt? Apples to apples.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#24 Wednesday Nov 14
That's not what I said, idiot. Burt it's nice to see that you approve of screwing young girls while pretending to having the moral high ground, hypocrite.
Wondering wrote:
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When was it illegal for an older man to have a young wife? Are you on something?
Wondering

Revere, MA

#25 Wednesday Nov 14
cpeter1313 wrote:
What you think is normal is absolutely irrelevant.

Your party ran Roy Moore, who dated teen girls when he was 30. Despite your graphic fantasies, very few gay adults have sexual contact with teens. You also presume that all gay men have anal sex, which is not true at all.

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One of these days you'll get something right, by accident. I don't care what Roy Moore did and I don't have a party preference. None of your drivel has anything to do with creating a captive audience in a public elementary school and feeding other people's children the very select info supported and supplied by organizations like GLSEN. Parents have a right, a duty, and an obligation to stand up to it if they believe it's wrong or they don't want their kids exposed to it.

BTW, I never presumed that all gay men have anal sex. You must have got that from Pretend Land.
The fantasies appear to be all yours.

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Dr Reker s Bellhop

Philadelphia, PA

#27 Wednesday Nov 14
Wondering wrote:
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So it's okay for an old guy to pork a teen girl, but it's bad that a middle-aged gay man sticks it up a teen boy's butt?
The relevant point is that you do not defame heterosexuals or heterosexuality for the millennia old history of child brides and older, male relatives having sex with younger, female ones. This is because women do not figure in your mentation.

You immediately and only fixate in your scenarios of "middle aged" guys up a "teen boy's butt," and how that's your (anti rational) basis for thinking homosexuality isn't "normal." You don't even mention lesbians while you're being anti lgbt, let alone females generally. It's so revealing of your psychosexual issues that you will never recognize or acknowledge or resolve.

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Dr Reker s Bellhop

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#28 Wednesday Nov 14
Wondering wrote:
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I don't care what Roy Moore did and I don't have a party preference.
Naturally, that involved young girls.

Even if you had mean to type the more sensible, "I don't care for what Roy Moore did," you still aren't using the Roy Moores of Western civilization - they're endemic to it historically and in the present - to defame heterosexuality the way your lurid fantasies of man on teen sex to defame homosexuality.

Also, I think you're lying again. Back when you were showing Tyngsborough and maybe Lowell or some other hamlet as your location you spent a lot of time trying to claim you weren't in a noxious-to-you liberal stronghold. You were hilariously trying to say your area(s) were kind of conservative.

Nutcase urinator, in other words.

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