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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17038 Dec 28, 2013
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How many were "rice christians"?
Most Christians who leave comfort and security for sacrificial service are expressing the fruit of their faith. I would surmise they are 'countless'.

Did you want to compare gays in denial?

Smile.

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#17040 Dec 28, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Most Christians who leave comfort and security for sacrificial service are expressing the fruit of their faith. I would surmise they are 'countless'.
Did you want to compare gays in denial?
Smile.
Let me rephrase ...

How many of the ostensible converts were "rice christians" ?

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#17041 Dec 28, 2013
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My point was that you validate your claim.
You are unable to do so with a credible source.
The dishonesty is all yours. Typical of gay twirl, isn't it.
Smirk.
First. NOT a "claim" but an "assertion".

I provided a source with substantial footnotes and further references and links, mostly to the sects themselves, from which the assertion was drawn.

The author of the summary, stated that the data is based upon the self reportage of the various sects and, as such, is not independently verifiable.

You imply that these data are unreliable.

Again, the sources are the sects themselves, therefore to you the sects themselves are unreliable.

These sects compose "christendom".

Ergo, "christendom" is unreliable in speaking of itself accurately and/or truthfully.

Ergo, "christendom" is unreliable and untruthful.

The sane response must be, "Some are, some are not, or some are more so and others less so."

All this regarding the topic regarding "most christians" being more or less interested in trappings of their club than the message of Yeshua.

According to the numbers supplied by the sects of "christendom" themselves, and the simple observable evidence, it appears that "most christians" DO prefer the trappings to the message, especially since the numbers provided suggest that "most christians" adhere to sects whose primary requirements and expression of membership are liturgical and formalistic in nature.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17042 Dec 28, 2013
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Let me rephrase ...
How many of the ostensible converts were "rice christians" ?
Or members who showed up only on Christmas Eve & Easter?

You'd have to individually inspect the fruit, right?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17043 Dec 28, 2013
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First. NOT a "claim" but an "assertion".
I provided a source with substantial footnotes and further references and links, mostly to the sects themselves, from which the assertion was drawn.
The author of the summary, stated that the data is based upon the self reportage of the various sects and, as such, is not independently verifiable.
You imply that these data are unreliable.
Again, the sources are the sects themselves, therefore to you the sects themselves are unreliable.
These sects compose "christendom".
Ergo, "christendom" is unreliable in speaking of itself accurately and/or truthfully.
Ergo, "christendom" is unreliable and untruthful.
The sane response must be, "Some are, some are not, or some are more so and others less so."
All this regarding the topic regarding "most christians" being more or less interested in trappings of their club than the message of Yeshua.
According to the numbers supplied by the sects of "christendom" themselves, and the simple observable evidence, it appears that "most christians" DO prefer the trappings to the message, especially since the numbers provided suggest that "most christians" adhere to sects whose primary requirements and expression of membership are liturgical and formalistic in nature.
I asserted nothing. The article you provided to validate your claim did no such thing.

You were caught in a deliberate attempt to deceive. Now you are gay twirling to avoid admitting it.

Typical of my experience with gays in denial.

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#17044 Dec 28, 2013
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Or members who showed up only on Christmas Eve & Easter?
You'd have to individually inspect the fruit, right?
Smile.
Or "hatched, latched and dispatched" as the Italians are wont to say.

That is YOUR use of "fruit" which remains to be scripturally validated.

What was his meaning?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17045 Dec 29, 2013
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Or "hatched, latched and dispatched" as the Italians are wont to say.
That is YOUR use of "fruit" which remains to be scripturally validated.
What was his meaning?
My wife and I attended the 50th anniversary celebration of a couple who spent their lives serving all over Africa with stints in Pakistan and Haiti. Some with a religious organization, and some with the US State Dept aid work.

She was a young widow with a 2 year old daughter when they met and married. Had one child together, and adopted 3 more (Caucasian, African, and Indian). The African & Indian stood and gave 10 reasons why they knew they were the children of the couple. Person after person related how they had served them, not in their profession, but personally. Powerful and precious.

Not sure how they relate to 'hatched, latched and dispatched', but they are typical of my experience with Christians.

You are typical of my experience with gays.

That's what I mean by fruit.

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#17046 Dec 29, 2013
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My wife and I attended the 50th anniversary celebration of a couple who spent their lives serving all over Africa with stints in Pakistan and Haiti. Some with a religious organization, and some with the US State Dept aid work.
She was a young widow with a 2 year old daughter when they met and married. Had one child together, and adopted 3 more (Caucasian, African, and Indian). The African & Indian stood and gave 10 reasons why they knew they were the children of the couple. Person after person related how they had served them, not in their profession, but personally. Powerful and precious.
Not sure how they relate to 'hatched, latched and dispatched', but they are typical of my experience with Christians.
You are typical of my experience with gays.
That's what I mean by fruit.
(DNF stop laughing! You'll hurt yourself)

So you are asserting that Yeshua meant the same thing that you do by "fruits".

Can you support that?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17047 Dec 29, 2013
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(DNF stop laughing! You'll hurt yourself)
So you are asserting that Yeshua meant the same thing that you do by "fruits".
Can you support that?
Those acts are not the fruit of their faith? Moreover, they don't count?

You think their life of sacrifice is funny?

How gay.

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#17048 Dec 29, 2013
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Those acts are not the fruit of their faith? Moreover, they don't count?
You think their life of sacrifice is funny?
How gay.
That's not the question was it? That's interpretation, derived, and idiosyncratic.

Still waiting.
LOLreally

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#17050 Mar 25, 2014
I've been to Hawaii. To me, it's paradise. A garden of Eden. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So much for the Rainbow State... literally.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

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#17051 Apr 10, 2014
LOLreally wrote:
I've been to Hawaii. To me, it's paradise. A garden of Eden. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So much for the Rainbow State... literally.
Live and let live, and by God (yes, you just made a deity blush), please update your talking points! If Steve did exist, Adam fell prey to a sic pack of beer!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17052 Apr 11, 2014
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.
An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.

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#17053 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?...
You'll just have to wait and ask them when you meet them.
KiMare

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#17054 Apr 11, 2014
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You'll just have to wait and ask them when you meet them.
Good suggestion.
So far every single one has acknowledged a deep sense of inferiority.

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#17055 Apr 11, 2014
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Good suggestion.
So far every single one has acknowledged a deep sense of inferiority.
"Inferiority in how they are treated socially and legally; in other words extrinsically, or intrinsically?

How was this expressed in words, literally?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#17057 Apr 11, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Won't same sex couples feel inferior next to diverse gendered couples, especially when the latter have children?
No, why would we? And the former can have children as well, so that was just stupid adding that to your question.
KiMare wrote:
A cultural relationship is defined by specific details. There is significant differences between a diverse gendered couple and a duplicate gendered couple. There is also a profound difference between a relationship that bears fruit, and one that never does.
You adding "profound" doesn't make it so. And all couples have significant differences. You seem to think differences matter about something. They don't.
KiMare wrote:
An example for just part of the question is the difficulty a heterosexual couple unable to bear children experiences.
No that isn't an example, because that heterosexual couple doesn't feel inferior. Nor do they think their differences are profound.

You're an idiot Gregory Kirschmann.
Jonny

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#17059 May 21, 2014
So we're up to 18 states & DC w/legal same-sex marriage and three others where mixed-sex marriage has been struck down, now on appeal as of 5/20/2014 but surely to stand. This leaves 32 states explicitly banning gay marriage.

Notice how one total keeps going up and the other keeps going down...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#17060 May 21, 2014
Jonny wrote:
So we're up to 18 states & DC w/legal same-sex marriage and three others where mixed-sex marriage has been struck down, now on appeal as of 5/20/2014 but surely to stand. This leaves 32 states explicitly banning gay marriage.
Notice how one total keeps going up and the other keeps going down...
Notice how SS couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointless duplication gender halves of marriage? Inferior right off the bat.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#17061 May 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Notice how SS couples are only ever mutually sterile, pointless duplication gender halves of marriage? Inferior right off the bat.
Notice how your opinions mean absolutely nothing to anyone other than yourself. And yes, you are inferior. You always have been.

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