At 0-32, gay-marriage forces seek 1st win at polls

Oct 14, 2012 Full story: WZVN-TV Fort Myers 51

President Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney are each forgoing time on the campaign trail in favor of hours of intense debate preparation ahead of their next face-to-face meeting.

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Since: Aug 11

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#21 Oct 14, 2012
Hey clown from Minneapolis?

What's with all the handles?

No balls huh?
Jackson

United States

#22 Oct 14, 2012
Will you queers finally stop whining on 11/07/12 when gay marriage is voted down for the upteenth time?
Circular Cemetery

Pittsfield, MA

#23 Oct 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
Hey clown from Minneapolis?
What's with all the handles?
No balls huh?
Clown from Minny? Kettle meet black.
5n1p3r

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Oct 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Your God doesn't exist.
STFU
Prove it.
Thirty Three Triangles

Pittsfield, MA

#25 Oct 14, 2012
Only a name like wastewater would deny her own existence in reality. DUH?
col712

Houston, TX

#26 Oct 14, 2012
I don't believe in fairy tales so you need to think of another arguement. One that can be justified. If anyone is a freak, it is those that pick and choose which bible verse to follow.
NE Jade wrote:
Marriage is a sacrament bestowed by God upon opposite sex couples, NOT same sex freaks!!!
col712

Houston, TX

#27 Oct 14, 2012
So says your church..OPEN YOUR EARS AND EYES and maybe you will understand. Did you choose to be hetro? Did you choose to participate in all things hetro? I haven't either. Many of the hetro things were crammed down my throat. Your arguement is worthless. I and most others choose to live our lives not yours!
Ghost of Paterno wrote:
<quoted text> Hate to break it to you, but people who claim to be homosexuals aren't analogous to being a race either.
Homosexuals are found in every race and choose to engage in homosexual behavior, except for the child-victims of homosexual pedophiles, who were also 'born that way'.
Rumper Room

Pittsfield, MA

#28 Oct 14, 2012
col712 wrote:
I don't believe in fairy tales so you need to think of another arguement. One that can be justified. If anyone is a freak, it is those that pick and choose which bible verse to follow.
<quoted text>
Fairy tails?
So why do two men try to have a baby from the rear?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#29 Oct 14, 2012
Chief Justice Roberts upholds the Dems in a historical victory
peer reviewed scientist

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Oct 14, 2012
Rumper Room wrote:
<quoted text>
Fairy tails?
So why do two men try to have a baby from the rear?
Probably to try to have sex with the result of their "love", a pile of turds.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#32 Oct 14, 2012
Ghost of Paterno wrote:
<quoted text>Whoever coined the term homofascist has the pulse of contemporary worldwide political trends.
The term homofascist is highly prescient in predictivity, but also acknowledges the ideological and international aspects of the conflict.
what a bunch of meaningless drivel.... Stay in school.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#33 Oct 14, 2012
I'm beyond clueless -- way, way beyond clueless -- as to why the pro-gay aren't representing this "32-to-0" statistic for what it is.

I have never seen a pro-gay source begin to explain that lies, slander and misrepresentations are the culprit here; that these "victories" are literally victories for lies, slander and misrepresentations.

I must be missing something. This statistic is meaningful "in name only"; it doesn't speak *FOR* so-called "traditional marriage." It speaks *FOR* lies and slander. It makes lies and slander into "American values."

It's the equivalent of taking someone to court, slandering them nonstop and lying to the jury about the crime, getting them convicted, and then cheering about it. Yet 100.0% of antigay people to whom that happened *would be screeching and appealing to the next court and the next and the next*; their reaction would be ten times WORSE than that of the pro-gay to this statistic.

Every time I see this statistic, I feel the pro-gay are doing themselves a disservice not to *tirelessly* explain why it is mendacious, misleading and false.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#34 Oct 14, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Not civil marriage.
Religion is irrelevant.
Try again fool.
This time around, one smart thing being done (in a paradigm which I despise so much I can barely speak of it) is, at least, that marriage rights are *relentlessly* being represented as secular; it is being explained *tirelessly* that this has *zero* to do with church marriage.

It's really, really, really difficult for me to have the slightest respect for these popular votes, but at least there is that much.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#35 Oct 14, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>The 0-32 stat is inaccurate. For one thing if fails to recognize that the ban on SSM in Arizona FAILED the first time.
It also doesn't take into account the number of States where the anti gays attempted ballot initiatives but failed to get enough support to put the question to a popular vote.
These are facts the anti gays hope no one will notice or bring up. Because when people do start seeing the lie behind the claimed success of the movement they usually start to distance themselves from these groups.
Dude,

... see, I don't get this.

It fails to take into account that it is *LIES* which brought the 32 so-called "wins." I, too, could take 15 antigay individuals, please, TAKE YOUR PICK among them all, pick them freely, I can take them to court and represent to juries that they committed murder and theft and embezzlement and get ALL FIFTEEN of them convicted. Simple as pie.

That's what the antigay are doing. The "32-0" statistic ignores the fact that *fact* is not being represented in each of the state campaigns and that those voting against marriage equality are not basing their vote in *fact*; as a matter of fact, chillingly, they're doing the same thing a *RACIST* would be doing if he voted *AGAINST* desegregation, basing his vote in lies and chillingly mendacious statistics or, worse, anecdotal contexts.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#36 Oct 14, 2012
Ghost of Paterno wrote:
<quoted text> Hate to break it to you, but people who claim to be homosexuals aren't analogous to being a race either.
Homosexuals are found in every race and choose to engage in homosexual behavior, except for the child-victims of homosexual pedophiles, who were also 'born that way'.
And arguments like this are why people will continue to *literally ignore* any claim that "black" should never be compared to "gay."

That you lie *knowingly and deliberately*, knowing you're lying, ends your right to claim no one should compare black and gay.

These so-called "pastors" -- viciously, animally hateful, seething with demonism -- have only made the situation exponentially worse. They are like monsters beyond reason, voting against their own self-interest at this point, so obsessed are they. You remind me of them.

I urge the antigay to *go to court* and literally *PROVE* for all time that orientation is a choice. In fact, at this point -- and very, very, very fascinatingly -- it is *in NO WAY whatsoever* the onus of the pro-gay to prove it's not a choice; everything that has become a *LEGAL ISSUE* about marriage equality concerns itself with *BLOCKING* the rights of gay people, and so the onus is upon the *ANTIGAY* to prove that it is a choice.

At this point, courts have ruled *for* marriage equality to an extent that if they *were literally the Supreme Court*, you would have lost this entire battle. It is now immaterial what further courts say *in terms of the legal onus*(this is open to argument; I would argue it until literally the *very end of time itself* so why even bother?); they are now the "refuge" of antigay persons who want these verdicts reversed.

You are welcome to take your case to court. In the meantime,*literal science, medicine and psychology* are the "refuge" of the pro-gay who have fact on their side that would d-e-s-t-r-o-y your case in court ... but you're welcome to try.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#37 Oct 14, 2012
I have no further patience for any of this because I believe at this point, it should be handled in the legal realm. To me, all the rest is simply babble: constantly libelous, slanderous antigay claims against gay people which *could be settled* in court for legal and medical/scientific purposes, which needs to happen too badly for words. The "32-to-0" statistic is, moreover, horrifically misleading and has nothing to do with anything but values I wouldn't teach the most snot-nosed, rapist demon I could find; all it does is place upon a pedestal such "values" as mendacity, manipulation, lies, hatred, greed, anger, prejudice, and so on. Such "American" values, those.

Be proud, America, of your "values."

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#38 Oct 15, 2012
Ghost of Paterno wrote:
<quoted text>Whoever coined the term homofascist has the pulse of contemporary worldwide political trends.
The term homofascist is highly prescient in predictivity, but also acknowledges the ideological and international aspects of the conflict.
Again, please show where fascism supports equal protection under the law. Thanks.

Since: Aug 11

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#39 Oct 15, 2012
Thirty Three Triangles wrote:
Only a name like wastewater would deny her own existence in reality. DUH?
Moronic post.

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Boy Poofters

Pittsfield, MA

#42 Oct 15, 2012
Well I see Hi Hi's therapy has failed him once again.
Rumper Room

Pittsfield, MA

#43 Oct 15, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>Butt babies...LMFAO at the queertards!!!
Brown Butt Babies. Oh dear! Oh my!!!

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