America opposes gay marriage

The New York Times on Nov. 11 reported Maine's rejection of same-sex marriage as "a stinging setback for the national gay-rights movement." It repealed the state's new law allowing same-sex marriage passed by the Legislature in May. Full Story
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Not for me

Easthampton, MA

#2 Dec 2, 2009
I'm not gay but I'm glad the masses haven't had the chance to vote on any of my liberties.
I guarantee that each of us cherishes a tradition or holds dear a belief that a majority of those voting in any particular election may find repugnant--and strip away the the right to express that belief or practice that tradition.
Same sex marriage does not threaten me or my fifteen-year marriage.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, remember?
PDupont

South Hadley, MA

#5 Dec 2, 2009
Doomed wrote:
The West Point Cadets do not trust The President of the United States of America.
This is bad. Very bad. And all the socialists in America today do not understand why.
a. Who the hell are you to speak for someone else?
b. What does this have to do with the discussion at hand?\
c. You’re a cretin.
Up Too Early

United States

#7 Dec 2, 2009
"These events show that if voters are given the facts about same-sex marriage, and the opportunity to reject legislation or rulings supporting it, they will do so." What this actually shows is that the majority, out of fear and/or ignorance, will vote against rights for the minority. Every time. Read your history. Massachusetts got it right.

And, if what Mr. Murphy is trying to say is that gays are being punished with HIV/AIDS, I respectfully disagree. At the end of 2008, women accounted for 50% of all adults living with HIV worldwide.
Jeffrey Reel

Stamford, CT

#11 Dec 2, 2009
Up Too Early wrote:
"These events show that if voters are given the facts about same-sex marriage, and the opportunity to reject legislation or rulings supporting it, they will do so." What this actually shows is that the majority, out of fear and/or ignorance, will vote against rights for the minority. Every time. Read your history. Massachusetts got it right.
And, if what Mr. Murphy is trying to say is that gays are being punished with HIV/AIDS, I respectfully disagree. At the end of 2008, women accounted for 50% of all adults living with HIV worldwide.
Most Americans think that our constitutional democracy was established to protect the rights of the majority. Just the opposite is true. It was based upon the belief that minority opinion be protected from the majority.

Murphy writes: "According to Natural Law, normal and natural marriage can only be between a man and a woman." Will someone please point out to me any and all "natural laws" having to do with actual marriage. I never knew nature had a law about marriage. Here I am thinking that humans created the legal institution called "marriage."

Dick Cheney, the unflinching watchdog of Conservative values, uncharacteristically defends same-sex marriage. In this regard, he generously offers "Freedom means freedom for everyone." Why does he make this exception and veer so sharply from Conservative dogma? Quite simply, his daughter is gay, and she is raising a son with her partner. "Freedom" would not have meant "freedom for everyone" had his daughter not been gay. It all came down to matters of the heart. It always should. Not ignorance and fear.

A gay soldier will take a bullet for us in time of war to protect our lives and our liberty, including the right to marry. They deserve nothing less than the same basic rights and privileges.
Jeffrey Reel

Stamford, CT

#12 Dec 2, 2009
Sanity wrote:
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Ooooooooooooooooooh. A cretin.
Why? Because he dares disagree with the great PDupont und Sein Fuhrer, Herr Obama?
'Liberals' resort to name-calling so often because the facts aren't on their side, they're not on the side of facts, or the facts they have are manipulated, innacurate, misleading and/or incomplete.
Have a good day.
Insanity writes: "...PDupont und Sein Fuhrer, Herr Obama"

He goes on to write: "Liberals resort to name-calling so often because the facts aren't on their side."

Anything wrong with this picture?
Jack Spratt

Albany, NY

#16 Dec 2, 2009
Natural Law? I fail to see the relevance. Many years ago, didn't those who espoused "Natural Law" use that as an excuse to not allow blacks to vote, because "Natural Law" stated that they were further down the chain? Is that what we use, "Natural Law", to ensure that we always have some group of people that we can then justify holding down so that the rest of us can feel superior?

I simply don't get it. If 2 same sex people want to get married, how does that affect me? Why would I object? Why wouldn't those 2 people have the opportunity to have the same legal rights and obligations that I have? I do understand (although I don't agree) why some religions would disallow it based on their own dogma. However, that is exactly the difference between church and state.

I wonder if most of the objections to same sex marriage honestly is an effort to protect what some view to be "natural law" or protection of their religious beliefs. If so, no thank you. I don't want anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs and convert it into secular law. Otherwise, I simply have to believe that is is nothing more than an age old effort to make sure that there is always a group of people less fortunate or denied access to something so that the rest of us can feel superior.

It's shameful that there still remains a significant portion of our population that insists on legislating personal and religious beliefs or what they call "morality" for everyone else. I'm not gay, but "viva la difference". It simply does not have any negative affect on me to simply not legislate restrictions for this minority group or any other.
burn

Pittsfield, MA

#17 Dec 2, 2009
I see Mr. Murphy is at it again. With him it's either abortion or gay marriage. How pathetic.
Let me inform mr. Murphy and the other homophobes that gays will be allowed to marry in the near future. Demographics are on their side. The majority of opposition to gay marriage is led by people in the 55-75 age bracket. Younger people are much more accepting to the concept. When this demographic dies off, gay people will finally get their civil rights.
abc

Provincetown, MA

#18 Dec 2, 2009
All are created equal, love one another as Christ loves you, love your neighbor as yourself, we are ALL created in the image and likeness of God. Mind your own business, live and let live. Smile God loves you and you and you and you......

“Even an Ice Princess can melt.”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#19 Dec 2, 2009
Samuel Barns wrote:
Yes, why is it that given the vote, gay marriage is consistently voted out? Why are these decisions always made behind closed doors?
Anyone who dares to protest will suffer. Isn't this how tyrants come to power? They belittle, intimidate, mock and cause others to walk in fear of them. There is nothing polite about these discussions or differing beliefs.
Those who grew up with traditional values and belief in a higher power and standard, are being demanded to throw out their belief system. You can't demand people love you, and you can't demand people to think out of your head. We all think differently.
The gay community demands that all men think out of their heads. Impossible. We all march to a different drummer.
How would you feel if people voted your rights away. Oh wait it wouldnt happen. And were just gay what do me matter anyways right. Its ok to vote to take our rights away.
Out Proud and Loud

United States

#20 Dec 2, 2009
A big thanks to the Eagle for printing this anti gay garbage. Murphy is a hateful, misinformed bigot. Giving him a forum only makes it worse but I guess that he has a right to spout his bigotry.

Five states, through their elected representatives and/or the courts, have made same sex marriage legal. One of them had a referendum and the right was revoked. Over the years, more states will see that there is no point in denying a minority group their rights. Deal with it Jack.
Out Proud and Loud

United States

#21 Dec 2, 2009
Sanity wrote:
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Yes. Some 'Liberals' can't tell the difference between allusions/satire, and outright name-calling.
No matter, the gist remains valid.
[:-(
and some idiots are incapable of understanding how hateful they are, and will justify anything. That's you, pal.
Jeffrey Reel

Stamford, CT

#23 Dec 2, 2009
Jack Murphy wrote:
I am glad the Eagle printed my letter. I am not done with trying to drive gays back into the holes they belong in. The Germans had it right in the 1940's - these people belong in camps, for deviating from natural law.
Nothing really needs to be added to this statement. It stands alone as one of the darkest and most hateful statements I have seen in years.

Jack Murphy doesn't know squat about what "natural law" means. There is nothing unnatural about being born gay (and don't you love pro-life folks who insist that all pregnancies be brought to term, only to make those who grow up gay or lesbian wish they'd never been born. Heck, Jack wants to gas them like the Nazis did (as well as Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses... they had a long list of groups of people they did not like and, thus, felt justified in exterminating).

Jeez, Jack, why don't you write a Letter to the Editor about how you REALLY feel about gays and see if the Eagle prints THAT. You are one dark soul.
Get Real

Grand Rapids, MI

#24 Dec 2, 2009
Power to the people.......Until the people disagree, then gays will bring it to court.
burn

Pittsfield, MA

#25 Dec 2, 2009
I don't know Jack Murphy personally but I suspect he's an old man, a hateful old man at that. Does he sit in his home alone and try to think up ways to be more creative in his distain for humanity? The world will be a much better place when Mr. Murphy and his ilk depart.
burn

Pittsfield, MA

#30 Dec 2, 2009
Marriage,like sex, should be between two consenting, non related adult human beings. Can it be any more simple than that?
Francis A

Clifton Park, NY

#32 Dec 2, 2009
Sally wrote:
Way to tell it the way it is Murph. For anyone not paying atention this country is in the toilet socially and morally. What will be okay next - sex with Donkeys ?
That is an absurd response. The only donkeys here are you and Jack Murphy! The real problem with this country is pure unbridled greed.... not same sex bridals.
Community Organizer

United States

#34 Dec 2, 2009
Joe wrote:
NY defeats the unnatural act.
http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/assembly-12689...
No, the dysfunctional NY Senate defeated it. The Assembly, the Governor, and 51% of New Yorkers, according to recent Marist and Quinnipiac polls, were in favor of marriage equality. Go F yourself, Joe.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#35 Dec 2, 2009
It is nice to see that there are some morals left in politics
Community Organizer wrote:
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No, the dysfunctional NY Senate defeated it. The Assembly, the Governor, and 51% of New Yorkers, according to recent Marist and Quinnipiac polls, were in favor of marriage equality. Go F yourself, Joe.
Sarah Nadeau

London, UK

#36 Dec 2, 2009
I certainly hope that the Eagle will not let this letter stand on its own. All periodicals serving a public audience have a journalistic responsibility of fairness and balance. I'm offended that this was printed in the first place, but it is the prerogative of the editors to do so. When the dissenting letters come in - and they will in spades - the Eagle must, if it claims to serve the community of the Berkshires as a whole and not simply those who are small-minded bigots, print them. If the "Letters to the Editor" section is a public forum, let all sides of public opinion be heard.
Frank

Pittsfield, MA

#37 Dec 2, 2009
Jeffrey Reel wrote:
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Nothing really needs to be added to this statement. It stands alone as one of the darkest and most hateful statements I have seen in years.
Jack Murphy doesn't know squat about what "natural law" means. There is nothing unnatural about being born gay (and don't you love pro-life folks who insist that all pregnancies be brought to term, only to make those who grow up gay or lesbian wish they'd never been born. Heck, Jack wants to gas them like the Nazis did (as well as Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses... they had a long list of groups of people they did not like and, thus, felt justified in exterminating).
Jeez, Jack, why don't you write a Letter to the Editor about how you REALLY feel about gays and see if the Eagle prints THAT. You are one dark soul.
Very well Written Response. I agree the most people that oppose/Biggots are in the 50's to Elderly. The much Younger generation is more accepting of Gay Marriage. I am looking foward to the Day that these Bigots are NO longer on this earth. That will be the day that we will have "Marriage Equality" for all of us! And Stop being treated like 2nd Class Citizens. Hey Jack why dont you crawl back under the rock which you came from.

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