Triangle: Robinson addresses religion...

Triangle: Robinson addresses religion issues

There are 31 comments on the Q-Notes story from Oct 25, 2013, titled Triangle: Robinson addresses religion issues. In it, Q-Notes reports that:

Bishop Gene Robinson, who was the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, was at North Carolina State University on Oct. 14 speaking on the subject of God Believes in Love, Straight Talk about Gay Marriage at Witherspoon's Campus Cinema.

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Listen to the Word

Kingman, AZ

#1 Oct 25, 2013
Robinson forgets that a loving father (earthly or heavenly)says "No" to things that are bad and/or sinful for their child. It is the loving thing to do.

To say "God believe in love" in promoting the sin of homosexuality is like saying "God commands eating fruit" to Adam and Eve after they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. That sounds more like Satan talking than God talking.

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#2 Oct 25, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Robinson forgets that a loving father (earthly or heavenly)says "No" to things that are bad and/or sinful for their child. It is the loving thing to do.
To say "God believe in love" in promoting the sin of homosexuality ...
All sin is chosen. Being gay is not.

All sin can be prevented through actions. Being gay cannot.

All sin is harmful either to the sinner, or those around him/her. Being gay is not.

Sin harms our relationship with God. Being gay is God's plan for those he created with ONLY the ability to be attracted to the same gender.

That's an odd sin, isn't it?

It is innate, can't be changed, harms no one, and does not prevent anyone from enjoying a deep personal relationship with God.

You need to give a bit more though to your premise, I think.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#3 Oct 26, 2013
Quest wrote:
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All sin is chosen. Being gay is not.
All sin can be prevented through actions ...
Not according the Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5:27-8).

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#4 Oct 26, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Robinson forgets that a loving father (earthly or heavenly)says "No" to things that are bad and/or sinful for their child. It is the loving thing to do.
To say "God believe in love" in promoting the sin of homosexuality is like saying "God commands eating fruit" to Adam and Eve after they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. That sounds more like Satan talking than God talking.
Why do you pick and choose which Old Testament commands to follow and which ones to ignore ? Did Jesus follow all of the Old Testament commands ?

Or did He sit down with the boys after a hard day's work at Jesus' Discount Furniture & Carpentry Shoppe and quaff some brewskies with his friends, Romans, and countrymen ?

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#5 Oct 26, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Not according the Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5:27-8).
Which sins cannot be prevented by human thoughts, choices, or actions?

List 5.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Oct 26, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Which sins cannot be prevented by human thoughts, choices, or actions?
List 5.
Even just one wouldn't be any less a sin, but many are in the Sermon on the Mount, which you apparently didn't bother to read.

Let's start with adultery (Matt. 5:27-8) and murder (v. 21-22), then add lust, envy, covetousness -- a commandment -- pride and arrogance.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#7 Oct 26, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Why do you pick and choose which Old Testament commands to follow and which ones to ignore ? Did Jesus follow all of the Old Testament commands ?
Or did He sit down with the boys after a hard day's work at Jesus' Discount Furniture & Carpentry Shoppe and quaff some brewskies with his friends, Romans, and countrymen ?
I checked The Gay Agenda's surveillance tape and here is the answer:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bassano/...

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#8 Oct 27, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Even just one wouldn't be any less a sin, but many are in the Sermon on the Mount, which you apparently didn't bother to read.
Let's start with adultery (Matt. 5:27-8) and murder (v. 21-22), then add lust, envy, covetousness -- a commandment -- pride and arrogance.
You didn't answer his question.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#9 Oct 28, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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You didn't answer his question.
You didn't read my answer: Let's start with adultery (Matt. 5:27-8) and murder (v. 21-22), then add lust, envy, covetousness -- a commandment -- pride and arrogance.

Some of the above belong to the deadly seven sins: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.

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#10 Oct 28, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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You didn't read my answer: Let's start with adultery (Matt. 5:27-8) and murder (v. 21-22), then add lust, envy, covetousness -- a commandment -- pride and arrogance.
Some of the above belong to the deadly seven sins: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.
Odd that being gay isn't mentioned.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#11 Oct 28, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Odd that being gay isn't mentioned.
As if lust and the other deadly sins were restricted to only heterosexuals.

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#12 Oct 28, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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As if lust and the other deadly sins were restricted to only heterosexuals.
Your answer is that heterosexuals and homosexuals may be found committing the same sins.

Yes, it is true.

There is no difference as far as being either heterosexual or homosexual as to sin.

Neither is there any difference regarding mercy and forgiveness.

Neither is there any difference as far as their ability and natural inclination to seek a mate, fall in love and commit to an exclusive commitment of trust and intimacy.

There is no difference, from their point of view. And for them, that is all that really counts.

But, they also deserve the benefits of a lawful civil union and marriage.

This, they will get, including God's blessing.

Rev. Ken

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#13 Oct 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Your answer is that heterosexuals and homosexuals may be found committing the same sins.
Yes, it is true.
There is no difference as far as being either heterosexual or homosexual as to sin.
Neither is there any difference regarding mercy and forgiveness.
Neither is there any difference as far as their ability and natural inclination to seek a mate, fall in love and commit to an exclusive commitment of trust and intimacy.
There is no difference, from their point of view ...
... but the Bible was not written from their point of view.

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#14 Oct 29, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... but the Bible was not written from their point of view.
Well,.....

They always have the words of Jesus to go by, don't they?

Yes. They do.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#15 Oct 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Well,.....
They always have the words of Jesus to go by, don't they?
Yes. They do.
"Well,......."

Let's stop here for a minute, Ken-

Earlier today, you had this to say RE: any reliances I might make upon "the words of Jesus"-

"First of all, Jesus Christ didn't write the words in the Gospels that are attributed to Him. Somebody else did. Furthermore, those who wrote of what He said, wrote decades AFTER He said those words. If you want to discuss errors of omission, talk about those authors."

You seem to not find them reliable as a basis for belief. Is that only for MY beliefs, or what?

Very confusing. Please clarify lest we think you're leading Joe to a snipe hunt.

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#16 Oct 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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"Well,......."
Let's stop here for a minute, Ken-
Earlier today, you had this to say RE: any reliances I might make upon "the words of Jesus"-
"First of all, Jesus Christ didn't write the words in the Gospels that are attributed to Him. Somebody else did. Furthermore, those who wrote of what He said, wrote decades AFTER He said those words. If you want to discuss errors of omission, talk about those authors."
You seem to not find them reliable as a basis for belief. Is that only for MY beliefs, or what?
Very confusing. Please clarify lest we think you're leading Joe to a snipe hunt.
LOL!!!....

It's your snipe hunt, Dan.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#17 Oct 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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LOL!!!....
It's your snipe hunt, Dan.
That's not a rebuttal.

I'll take the point.

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#18 Oct 29, 2013
Dan wrote:
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That's not a rebuttal.
I'll take the point.
You are welcome to it.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#19 Oct 30, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Well,.....
They always have the words of Jesus to go by ...
According to TEC Bishop Kate Schori, they can go by Budda's and Mohammad's words, too.

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#20 Oct 30, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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According to TEC Bishop Kate Schori, they can go by Budda's and Mohammad's words, too.
A false statement intending to mischaracterize.

Tsk, tsk.

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."

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