Audience urges board to 'stop the indifference:" Chambersburg school...

Feb 27, 2013 Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion 405

UPDATED: CHAMBERSBURG -- Nine Chambersburg Area school board members were told that gay, lesbian and transgender teens are three times more likely to kill themselves than their peers, and that the same students feel more disenfranchised and bullied than any other group.

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Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#21 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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Let the kids have their club. Without repentence They will die in their sins and go to hell for eternity. So let them have their season of fun now.
What are they repenting for? That God choose to make them attracted ONLY to the same gender? Or that they care about the lives of the gay kids, even if they are straight?

How does one repent of natural traits or caring for others?

Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#22 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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Sounds like a description the liberals have for christians. That would fall under the "religion" part of your definition.
Many Christians ARE liberals. After all Jesus was a liberal, wasn't he? He certainly wasn't a conservative.

Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#23 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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So quoting the apostle paul is hateful behavior? I can just imagine the church you attend.
Only if you twist Bible verses to use as a clubs against people you don't like or understand.

And, when in doubt, turn to what words are attributed to Jesus.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
There is right and wrong.
And a great deal of disagreement as to which is which.
buckle up wrote:
For christians the bible is truth.
And yet different Christians find different truths in it.
buckle up wrote:
Some will die in their sins and go to hell. Others will repent and trust christ and will go to heaven.
And what any of that actually means has been open to debate as long as there have been Christians.
buckle up wrote:
For 6000 years homosexuality was known to be a sin based on the old and new testaments.
That in itself is your choice of a belief, supported neither by history nor scripture. The Bible says ALL sex is sinful, even that within the bonds of holy matrimony and done for strictly procreative purposes with enjoyment thereof kept to an absolute minimum. Being married to them is just your way of repenting for needing/wanting to do it. The point is that many things can be learned from the Bible.
buckle up wrote:
Just because the past 40 years has seen as drastic movement in public opinion doesnt change the bible.
No one needs to change the Bible sweetie, just the minds of some of those who claim to know what it actually says.
buckle up wrote:
Romans 1 is clear about the sin and consequences of those who are unrepentent homosexuals.
Take this bit for example. I've read the Bible dear. Paul is writing to a presumably heterosexual audience when he wrote to the Roman Church. He is warning them of God's displeasure with their engaging in IDOLATRY and how GOD is engaging in an ongoing campaign of paybacks for their commission of that sin. The first is that he made them go against THEIR nature and engaging in acts that Paul was totally freaked by, but then again, in his mind, all sex is sinful. I don't know about you, but for someone who is homosexual, God having them engage in same sex sexual acts doesn't seem like much of a punishment for their idolatry. That is why there was a whole series of recompenses for that sin.
buckle up wrote:
If im a bigot for believing this way then ill accept the role since it is the bible.
Dear, you can blame God and the Bible all you want for YOUR choices, but they are still YOUR choices. You picked the beliefs you say God has given to you, He hasn't picked them for you. You have heard of free will haven't you? Well, that is exactly what you are exercising.
buckle up

Shippensburg, PA

#25 Mar 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>And a great deal of disagreement as to which is which. buckle up wrote, " For christians the bible is truth."

And yet different Christians find different truths in it. buckle up wrote, " Some will die in their sins and go to hell. Others will repent and trust christ and will go to heaven."

And what any of that actually means has been open to debate as long as there have been Christians. buckle up wrote, " For 6000 years homosexuality was known to be a sin based on the old and new testaments."

That in itself is your choice of a belief, supported neither by history nor scripture. The Bible says ALL sex is sinful, even that within the bonds of holy matrimony and done for strictly procreative purposes with enjoyment thereof kept to an absolute minimum. Being married to them is just your way of repenting for needing/wanting to do it. The point is that many things can be learned from the Bible. buckle up wrote, " Just because the past 40 years has seen as drastic movement in public opinion doesnt change the bible. "

No one needs to change the Bible sweetie, just the minds of some of those who claim to know what it actually says. buckle up wrote, "Romans 1 is clear about the sin and consequences of those who are unrepentent homosexuals."

Take this bit for example. I've read the Bible dear. Paul is writing to a presumably heterosexual audience when he wrote to the Roman Church. He is warning them of God's displeasure with their engaging in IDOLATRY and how GOD is engaging in an ongoing campaign of paybacks for their commission of that sin. The first is that he made them go against THEIR nature and engaging in acts that Paul was totally freaked by, but then again, in his mind, all sex is sinful. I don't know about you, but for someone who is homosexual, God having them engage in same sex sexual acts doesn't seem like much of a punishment for their idolatry. That is why there was a whole series of recompenses for that sin. buckle up wrote, " If im a bigot for believing this way then ill accept the role since it is the bible. "

Dear, you can blame God and the Bible all you want for YOUR choices, but they are still YOUR choices. You picked the beliefs you say God has given to you, He hasn't picked them for you. You have heard of free will haven't you? Well, that is exactly what you are exercising.
Give me new testament chapter and verse that says all sex is sin.
Winston Smith

Chambersburg, PA

#26 Mar 3, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Many Christians ARE liberals. After all Jesus was a liberal, wasn't he? He certainly wasn't a conservative.
Jesus did not approve of abortion, and neither do conservatives.
Really

Chambersburg, PA

#29 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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There is a difference between hate and honest disagreement. I don't hate homosexuals. I disagree with their lifestyle and for that I'm called a homophobe. The left screams for tolerance but they are the most intolerant of all.
The old and new testaments both call homosexuality a sin. The deviant interpretations put forth by dtm of romans 1 is pure folly. I'd like to know which famous well known bible authority and scholar in the past 2000 years has had the same interpretation as dtm.
jbt hypocrite, is that you?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#30 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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There is a difference between hate and honest disagreement. I don't hate homosexuals. I disagree with their lifestyle and for that I'm called a homophobe. The left screams for tolerance but they are the most intolerant of all.
The old and new testaments both call homosexuality a sin. The deviant interpretations put forth by dtm of romans 1 is pure folly. I'd like to know which famous well known bible authority and scholar in the past 2000 years has had the same interpretation as dtm.
Both Old and New Testaments condemn abusive and harmful sexuality. Nowhere does the Bible condemn same sex practices within a loving and committed relationship.

I'm sorry, but this is just plain fact.

People have long distorted scripture to justify their hatred and bigotry toward homosexuals, just like they have used it to justify slavery and the subservience of women.

But the Bible simply does not say what you claim it does. You bring a pre-existing belief and twist the scripture to support that belief.

The fact that the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality is likely as new to you as the idea that owning other human beings as property was new to Christians 200 years ago. But that doesn't make it wrong. It makes YOU wrong.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#31 Mar 3, 2013
Jesus' philosophy, based in compassion, equality, inclusion, forgiveness, tolerance, peace, and love is 100% liberal.

- He told rich people to redistribute their wealth among the poor.
- He taught his followers to forgive debts and expect nothing back when they lend.
- He was a pacifist.
- He told the religious establishment that justice and mercy were more important than precisely following God's commands.
- He taught compassion for the alien, equality for women, and justice for the oppressed.
- He hung around with prostitutes and sinners, showing love, mercy, and forgiveness to everyone he met.

Unless the right wants to claim those as conservative qualities, Jesus was unquestioningly liberal.
buckle up

Shippensburg, PA

#32 Mar 3, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Jesus' philosophy, based in compassion, equality, inclusion, forgiveness, tolerance, peace, and love is 100% liberal.
- He told rich people to redistribute their wealth among the poor.
- He taught his followers to forgive debts and expect nothing back when they lend.
- He was a pacifist.
- He told the religious establishment that justice and mercy were more important than precisely following God's commands.
- He taught compassion for the alien, equality for women, and justice for the oppressed.
- He hung around with prostitutes and sinners, showing love, mercy, and forgiveness to everyone he met.
Unless the right wants to claim those as conservative qualities, Jesus was unquestioningly liberal.
And in the past 2000 year which Christian authority, well known scholar, Bible School president, famous pastor, apostle, prophet, evangelist and teacher, etc. agrees with you?
Winston Smith

Chambersburg, PA

#33 Mar 3, 2013
Really wrote:
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jbt hypocrite, is that you?
Dan the man, is that you?
Winston Smith

Chambersburg, PA

#34 Mar 3, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Both Old and New Testaments condemn abusive and harmful sexuality. Nowhere does the Bible condemn same sex practices within a loving and committed relationship.
I'm sorry, but this is just plain fact.
People have long distorted scripture to justify their hatred and bigotry toward homosexuals, just like they have used it to justify slavery and the subservience of women.
But the Bible simply does not say what you claim it does. You bring a pre-existing belief and twist the scripture to support that belief.
The fact that the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality is likely as new to you as the idea that owning other human beings as property was new to Christians 200 years ago. But that doesn't make it wrong. It makes YOU wrong.
Wrong! As usual.
There are many Bible verses that condemn homosexuality. The big one is Leviticus 20 : 13.........If a man also lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death ; their blood shall be upon them.

I'm not doing your work for you...look it up and you will find more.

Oh by the way...Leviticus 20:13 is spoken by God to Moses. I think God knows much more then the topix joke, Dan the man.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#35 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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And in the past 2000 year which Christian authority, well known scholar, Bible School president, famous pastor, apostle, prophet, evangelist and teacher, etc. agrees with you?
And over the past 2000 years, how many Christian authorities, well known scholars, Bible School presidents, famous pastors, apostles, prophets, evangelists and teachers, etc. used the Bible to support slavery?

And over the past 2000 years, how many Christian authorities, well known scholars, Bible School presidents, famous pastors, apostles, prophets, evangelists and teachers, etc. used the Bible to support the subjugation of women?

Thank God people who were serious about scripture and knowing God recognized that church tradition and how they had always been taught scripture was wrong.

Church tradition doesn't determine morality, the Bible does. Church tradition has been wrong before and it is wrong on this issue.

And no matter how much you want it to, the Bible simply does not condemn loving, committed homosexual relationships.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#36 Mar 3, 2013
Leviticus 18:22-23, 20:13 - This is the only place the OT law codes that references male/male sex. And the reason it was disallowed was because it "wasted seed" just like sex during menstruation and masturbation. No mention of female/female sex at all, so evidently lesbianism was ok.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#37 Mar 3, 2013
Really wrote:
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jbt hypocrite, is that you?
LOL! Does this sound familiar?
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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Which commentators agree with you that when the scripture speaks of man/man, woman/woman sex, homosexuality, perversion, etc. etc. that he's not speaking of monogomous committed mutually submissive same sex unions.
I want to know which major preachers over the past 2000 years, which commentators agree with the differentiation.
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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You still haven't been able to give me the names of prominent preachers over the past 2000 years who have the same views on homosexuality as you do.
Really

Chambersburg, PA

#38 Mar 3, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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LOL! Does this sound familiar?
<quoted text>
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yes it does, thank you.
buckle up

Shippensburg, PA

#39 Mar 3, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Does this sound familiar?

jtb_hypocrite wrote, "<quoted text>
Which commentators agree with you that when the scripture speaks of man/man, woman/woman sex, homosexuality, perversion, etc. etc. that he's not speaking of monogomous committed mutually submissive same sex unions.
I want to know which major preachers over the past 2000 years, which commentators agree with the differentiation.
"

jtb_hypocrite wrote, "<quoted text>
You still haven't been able to give me the names of prominent preachers over the past 2000 years who have the same views on homosexuality as you do.
"
Lololll. Dan the man child. I was wondering how long it would take you false prophet types to know it was me.

Its almost sad to realize you have had nothing better to do over the past 2-3-4 years than spread your ungodly false teaching to the unsuspecting.
buckle up

Shippensburg, PA

#40 Mar 3, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Does this sound familiar?

jtb_hypocrite wrote, "<quoted text>
Which commentators agree with you that when the scripture speaks of man/man, woman/woman sex, homosexuality, perversion, etc. etc. that he's not speaking of monogomous committed mutually submissive same sex unions.
I want to know which major preachers over the past 2000 years, which commentators agree with the differentiation.
"

jtb_hypocrite wrote, "<quoted text>
You still haven't been able to give me the names of prominent preachers over the past 2000 years who have the same views on homosexuality as you do.
"
But the question remains. Who else believes and teaches that tripe? A famous preacher, religious scholar, biblical commentator, etc believes that rot gut.
Really

Chambersburg, PA

#41 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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Lololll. Dan the man child. I was wondering how long it would take you false prophet types to know it was me.
Its almost sad to realize you have had nothing better to do over the past 2-3-4 years than spread your ungodly false teaching to the unsuspecting.
Brother, I for one have missed your whacky post, I got a laugh out of each one. Your self righteous condemnation is both classic and classless and that's not an easy row to hoe.

Now which of these wingnuts is your old com-padre "Lil John"

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#42 Mar 3, 2013
buckle up wrote:
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Lololll. Dan the man child. I was wondering how long it would take you false prophet types to know it was me.
Its almost sad to realize you have had nothing better to do over the past 2-3-4 years than spread your ungodly false teaching to the unsuspecting.
LOL! You can change your name, but you can't hide the un-Christian hate.

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