Passage of Marriage Bill in Rhode Island Hinges on Religious Exemptions

Jan 26, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

The fate of gay marriage legislation in Rhode Island could hinge on the exemptions it affords religious groups that oppose it, the State Senate president said Friday, a day after the House overwhelmingly passed the bill.

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Cal In AZ wrote:
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They have ruled on the full faith and credit clause before, most recently in the General Motors case, I believe.
And Chief Justice Roberts has proven that he can rule any way he wishes regardless of precedent or what the U.S. Constitution actually says.
Which had nothing to do with marriage laws, as you've been told every time you bring up this stupid argument.

While the SCOTUS can rule any way they want, there is the POSSIBLE and the PROBABLE.

Not state has EVER been forced to recognize ANY marriage they didn't want to based on the FFC clause.

Any victory from SCOTUS will probably come from a due process equal protection claim.

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We are much closer to 17 states practicing marriage equality than most imagine. We already have nine. Plus there are already eight more states with strong civil unions or domestic partnerships, most of which are on the verge of taking the final step (RI, IL, NJ, DE, CA, HI, OR). Only Oregon requires a popular vote to overturn an amendment. California could overturn its amendment in court this summer, or at the ballot at the next Presidential election.
Plus MN, NM, & even WY are working on marriage equality, with civil unions likely in CO his year as well.

We could easily have 15 states by 2015, and 20 states by 2020.

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I agree, but we can fight that one AFTER we get Marriage Equality on the books in the State.
We need a very solid 1/3 of the States before we can begin to relax a bit. Hit people too hard in their superstition comfort zone and the backlash could be fierce indeed, not only locking up States we've yet to win, but fill States we've got with piranha legislation.
Yeah, I think you are right, you have to be practical before you can be idealistic.

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I totally agree with you and I think any religious organization that wants to have a say in civil matters should lose their tax exempt status.
I think religious organizations shouldn't get any special tax exempt status just because they are religious. If they are performing charity work, they should get the same tax considerations non-religious charity organizations get.
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I think religious organizations shouldn't get any special tax exempt status just because they are religious. If they are performing charity work, they should get the same tax considerations non-religious charity organizations get.
But then who cares what you think bro.
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I think religious organizations shouldn't get any special tax exempt status just because they are religious. If they are performing charity work, they should get the same tax considerations non-religious charity organizations get.
All faiths in general are committed to the moral soundness and natural procreation of humans.
Liberals are subversive, regressive, and decacdent.
Shalom.

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17 states is gonna take awhile. I think a critical mass will be reached long before then where SCOTUS will rule that all states must legally recognize the marriages of all other states, str8 or gay, as per the full faith and credit clause.
I think it will be like an explosion because most of the people against gay marriage will just give up. They will see there aren't any plagues of locusts, people continue to reproduce, and nobody is recruited into homosexuality, so they will figure that even though they don't like the idea of gay marriage, it's just not a battle worth fighting. And it's a battle they are going to lose anyway.

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You have been reported.
Twice.

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I think religious organizations shouldn't get any special tax exempt status just because they are religious. If they are performing charity work, they should get the same tax considerations non-religious charity organizations get.
I agree.

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All faiths in general are committed to the moral soundness and natural procreation of humans.
Liberals are subversive, regressive, and decacdent.
Shalom.
Moral soundness? Like lynchings, murdering doctors, and flying planes into buildings? That kind of moral soundness?
You think liberals are against the natural procreation of humans? Subversive? Regressive? How? Come on, give us real examples, not just your con dumb catch phrases. You say "decadent" like it's a bad thing...

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But then who cares what you think bro.
You do.
That's why you follow me from forum to forum like a love sick puppy dog, doing the electronic equivalent of pulling on my pigtails.

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You do.
That's why you follow me from forum to forum like a love sick puppy dog, doing the electronic equivalent of pulling on my pigtails.
One way to tell you are doing something right as a poster is when the pet trolls start following you. It's always funny when they allow someone they pretend to hate to completely own them.

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All faiths in general are committed to the moral soundness and natural procreation of humans.
Liberals are subversive, regressive, and decacdent.
Shalom.
Don't most religious groups in America allow medical intervention with regard to infertility?

And aren't the majority of "liberals" also people of faith?

You seem to be behind the times. And you grip on reality is a bit loose.

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One way to tell you are doing something right as a poster is when the pet trolls start following you. It's always funny when they allow someone they pretend to hate to completely own them.
LOL. Don't you know it.
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Moral soundness? Like lynchings, murdering doctors, and flying planes into buildings? That kind of moral soundness?
You think liberals are against the natural procreation of humans? Subversive? Regressive? How? Come on, give us real examples, not just your con dumb catch phrases. You say "decadent" like it's a bad thing...
Are you referring to the near 60m abortions in this country?
Are you referring to the porn and its subversive decadent stereotypes of women?
Are you referring to Ashkezars and their faith and cost because of Isrality?
So many words regressive liberals have trouble learning or preaching. Its easier to tax people to pay for irresponsibilities.

By a dictionary rose.
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P.S. Then a retarded liberal wonders why there are so many more nutjobs in this nation since the hippy movement.

Blame the gun?
How about blaming an irresponsible, subversive, and decadent society polarized through technology with sex, violence, alcohol, drugs, and disrespectful conduct towards elders.

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P.S. Then a retarded liberal wonders why there are so many more nutjobs in this nation since the hippy movement.
Blame the gun?
How about blaming an irresponsible, subversive, and decadent society polarized through technology with sex, violence, alcohol, drugs, and disrespectful conduct towards elders.
which conservative figure expresses those views? Newt? Plain? Oreilly? Limbaugh?

Blaming liberals is simply typical conservative cowardice
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<quoted text>which conservative figure expresses those views? Newt? Plain? Oreilly? Limbaugh?
Blaming liberals is simply typical conservative cowardice
Ah yes, the little child argument. Well he did it first.
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Don't most religious groups in America allow medical intervention with regard to infertility?
And aren't the majority of "liberals" also people of faith?
You seem to be behind the times. And you grip on reality is a bit loose.
Yes, liberals place faith in irresponsible behavior and rely on others to pay for it.
Eliminate the tax code and that will start us in the right direction.

Get a grip!

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The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
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Are you referring to the near 60m abortions in this country?
Are you referring to the porn and its subversive decadent stereotypes of women?
Are you referring to Ashkezars and their faith and cost because of Isrality?
No, I was looking for examples of liberals being against the natural procreation of humans, or subversive, or regressive.
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So many words regressive liberals have trouble learning or preaching. Its easier to tax people to pay for irresponsibilities.
By a dictionary rose.
That's funny coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between "by" and "buy".

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