Is support for gay marriage over-sold?

Is support for gay marriage over-sold?

There are 303 comments on the The Washington Post story from Mar 25, 2013, titled Is support for gay marriage over-sold?. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll last week showed support for gay marriage hitting an all-time high at 58 percent, with support having risen by 21 points over the last decade alone.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#307 Apr 2, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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PROVE THAT CONNECTION,YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE!
But Obama can give Brazil $2 billion to an oil company that made $15 billion in profit the year before that drills 3 time deeper then BP!??
Ummm...we opened up vast tracts of deep water drilling without any look at the safety protocols....
yeah,t he connection is clear.

again, the stupified ummmmm that can only come from reading such uninformed dreck....it amazes me that US 'citizens', and i use that term so light ly for you as you are not informed enough about your own country for that title, can continually spout such ignorance.
the Obam admoinistration DID NOT give Brazil any money for drilling. none.

it was the Export-Import Bank of the US that LOANED Brazil the money. look up the EX-IM bank so you can learn something. they are not tax funded. they help business that deal with foreign companies get their product into oversees markets. so that money they lent Brazil was used to by US drilling products! then Brazil pays it back!!!

you really need to go back and look at the info you have parroted from the same source that gave you this lie. most of that info is probably equally incorrect.

“MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN!!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#308 Apr 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Ummm...we opened up vast tracts of deep water drilling without any look at the safety protocols....
yeah,t he connection is clear.
again, the stupified ummmmm that can only come from reading such uninformed dreck....it amazes me that US 'citizens', and i use that term so light ly for you as you are not informed enough about your own country for that title, can continually spout such ignorance.
the Obam admoinistration DID NOT give Brazil any money for drilling. none.
it was the Export-Import Bank of the US that LOANED Brazil the money. look up the EX-IM bank so you can learn something. they are not tax funded. they help business that deal with foreign companies get their product into oversees markets. so that money they lent Brazil was used to by US drilling products! then Brazil pays it back!!!
you really need to go back and look at the info you have parroted from the same source that gave you this lie. most of that info is probably equally incorrect.
"The Bank is chartered as a government corporation by the Congress of the United States."
One of thoses "too big to fail" if sh*t goes south stories again!!

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

The offer was there. At the time Obama was shutting down our oil drilling he was willingly to give money to Brazil. What country is he the president of?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#309 Apr 2, 2013
Quest wrote:
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... Other folks understand that animals can't legally consent...
And smarter folks know we don't need their consent to kill and eat them, why should we need it to marry them?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#311 Apr 2, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Huh?
Your most intelligent response in a long time.

Too Funny!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#312 Apr 2, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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"The Bank is chartered as a government corporation by the Congress of the United States."
One of thoses "too big to fail" if sh*t goes south stories again!!
The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.
The offer was there. At the time Obama was shutting down our oil drilling he was willingly to give money to Brazil. What country is he the president of?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...
The ex-im bank is not funded by tax dollars. the US government did not loan them money, it was loaned to them by a US corporation funded by private dollars. the loan allows them to buy US products for the drilling. again, look into what the ex-im is and you may actually learn something.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#313 Apr 2, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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"The Bank is chartered as a government corporation by the Congress of the United States."
One of thoses "too big to fail" if sh*t goes south stories again!!
The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.
The offer was there. At the time Obama was shutting down our oil drilling he was willingly to give money to Brazil. What country is he the president of?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...
Obama exports pollution and then claims he's green. Many nations environmental regulations are lax. So actually he is worsening pollution.

But he doesn't care because he appears to be very environmentally concerned by banning U.S. drilling.

Win/Win for Obama! Lose/Lose for the world and the US economy.

“MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN!!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#314 Apr 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>The ex-im bank is not funded by tax dollars. the US government did not loan them money, it was loaned to them by a US corporation funded by private dollars. the loan allows them to buy US products for the drilling. again, look into what the ex-im is and you may actually learn something.
Petrobra made $15 billion in profits while Obama offered them $2 billion to "be there best customer" while he was shutting down drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and killing the Keystone Pipeline! That doesn't make sense!

Still NO ONE has made the connection between the oil rig fire/spill with the last Admin, wishful thinking, maybe but no proof ! Unlike the proof for Fast and Furious, Solyndra,no budget for over 4 years, wanting to punish the case officiers that got the info to find UBL,saving the auto union not the industry, illegal war in Libya, gun running in Syria via Turkey/Libya, leaving an ambassador flapping it the wind, forcing churces to violate their doctrine, Obama Care costing more then sold to the public, wanting bankruupt the caol industry, tax and spend the wealth around, man I can keep going!!!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#315 Apr 3, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Petrobra made $15 billion in profits while Obama offered them $2 billion to "be there best customer" while he was shutting down drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and killing the Keystone Pipeline! That doesn't make sense!
Still NO ONE has made the connection between the oil rig fire/spill with the last Admin, wishful thinking, maybe but no proof ! Unlike the proof for Fast and Furious, Solyndra,no budget for over 4 years, wanting to punish the case officiers that got the info to find UBL,saving the auto union not the industry, illegal war in Libya, gun running in Syria via Turkey/Libya, leaving an ambassador flapping it the wind, forcing churces to violate their doctrine, Obama Care costing more then sold to the public, wanting bankruupt the caol industry, tax and spend the wealth around, man I can keep going!!!
no, Obama didn't do that, the exIm bank did that, so they would buy US products. then they pay the money back as it was a loan from a privately funded bank...

get a clue.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#316 Apr 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Why would you think i am angry? just because you are?
no i am just pointing out that you are just projecting your prejudices and bigotry on this case without any real facts to back them up....
Why would I be angry...I know the truth...it is 'you all' that want to claim victory and are trying to convince everyone else of it too...I'm not angry at all....no worries.

Why are you???

“MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN!!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#317 Apr 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, Obama didn't do that, the exIm bank did that, so they would buy US products. then they pay the money back as it was a loan from a privately funded bank...
get a clue.
Petrobra didn't need the money. We have our own resources here but this Admin isn't fossil fuel friendly or at least not American fossil fuel friendly, we need the cheap energy, jobs and revenue, but all we b*tch about is gay marriage,gun control and immigration REALLY!!
GET A CLUE!!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#318 Apr 3, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Petrobra didn't need the money. We have our own resources here but this Admin isn't fossil fuel friendly or at least not American fossil fuel friendly, we need the cheap energy, jobs and revenue, but all we b*tch about is gay marriage,gun control and immigration REALLY!!
GET A CLUE!!
Well, they weren't buying those US products without the loan from the privately funded bank. so who cares? who wins here? the people selling the US products...the people who fund the ExIm bank and get their loan back with interst. the world oil supply.

win win win..

youa re just not man enough to admit you didn't know what the hell you were talking about and had just parroted words you didn't understand. i called you on it and you looked like a fool. just admit it, this is what happens when you post stuff you don't really know. it could be agood lesson to you.

having the balls to admit you were wrong would also be a lesson for you...i won't hold my breath....

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#319 Apr 3, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Why would I be angry...I know the truth...it is 'you all' that want to claim victory and are trying to convince everyone else of it too...I'm not angry at all....no worries.
Why are you???
as I said, not angry at all, nothing I've posterd would imply that i am angry. why did you infer it?

the gig is up and the good side HAS won. SSM will be the law of the land in our lifetimes...

“MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN!!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#320 Apr 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, they weren't buying those US products without the loan from the privately funded bank. so who cares? who wins here? the people selling the US products...the people who fund the ExIm bank and get their loan back with interst. the world oil supply.
win win win..
youa re just not man enough to admit you didn't know what the hell you were talking about and had just parroted words you didn't understand. i called you on it and you looked like a fool. just admit it, this is what happens when you post stuff you don't really know. it could be agood lesson to you.
having the balls to admit you were wrong would also be a lesson for you...i won't hold my breath....
You should have the balls to admit this president isn't working! He has done NOTHING to help this country recover from our problems. Now we are 5 years into this mess with no end in sight! Instead of the economy, he worries about health care that we are now finding out is costing more then he said AND it was never a cost cutting plan at the start. Instead of the economy, he worries about gay marraige and gun control. WHERE ARE THE F*CKING JOBS MR.PRESIDENT??!! How does these issues create jobs. The only people making money in gay marriage is the courts that issue the licence and the divorce lawyers when the sh*t goes south. Loaning people money to buy our products, that makes sense, sounds too much like Freddie and Fanny Mae! Loaning people money that don't need or want it. That makes sense too!

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#321 Apr 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>as I said, not angry at all, nothing I've posterd would imply that i am angry. why did you infer it?
the gig is up and the good side HAS won. SSM will be the law of the land in our lifetimes...
Actually, I wasn't posting to you about the anger thing..you just threw yourself into that...the person I actually posted to, hasn't responded...you know why??? Because they are angry...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#322 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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If what you say is true...why are you so angry???
it would seem you are caught out in another of your many lies...

again...

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#323 Apr 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it would seem you are caught out in another of your many lies...
again...
Since you have no concept of the truth...you would not be the one to certify a lie...you are a joke to me....just plain funny...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#324 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Since you have no concept of the truth...you would not be the one to certify a lie...you are a joke to me....just plain funny...
ummm...the proof is right there in front of your eyes!

the cult mentality...able to deny facts in front of you...

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#325 Apr 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>ummm...the proof is right there in front of your eyes!
the cult mentality...able to deny facts in front of you...
If anyone is a liar it is you....trying to pass of a few insignificant biased studies as truth...we are not fooled...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#326 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
If anyone is a liar it is you....trying to pass of a few insignificant biased studies as truth...we are not fooled...
yeah, proof of the lie you made in front of your face and you call others liars...classic!

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#327 Apr 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, proof of the lie you made in front of your face and you call others liars...classic!
Speaking of your lies....

Same-sex parenting and children’s outcomes: A closer examination of the American psychological association’s brief on lesbian and gay parenting
Loren Marks,
Louisiana State University, 341 School of Human Ecology, Baton Rouge, LA 70803, United States
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2012.0... , How to Cite or Link Using DOI

Abstract

In 2005, the American Psychological Association (APA) issued an official brief on lesbian and gay parenting. This brief included the assertion:“Not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents”(p. 15). The present article closely examines this assertion and the 59 published studies cited by the APA to support it. Seven central questions address:
(1) homogeneous sampling,
(2) absence of comparison groups,
(3) comparison group characteristics,
(4) contradictory data,
(5) the limited scope of children’s outcomes studied,
(6) paucity of long-term outcome data, and
(7) lack of APA-urged statistical power. The conclusion is that strong assertions, including those made by the APA, were not empirically warranted. Recommendations for future research are offered.

Highlights

&#9658; A 26 of 59 APA studies on same-sex parenting had no heterosexual comparison groups.
&#9658; In comparison studies, single mothers were often used as the hetero comparison group.
&#9658; No comparison study had the statistical power required to detect a small effect size.
&#9658; Definitive claims were not substantiated by the 59 published studies.

This is what is known as caving to political pressure when the science doesn't support your statements...

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