Virginia's same-sex marriage ban is unconstitutional, rules federal judge

Feb 13, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Christian Science Monitor

This courtroom sketch shows US District Judge Arenda L. Wright Allen presiding over a hearing on Virginia's ban on gay marriage in Norfolk, Va., Feb. 4. Attorneys for the plaintiffs, David Boies, third from left, and Ted Olson, standing left, presented the case.

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Almanac Gore

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Christain Scienteeth breakfast monitor & tv!!! ;-0h, need some tofu?
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Might be "unconstitutional" but it's RIGHT!

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Liberals R Defective wrote:
Once again, the unelected black robed tyrants trample on the rights of the people. When will we say "enough is enough?"
When same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states?

4 straight victories in federal courts!!!

It's a race to the SCOTUS.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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When same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states?
4 straight victories in federal courts!!!
It's a race to the SCOTUS.
The tide has obviously change din our favor. It's just a matter of when SCOTUS will decide to accept a case like this. My guess is no later than 2016.

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Fa-Foxy wrote:
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The tide has obviously change din our favor. It's just a matter of when SCOTUS will decide to accept a case like this. My guess is no later than 2016.
I tend to agree.

This is moving faster than expected, but it will still take about another year to get enough cases through the appeals courts- 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, & 10th.

Look for cert being granted next year for the '15/'16 SCOTUS term with a final ruling by Jun '16.

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Might be "unconstitutional" but it's RIGHT!
You're confused again, unconstitutional, by definition, wrong. You're welcome.

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It's 5 victories now, Utah, Oklahoma, Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia and our only loss has been forfeited back to us by Nevada. This will be done by no later than June of next year, this a tsunami and it's moving fast, the only question left is whether it will be a wimped out right of marriage recognition, ala Oklahoma, Ohio and Kentucky, or full on equality, courtesy Utah and Virginia.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
It's 5 victories now, Utah, Oklahoma, Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia and our only loss has been forfeited back to us by Nevada. This will be done by no later than June of next year, this a tsunami and it's moving fast, the only question left is whether it will be a wimped out right of marriage recognition, ala Oklahoma, Ohio and Kentucky, or full on equality, courtesy Utah and Virginia.
Actually the Oklahoma case should be lumped with the Utah & Virginia cases, as it involved the right to marry.

But you have a point that the SCOTUS has a way to make the intermediate step- thanks to the Kentucky & Ohio cases- that states must recognize all legal marriages performed in other states.

That could be the case the SCOTUS takes in the '14/'15 term, while putting off the remainder until the '15/'16 term or later.

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It's 5 victories now, Utah, Oklahoma, Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia and our only loss has been forfeited back to us by Nevada. This will be done by no later than June of next year, this a tsunami and it's moving fast, the only question left is whether it will be a wimped out right of marriage recognition, ala Oklahoma, Ohio and Kentucky, or full on equality, courtesy Utah and Virginia.
The trouble is, if we win in all 50 sates, what are we going to post about on topix for the rest of our lives.:(

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Just a reminder to all- the SCOTUS doesn't have to accept any case, but it ALSO can just hold cases indefinitely and keep a stay in place until they're ready to hear them.

So we would be looking at a stay preventing all these rulings from taking effect for a couple of years.

It all depends on how fast the SCOTUS wants to move.

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Fa-Foxy wrote:
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The trouble is, if we win in all 50 sates, what are we going to post about on topix for the rest of our lives.:(
You can get a preview of that with the proposed legislation in TN & KS allowing businesses & individuals to discriminate against married same-sex couples.

Plus ENDA and other public accommodation laws.

Unfortunately the anti-gays will NEVER give up, but at some point they won't even be able to get majorities to pass these clearly unconstitutional laws in any state.

But that will likely keep us busy for the next decade at least.
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Fa-Foxy wrote:
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The trouble is, if we win in all 50 sates, what are we going to post about on topix for the rest of our lives.:(
Statehood for Mexico

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You can get a preview of that with the proposed legislation in TN & KS allowing businesses & individuals to discriminate against married same-sex couples.
Plus ENDA and other public accommodation laws.
Unfortunately the anti-gays will NEVER give up, but at some point they won't even be able to get majorities to pass these clearly unconstitutional laws in any state.
But that will likely keep us busy for the next decade at least.
OMG ! If I had known that being gay was so much work, I wouldn't have bothered joining the team. This is more work then being on those church committees I'm on !:(
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OMG ! If I had known that being gay was so much work, I wouldn't have bothered joining the team. This is more work then being on those church committees I'm on !:(
Well; sugar
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The difference in being gay and being on a church committee is:
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Being gay is for real
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So get your priorities gay before you suffer from committee burnout

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Its about time Boehner abandoned Congress and started making deals with Senate Majority Leader read-

Boehner is coming back to reality, he finally reigning in his party...guess he's tired of all the National losses

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Senator Reid *typo*

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FDR/Truman and John Maynard Keynes

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I still think the Supremes are going to deal with this question the first chance they get, the pendulum has swung far enough in our favor that doing what they are going to have to do here is pretty much expected at this point. I wouldn't even be surprised if they took Loving Jr here on a direct appeal (they owe it to Olsen and Boies after they punted on Perry). Why wait another couple of years when they can rip that scab off now and more or less get away with it? The opposition knows it's over, put them out of their misery already. Summer 2015, at the very latest and I wouldn't bet against it happening earlier.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
I still think the Supremes are going to deal with this question the first chance they get, the pendulum has swung far enough in our favor that doing what they are going to have to do here is pretty much expected at this point. I wouldn't even be surprised if they took Loving Jr here on a direct appeal (they owe it to Olsen and Boies after they punted on Perry). Why wait another couple of years when they can rip that scab off now and more or less get away with it? The opposition knows it's over, put them out of their misery already. Summer 2015, at the very latest and I wouldn't bet against it happening earlier.
'16 I think. But the tide has turned in our favor.

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Liberals R Defective wrote:
Oh goody, get your extra large jar of ass lube at the ready. You sodomites will be partying like it's the end of civilization, eh?
Is there any particular reason that you thought that I needed to hear your homoerotic fantasy? I was talking about how soon the Supreme Court will be addressing the issue of our right to marry and the ONLY thought to pop into your little head was ass lube. Congratulations.

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