Let Transgender People Vote

Let Transgender People Vote

There are 45 comments on the The Daily Beast story from Nov 2, 2012, titled Let Transgender People Vote. In it, The Daily Beast reports that:

After coming out as a transgender woman, Claire Swinford recalled her first time back at the polls as an "incredibly uncomfortable, very, very embarrassing" experience.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#1 Nov 2, 2012
The USA, falling behind faster than a lead sinker.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#2 Nov 2, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
The USA, falling behind faster than a lead sinker.
Than move and get out and take your unhappy whiney lib friends with you.

Everyone who is a citizen should be allowed to vote but if your drivers license staes Mr Maddow than do not go dressed in costume to vote as Miss Maddow because voting day is not on Halloween and the people who work there and do their best and need to see the picture matches the person.

Heek why not vote in a Burka .

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#3 Nov 2, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
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Than move and get out and take your unhappy whiney lib friends with you.
Everyone who is a citizen should be allowed to vote but if your drivers license staes Mr Maddow than do not go dressed in costume to vote as Miss Maddow because voting day is not on Halloween and the people who work there and do their best and need to see the picture matches the person.
Heek why not vote in a Burka .
I'm sorry, does it frighten you when the sun hides behind the moon too?

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#4 Nov 2, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I'm sorry, does it frighten you when the sun hides behind the moon too?
The sun does not pretend to be the moon and the moon does not pretend to be the sun.

I wanted to go vote in a big bird costume which does not allow the voting poll workers to identify me but I was told that they had to match my face with the picture on my drivers license.

I feel violated like it was a racist hate crime muah muah muah.

That is how you dems think .

You want to play "dress up" than great but when officials need to match your pic with your actual face than it is time to join reality.

Since: Oct 12

Melrose, NY

#5 Nov 2, 2012
I do not understand How being asked to show you ARE the person that is registered to vote is in ANY way discriminatory

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#6 Nov 2, 2012
MaxDred50 wrote:
I do not understand How being asked to show you ARE the person that is registered to vote is in ANY way discriminatory
I agree completely and kitten is just being lib for the sake of being lib because she damn well knows that if I go vote and my ID has my picture than my face has to match that pic, give or take changed hair color and style and a few gained pounds lol.

Problem with these leftist is that they go against the common sense grain for the sake of it .
ReaganS

Hiram, GA

#7 Nov 2, 2012
Seriously y'all. I can't expect cisgender people to understand the struggles of trans people, but let me try and help. First of all being trans IS a medical condition. Second when a person is transitioning to another gender sometimes they have been on hormones for a period of time where their features have been altered enough to make them look like the gender they are presenting. Their actually comes a time where this happens. In most states to change your gender marker on your ID you have to have a surgical procedure to alter your genitals. A policy made by cisgender people. Sometime trans people have to save for years in order to have this done, because this is not covered by most insurance policy's. Or sometimes it's to much of a health risk or maybe they just don't feel like going through all of it. Or in many cases they have to live as the other gender for a period of time before being allowed to have the surgery. Again rules made by cisgender people. So this means that their gender marker on their ID doesn't match how they look. This is where discrimination occurs.
I hope this helped you understand a little more.

Since: Oct 12

Melrose, NY

#8 Nov 2, 2012
ReaganS wrote:
Seriously y'all. I can't expect cisgender people to understand the struggles of trans people, but let me try and help. First of all being trans IS a medical condition. Second when a person is transitioning to another gender sometimes they have been on hormones for a period of time where their features have been altered enough to make them look like the gender they are presenting. Their actually comes a time where this happens. In most states to change your gender marker on your ID you have to have a surgical procedure to alter your genitals. A policy made by cisgender people. Sometime trans people have to save for years in order to have this done, because this is not covered by most insurance policy's. Or sometimes it's to much of a health risk or maybe they just don't feel like going through all of it. Or in many cases they have to live as the other gender for a period of time before being allowed to have the surgery. Again rules made by cisgender people. So this means that their gender marker on their ID doesn't match how they look. This is where discrimination occurs.
I hope this helped you understand a little more.
"trans gender” is a Mental issue not a medical issue. You are either Male or Female. A medical procedure that alters your sex organs does not change your sex, changing your outward appearance does not change what you are.

Since: Oct 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Nov 2, 2012
When my fiancee began living full time as a female, she went down to the local New York State DMV office and had her Driver's License changed to female, changed her name on it, and a new photo taken. She had no trouble changing her Driver's License, they didn't ask her for any proof, and she was eminently passable as female.

It's very easy to change your offical state-issued ID, and I've done so within the past year with no problem.

In fact, I have 3 state-issued offical ID's all with different names on them, and have opened multiple bank accounts with them with at the same bank with the same bank representative, and have had no problems.

It's not illegal to use multiple aliases unless you are trying to defraud somebody.

(Of course in my small international "import-export business" it's safer not to use your real name because of the type of people I deal with.)
ReaganS

Hiram, GA

#10 Nov 2, 2012
MaxDred50 wrote:
<quoted text> "trans gender” is a Mental issue not a medical issue. You are either Male or Female. A medical procedure that alters your sex organs does not change your sex, changing your outward appearance does not change what you are.
It's dose change your sex that you are. It's your gender that never changes. Transgender people are just aligning their bodies with their mind and soul. It's not a mental issue and according to the medical and scientific communities it is a medical issue. Sorry that you are confused.
ReaganS

Hiram, GA

#11 Nov 2, 2012
Cal In AZ wrote:
When my fiancee began living full time as a female, she went down to the local New York State DMV office and had her Driver's License changed to female, changed her name on it, and a new photo taken. She had no trouble changing her Driver's License, they didn't ask her for any proof, and she was eminently passable as female.
It's very easy to change your offical state-issued ID, and I've done so within the past year with no problem.
In fact, I have 3 state-issued offical ID's all with different names on them, and have opened multiple bank accounts with them with at the same bank with the same bank representative, and have had no problems.
It's not illegal to use multiple aliases unless you are trying to defraud somebody.
(Of course in my small international "import-export business" it's safer not to use your real name because of the type of people I deal with.)
Like I said MOST states require SRS! Usually once you live in a state that doesn't require you to have SRS and you get your ID changed its very easy to move to a state that requires SRS and get on without SRS. They usually just go by the ID you are changing. For most people living in MOST states that require SRS it's very difficult for them.
GayleJane

UK

#12 Nov 2, 2012
ReaganS wrote:
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Like I said MOST states require SRS! Usually once you live in a state that doesn't require you to have SRS and you get your ID changed its very easy to move to a state that requires SRS and get on without SRS. They usually just go by the ID you are changing. For most people living in MOST states that require SRS it's very difficult for them.
Thank God I live in a more tolerant n understanding sphere of the small planet called Earth....
Sex is what's between the legs, Gender what's between the ears...whence they don't match align one with the other..
The right to vote should be the right to vote....full stop...regardless of colour of skin, class, creed, religion or gender...
A nation that promotes itself as "the land of the free" does appear somewhat narrowed in its precepts judging from some of the quotes....

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#13 Nov 2, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
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The sun does not pretend to be the moon and the moon does not pretend to be the sun.
I wanted to go vote in a big bird costume which does not allow the voting poll workers to identify me but I was told that they had to match my face with the picture on my drivers license.
I feel violated like it was a racist hate crime muah muah muah.
That is how you dems think .
You want to play "dress up" than great but when officials need to match your pic with your actual face than it is time to join reality.
If you knew anything about human history you'd hang your head in shame for submitting that post.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#14 Nov 2, 2012
MaxDred50 wrote:
<quoted text> "trans gender” is a Mental issue not a medical issue. You are either Male or Female. A medical procedure that alters your sex organs does not change your sex, changing your outward appearance does not change what you are.
In regards to society, yes it does.

Since: Oct 12

Coolidge, AZ

#15 Nov 2, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
The sun does not pretend to be the moon and the moon does not pretend to be the sun.
I wanted to go vote in a big bird costume which does not allow the voting poll workers to identify me but I was told that they had to match my face with the picture on my drivers license.
I feel violated like it was a racist hate crime muah muah muah.
That is how you dems think .
You want to play "dress up" than great but when officials need to match your pic with your actual face than it is time to join reality.
Shoulda did what I did. Vote by mail-in ballot (in 31 states !:)).
Bucky Cheesehead

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Nov 2, 2012
MaxDred50 wrote:
I do not understand How being asked to show you ARE the person that is registered to vote is in ANY way discriminatory
In the years to come we will eventually see a
"transgender" claim "discrimination" and isms against their Civil Rights against one or more of its other genders for not being allowed to vote at least twice.
Expect the ACLU to be involved with prodding the Dept. of Justice and other bureaucracies into line.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#17 Nov 2, 2012
Bucky Cheesehead wrote:
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In the years to come we will eventually see a
"transgender" claim "discrimination" and isms against their Civil Rights against one or more of its other genders for not being allowed to vote at least twice.
Expect the ACLU to be involved with prodding the Dept. of Justice and other bureaucracies into line.
You hate people, we know this already.
Bucky Cheesehead

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Nov 2, 2012
MaxDred50 wrote:
<quoted text> "trans gender” is a Mental issue not a medical issue. You are either Male or Female. A medical procedure that alters your sex organs does not change your sex, changing your outward appearance does not change what you are.
People in the homosexualist belief-system reject the scientific facts regarding DNA which identifies them biologically.
The belief-systen cannot defeat reality, at least not for the long haul.
What's really sad is a whole industry of grifters across whole institutions has sprung up reaping profits off these unfortunate people.
Bucky Cheesehead

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Nov 2, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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You hate people, we know this already.
People who really H8 sad mentally-confused people (hereafter referred to as "trannys") take money for chopping off/re-arranging tranny-junk.
A whole industry largely funded by government has sprung up around trannys and their branch of the queer belief-system.
Bucky Cheesehead

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Nov 2, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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In regards to society, yes it does.
You're saying society is supposed to recognize and respect and accommodate your stereotypes and conceptions about the other sex and about how different life could have been for you if not for reality?
Your belief-system notwithstanding, you're just not all that special.

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