Discrimination or religious freedom? Mississippi lawmakers feel pressure over much-debated bill

Mar 8, 2014 Full story: The Mississippi Press 40

Lawmakers in conservative Mississippi find themselves in a tug-of-war over a religious-practices bill that some say is uncomfortably similar to one recently vetoed by Arizona's Republican governor.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#22 Mar 8, 2014
NE Jade wrote:
And my stalker troll continues to creep. I am his/her everything. It makes my skin crawl. His/her changing of name/location makes it all that more obsessively freakish.
Hey! How many stalker trolls do you have? Huh? I thought Frankie was your stalker troll dammit!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#23 Mar 8, 2014
NE JAID wrote:
Jaid wrote:
So don't put him up there on some great debating pedestal.
> like your opinion matters LOL
btw very gay name
LMAO! Ah good times!

Since: Jul 09

Indy/Philly/Toronto

#24 Mar 8, 2014
Why do "religious" people:
1. Feel they are better than everyone else?
2. Want to tell others how to live their lives?
3. Feel threatened by people they will NEVER know or even meet?
4. Not live by their own rules?
5. Judge others without ever judging themselves?
6. Want 'special' rights only for them?
7. Lack basic common sense?

Just wondering.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#25 Mar 8, 2014
mark in Toronto wrote:
Why do "religious" people:
1. Feel they are better than everyone else?
2. Want to tell others how to live their lives?
3. Feel threatened by people they will NEVER know or even meet?
4. Not live by their own rules?
5. Judge others without ever judging themselves?
6. Want 'special' rights only for them?
7. Lack basic common sense?
Just wondering.
Not to mention, Mississippi doesn't have too good a track record on human rights to begin with, the xtians down there might be especially hypocritical. I think the heat makes them cranky.
Robin Hood

Alpharetta, GA

#26 Mar 9, 2014
DebraE wrote:
<quoted text>
Not to mention, Mississippi doesn't have too good a track record on human rights to begin with, the xtians down there might be especially hypocritical. I think the heat makes them cranky.
Mississippi's problem is uneducated political; religious; and educational leaders dragging everybody down
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#27 Mar 9, 2014
NE Jade wrote:
And my stalker troll continues to creep. I am his everything. It makes my skin crawl.
When he posts, "It puts the lotion on its skin....," then it will be time for you to go post only at huffington.

Or perhaps you should post that to your stalker preemptively?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#28 Mar 9, 2014
Gremlin wrote:
<quoted text>Forgive me for making a human error, you BIGOTed POS. I call it like I see it.....a BIGOT is a BIGOT is a BIGOT. The truth sucks, doesn't it.?
Your bigotry shines through in each of your posts. It's clear that you are opposed to religious freedom and it's clear that you hate anyone that is opposed to allowing gays to do whatever they want to do. In fact, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion, people have a right to feel anyway they want to.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#29 Mar 9, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Your bigotry shines through in each of your posts. It's clear that you are opposed to religious freedom and it's clear that you hate anyone that is opposed to allowing gays to do whatever they want to do. In fact, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion, people have a right to feel anyway they want to.
Hey mullah, if that were true we'd be trying to block your mullah right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

We aren't.

Although that's also because we know you don't have any intimate relationships with adult females...it's (male) homosexual this and homosexual that for you 24/7.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#30 Mar 9, 2014
Robin Hood wrote:
<quoted text>
Mississippi's problem is uneducated political; religious; and educational leaders dragging everybody down
Having lived in Georgia several years, I would have to agree with you.There ARE lots of nice folk.....but they seem to be sadly outnumbered.
Fred

Goodland, KS

#31 Mar 9, 2014
Gremlin wrote:
<quoted text> The truth sucks, doesn't it.?
no,queers suck

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#32 Mar 10, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
Religious superstition is not a license to engage in criminal activity
But the religious want it to be....

I just wish they could wrap their head around the fact that being nice to other people does not compromise their religious freedom--especially if they claim to be Christian. Jesus would *NEVER* have condoned refusing to serve people in his name. Yet that's exactly what his self-declared followers want to do! In his name. Nice, huh?
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#33 Mar 11, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Your bigotry shines through in each of your posts. It's clear that you are opposed to religious freedom and it's clear that you hate anyone that is opposed to allowing gays to do whatever they want to do. In fact, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion, people have a right to feel anyway they want to.
LOL! Any person who calls gay people "f@ggots" and tries to use the bible to justify it hardly qualifies to play the victim card. There's a difference between having an opinion and vicious name calling. Gay marriage is being legalized, gays can serve openly in the military, and there are openly gay politicians....and in your homophobic mind, that makes you feel "victimized." The bottom line is you simply can't stand the thought of gays having the same rights as everyone else. So please don't try to project your bigotry onto me....it won't work.
aguyfromduckhill

Waukegan, IL

#34 Mar 11, 2014
juls wrote:
down south they say- god bless yo' baby- instead of saying- your baby sure is ugly-
sound similar to this legislation- ugly baby syndrome.
Such a smart idiot .
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#36 Mar 12, 2014
Travis wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor little whiny a:ss fagg@t. Need tissues?
Nope.....things have never been better for gays. It's breeder homophobes like YOU who have been boo hoo hooing about us gaining our civil rights. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! How does it feel to know that your point of view is becoming less and less important, you POS?

DNF

“Judge more and you love less”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH-Baltimore MD-S.Fla

#37 Mar 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Your bigotry shines through in each of your posts. It's clear that you are opposed to religious freedom and it's clear that you hate anyone that is opposed to allowing gays to do whatever they want to do. In fact, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion, people have a right to feel anyway they want to.
As you said, "people have a right to feel anyway they want to." Yet you don't seem to want others to have that freedom.

Your "traditional family values" group has tried to rebrand themselves with the new catchphrase, "people who hold deeply held religious beliefs".

It's like watching Wile E. Coyote jump for joy and anticipation over his latest delivery from ACME Labs.

Yet the end of the movie is always the same.

DNF

“Judge more and you love less”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH-Baltimore MD-S.Fla

#38 Mar 12, 2014
Travis wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor little whiny a:ss fagg@t. Need tissues?
No need for a tissue on our part. We have something better:

TITLE II OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT (PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS)42 U.S.C.2000a (a)All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
42 U.S.C.2000a(b)(b) Each of the following establishments is a place of public accommodation within this title if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:(1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence.(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment, or any gasoline station;
(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and (4) any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of any such covered establishment.
42 U.S.C. 2000a(c)(c) The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this title if (1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b); (2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b), it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers or a substantial portion of the food which it serves or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce; (3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b), it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce, and (4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b), it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, "commerce" means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any state or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.

http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/hce/title2.p...

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#39 Mar 12, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
OOOPS, that should have read"
Bigots are people who refuse service to gay people while gay people who refuse service to bigots are hero's.
Walter Williams

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#40 Mar 12, 2014
NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>Alan,
From what I understand, the baker had committed to baking the cake, and then backed out. Plans had been made, a verbal contract had occurred. I'm sure the couple wanted no bigot making their cake. A legal point needed to be made. If the barber had accepted the appointment, and then backed out, that too would be different. No one wants someone cutting their hair that may not do his best. I think this whole "baking the cake" thing has been blown out of proportion. But look at it this way, had Rosa Parks just given up her seat, civil rights for blacks might have taken a while longer. I see no "special rights" demands being made by gays. I stated my opinion. Enjoy your Saturday night. Oh, and as for Frankie. Go over to the Gay Cafe thread and see the constant harassment he throws my direction, even though I have not posted on that thread for months. He drags postings of mine over there to make comments, rather than making them on the tread I post because I refuse to interact with him. So don't put him up there on some great debating pedestal.
I agree that the whole cake thing has been blown out of proportion, I posted about the governor's hair stylist because I believe she did the right thing. Why aren't the details about the gay couple and the baker available?

And Rosa Parks did the right thing refusing to get up. That is different than when the Government comes in and forces people.

If you have an hour watch this video, the facts will shock you with new information.

Walter Williams

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#41 Mar 12, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that the whole cake thing has been blown out of proportion, I posted about the governor's hair stylist because I believe she did the right thing. Why aren't the details about the gay couple and the baker available?
And Rosa Parks did the right thing refusing to get up. That is different than when the Government comes in and forces people.
If you have an hour watch this video, the facts will shock you with new information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KKgHc6bWqZ4XX Walter Williams
You're spot on with Rosa Parks, there are those who had had enough. Remember, Rosa was the reason for the bus strike and the bus strike was a precursor to the government coming in to enforce equality and protection.

Do you want to have your cake and eat it too? Someone has to stand up to bigotry and that changes governmental laws. If the bigots would just go home then the government wouldn't be needed, but no, they never do. The bigotry doesn't stop until the law forces them to stop.
aguyfromduckhill

Waukegan, IL

#42 Mar 24, 2014
Robin Hood wrote:
<quoted text>
Mississippi's problem is uneducated political; religious; and educational leaders dragging everybody down
Your writings and grammatical usage shows that they have the same problems in Ga.

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