Conservatives vow to make gay marriag...

Conservatives vow to make gay marriage 2012 issue

There are 91 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Feb 24, 2011, titled Conservatives vow to make gay marriage 2012 issue. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Angered conservatives are vowing to make same-sex marriage a front-burner election issue, nationally and in the states, following the Obama administration's announcement that it will no longer defend the federal law denying recognition to gay married couples.

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“I'm here to make friends, etc.”

Since: Sep 10

Fernandina Beach, Florida

#1 Feb 24, 2011
I find it very funny how Republicans are attacking Obama for supposedly putting all his concentration on social issues and gays instead of jobs and the economy when that is exactly what Republicans are doing in many states and in congress. Too bad there isn't an H in Republican to stand for the word hypocrite. Obama is just not going to defend DOMA. Not defending something is not a time consuming thing that would take away from Obama's efforts to improve the economy and jobs. What happened to jobs and the economy? Now Republicans are concentrating all their efforts on making gays second or third class citizens. I hope it comes to bite them in the butt in 2012. The L in Republicans stands for LIAR.

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#2 Feb 24, 2011
Hey Conservatives - GO AHEAD!

Seriously, with all the issues facing this nation THIS is what you choose to spend your energy and political capital on?!

BY ALL MEANS - waste the nations time.

What will you do if the 9th Circuit upholds Judge Walkers ruling? What will you do if the Federal District Courts in Massachusetts and in New York say DOMA is UnConstitutional?

How does this reduce Government or balance the Federal budget or reduce the Debt (and the deficit)?!

Of all the serious meaningful issues to focus on ... you waste all of our time.

Eric

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#3 Feb 24, 2011
John Crews wrote:
I find it very funny how Republicans are attacking Obama for supposedly putting all his concentration on social issues and gays instead of jobs and the economy when that is exactly what Republicans are doing in many states and in congress. Too bad there isn't an H in Republican to stand for the word hypocrite. Obama is just not going to defend DOMA. Not defending something is not a time consuming thing that would take away from Obama's efforts to improve the economy and jobs. What happened to jobs and the economy? Now Republicans are concentrating all their efforts on making gays second or third class citizens. I hope it comes to bite them in the butt in 2012. The L in Republicans stands for LIAR.
The Tea Baggers moaned about taxes, the deficit, illegal aliens and Health care. And got elected. And what happens? A Gov. in Florida tries to stop the "voice of the people" referendum over redistricting. Another Gov. sends the National Guard to the homes of elected officials, so he can attempt to reneg on contracts with State employees. In the days after a U.S. Representative is shot, a State she represents passes a law naming it's State handgun!

WTF is in that tea anyway?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#4 Feb 24, 2011
gemelk wrote:
Hey Conservatives - GO AHEAD!
Seriously, with all the issues facing this nation THIS is what you choose to spend your energy and political capital on?!
BY ALL MEANS - waste the nations time.
What will you do if the 9th Circuit upholds Judge Walkers ruling? What will you do if the Federal District Courts in Massachusetts and in New York say DOMA is UnConstitutional?
How does this reduce Government or balance the Federal budget or reduce the Debt (and the deficit)?!
Of all the serious meaningful issues to focus on ... you waste all of our time.
Eric
And how does any of this get us out of Afghanistan and Iraq? Did Arizona voters get to have a statewide referendum when choosing the State's handgun? Where were the "voice of the people" folks on that one? I once said the Ostrich would be the ideal symbol for the Tea Party movement. I'm beginning to think the sound of crickets at night might be a better one.

Since: Feb 11

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#5 Feb 24, 2011
I certainly hope these religious right wing haters do just that. I believe it may back fire on them as all polls have been showing that the majority of U.S.citizens rank same sex marriage as being a low priority for the federal government.

Further the way the numbers are increasing in favor of same sex marriage by 2012 the majority of U.S. citizens will be demanding marriage equality and calling on state and federal government to stop government sponsored discrimination.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Feb 24, 2011
So much for jobs, the deficit, and the economy.

As usual the conservative GOPasaurs fall back on old faithful- gay bashing!

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#7 Feb 24, 2011
I don't have any doubts that the conservatives will use this as a wedge issue. However, it may well not work nearly as well in 2012 as it did in the 1990's and the early part of the 2000's.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#8 Feb 24, 2011
DNF wrote:
WTF is in that tea anyway?
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sticking to coffee!
ivoryten

Reseda, CA

#9 Feb 24, 2011
If the Republicans really do put all their effort into quashing gay marriage in 2012, I think they will have seriously overreached. I honestly don't think the majority of Americans are so concerned with gay marriage that they want to forget the deficit, two wars, unemployment etc. I hope the Republicans and TeaBaggers choke on their Bibles.

“Take Topix Back From Trolls”

Since: Dec 08

Seminole, FL

#10 Feb 24, 2011
I'm certain that FrankStanton/Daniel is already working on bumper stickers for the Republi...... errrrr make that Libertericans.
hiya

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Feb 24, 2011
SAD.

“Son of Abraham”

Since: Aug 07

Natural Deviant

#12 Feb 24, 2011
I pretty sure this is what Obama is hoping they'll do.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#13 Feb 24, 2011
Conservatives got their collective panties in a bunch again, eh?

Well it's deja vu all over again. In this case, it's back to 1996 for the 2012 election. We saw where Gingrich's shutdown of the government in 1995 got the Republicans, so we'll have to see where the Right's shenanigans get them in 2012.

BTW, regarding presidents declaring laws unconstitutional, please read the following from Michael Tomasky's blog:

Lederman writes that back in 1990, the acting solicitor general of the US (the president's and executive branch's lawyer) urged President G.H.W. Bush to declare unconstitutional a provision of a big telecommunications law. The provision in question held that companies with a certain percentage of minority employees and board members would be given preferences in the awarding of broadcast licenses. These are what we call in the US minority set-asides, and conservatives have fought them for a long time.

Why was Lederman writing about it 15 years later? Because the acting SG in question was John Roberts, then up for chief justice of the US Supreme Court.

The really interesting wrinkle in this case was that Bush 41 himself had signed the law! What's more, he (a Republican president) had appointed three members to the Federal Communications Commission who supported minority set-asides (those were different times, as Lou Reed sang, eh?).

But Roberts persuaded the administration to latch on to a case that might end with the set-asides being declared unconstitutional. It did so, but Roberts lost at the Supreme Court, 5-4.

-- This definitely ought to make for some interesting exchanges when and if DOMA goes SCOTUS.

Since: Aug 08

Oakland, CA

#14 Feb 24, 2011
gemelk wrote:
Hey Conservatives - GO AHEAD!
Seriously, with all the issues facing this nation THIS is what you choose to spend your energy and political capital on?!
BY ALL MEANS - waste the nations time.
What will you do if the 9th Circuit upholds Judge Walkers ruling? What will you do if the Federal District Courts in Massachusetts and in New York say DOMA is UnConstitutional?
How does this reduce Government or balance the Federal budget or reduce the Debt (and the deficit)?!
Of all the serious meaningful issues to focus on ... you waste all of our time.
Eric
True, it is a waste of everybody's time and energy, but same sex marriage serves to energize the Republican base and is a great fundraising tool for them. So, they have to do it. I wonder how the Democrats are going to energize their base. The Democrats have a terrible time forming the argument.

“TMA&CRR One Love One Marriage ”

Since: Sep 09

port orange

#15 Feb 24, 2011
John Crews wrote:
I find it very funny how Republicans are attacking Obama for supposedly putting all his concentration on social issues and gays instead of jobs and the economy when that is exactly what Republicans are doing in many states and in congress. Too bad there isn't an H in Republican to stand for the word hypocrite. Obama is just not going to defend DOMA. Not defending something is not a time consuming thing that would take away from Obama's efforts to improve the economy and jobs. What happened to jobs and the economy? Now Republicans are concentrating all their efforts on making gays second or third class citizens. I hope it comes to bite them in the butt in 2012. The L in Republicans stands for LIAR.
haha John what would Steven say if he saw this!! "The L in Republicans stands for LIAR." lmao:P

“TMA&CRR One Love One Marriage ”

Since: Sep 09

port orange

#16 Feb 24, 2011
heres to Obama 2012 land slide victory! i say go for it GOP lol

“TMA&CRR One Love One Marriage ”

Since: Sep 09

port orange

#17 Feb 24, 2011
Xero the Cat wrote:
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True, it is a waste of everybody's time and energy, but same sex marriage serves to energize the Republican base and is a great fundraising tool for them. So, they have to do it. I wonder how the Democrats are going to energize their base. The Democrats have a terrible time forming the argument.
not so much anymore a recent poll puts marriage equality as last on the list of things that they are concerned with

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#18 Feb 24, 2011
Travis A wrote:
<quoted text>
not so much anymore a recent poll puts marriage equality as last on the list of things that they are concerned with
Even polls from a while back show that this isn't a prime issue for Republican rank and file.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/electio...

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#19 Feb 24, 2011
SFer wrote:
-- This definitely ought to make for some interesting exchanges when and if DOMA goes SCOTUS.
I can't help wondering if Clarence Thomas will break his 8 year silence during oral arguments should this or any other case regarding SSM gets to SCOTUS!
Jasmine

Newark, NJ

#20 Feb 24, 2011
Honestly I doubt obama will be a two term president. He just keeps saying controversial things that the majority don't agree with and it will hurt him in the long run. This saddens me greatly because I feel like I'm always in the middle when it comes to obama. I am for civil unions but against gay marriage and I also happen to be a democrat so I just have mixed feeling about it I feel the same as the conservatives on this issue BUT at the same time I do want to see Obama re elected because I think a republican in office would some how bring further damage to the already awful economy. People plz don't attack me this is just my opinion it's the whole point of a forum to express your view.

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