Minnesota gay rights groups turn atte...

Minnesota gay rights groups turn attention to bullying

There are 222 comments on the TwinCities story from Mar 2, 2014, titled Minnesota gay rights groups turn attention to bullying. In it, TwinCities reports that:

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Long before gay rights activists in Minnesota launched a successful campaign to legalize same-sex marriage, they were aiming for another high-profile goal: a state law protecting children from school bullies.

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ambientbake

Monticello, MN

#1 Mar 2, 2014
School districts already are aware of bullying and have plans to deal with it. We do not need more laws!! This is nothing but a power play for the ho-mows to shove their lifestyle down our throats.
crickets

Seattle, WA

#6 Mar 6, 2014
Gulp wrote:
Did you say homos want to shove it DOWN OUR THROATS?? Wow. That's a pretty intense fantasy life you have! TMI, man. The Bullies -- queer-hatin' Christians, that means you -- just can't stand watching their evil chokehold on power weaken rapidly. Bigots and theocratic monsters won't die without a fight. Bring it on. Legions of Spartans, Amazons, Witches, Warlocks, Shapeshifters and just regular folk are ready to grind you into dust. Then sweep you into the dustbin. Our children will bury you...though you hardly deserve the honor. Just don't want your corpses stinking up the place! Queerz have seen the future, and it's faa-aaa-bew-luss!
&;D
Shhh...hear that? Dead silence. I guess the bullies dlhot scared and crawled away.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#7 Mar 6, 2014
There should be no such thing as "Gay Rights". Whether you are gay or not has no bearing on your basic rights as a human being, or as a US Citizen.

The agenda put forth by the so-called Liberals is there to marginalize the rights of an individual and emphasize the rights of a class of people.

If all people identify as members of a class of people rather than as an individual, it is far easier to start a class war in order to crush various segments of society.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#8 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
There should be no such thing as "Gay Rights". Whether you are gay or not has no bearing on your basic rights as a human being, or as a US Citizen.
The agenda put forth by the so-called Liberals is there to marginalize the rights of an individual and emphasize the rights of a class of people.
If all people identify as members of a class of people rather than as an individual, it is far easier to start a class war in order to crush various segments of society.
hey Irish...long time no type!

you are right. we have the laws needed to say all US citizens are equal.. gays should have the same rights to marriage, protection again discrimination, and such things...there should be no way a gay person is treated differently in the US than anyone else.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#9 Mar 6, 2014
Hello Woodtick57. I have to say I agree wtih both of you. If we taught our children to adhere to the constitution and bill of rights, instead of gay rights, straight rights, lgbt rights, male rights, female rights, etc etc, it would be so much simpler. They are really not that complicated. Unfortunately, human nature tends to make people lean in the direction of trying to "interpret" things like, the right to remain silent, or thou shalt not kill (except), and so on. Sometimes it would seem that as a species, we are quite broken. But I like to believe we will eventually evolve beyond all of that nonsense.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#10 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
Hello Woodtick57. I have to say I agree wtih both of you. If we taught our children to adhere to the constitution and bill of rights, instead of gay rights, straight rights, lgbt rights, male rights, female rights, etc etc, it would be so much simpler. They are really not that complicated. Unfortunately, human nature tends to make people lean in the direction of trying to "interpret" things like, the right to remain silent, or thou shalt not kill (except), and so on. Sometimes it would seem that as a species, we are quite broken. But I like to believe we will eventually evolve beyond all of that nonsense.
hello! are you and Irish the only two sane people left on the twin cities forum?

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#11 Mar 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hey Irish...long time no type!
you are right. we have the laws needed to say all US citizens are equal.. gays should have the same rights to marriage, protection again discrimination, and such things...there should be no way a gay person is treated differently in the US than anyone else.
Woodtick, how the heck are ya? Hopefully your winter is going well and you are enjoying good health.

Onto the topic above ... I will never understand the obsession of both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled because of particular beliefs.

As a citizen of the US, you are guaranteed certain rights. If you are gay, you do not get more or fewer rights than if you are straight. Yet the dumb masses get all worked into a lather whenever the politicians start pushing for or against social agendas.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#12 Mar 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hello! are you and Irish the only two sane people left on the twin cities forum?
While I thank you for the positive commentary, I am none too sure we could be defined as sane for the mere fact that we are, indeed, still on this forum. But there are still a few others here that are not completely deranged.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#13 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
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Woodtick, how the heck are ya? Hopefully your winter is going well and you are enjoying good health.
Onto the topic above ... I will never understand the obsession of both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled because of particular beliefs.
As a citizen of the US, you are guaranteed certain rights. If you are gay, you do not get more or fewer rights than if you are straight. Yet the dumb masses get all worked into a lather whenever the politicians start pushing for or against social agendas.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled". Fragment people in to little groups, then strategically pit those groups against one another. Or in other words, divide and conquer.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#14 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
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Woodtick, how the heck are ya? Hopefully your winter is going well and you are enjoying good health.
Onto the topic above ... I will never understand the obsession of both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled because of particular beliefs.
As a citizen of the US, you are guaranteed certain rights. If you are gay, you do not get more or fewer rights than if you are straight. Yet the dumb masses get all worked into a lather whenever the politicians start pushing for or against social agendas.
No, not more or fewer rights....just same and equal ones.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Mar 6, 2014
ambientbake wrote:
School districts already are aware of bullying and have plans to deal with it. We do not need more laws!! This is nothing but a power play for the ho-mows to shove their lifestyle down our throats.
Thing is, it isn't just gays that get bullied in the school yard.
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Many kids who are either different or perceived as being different get bullied. Be it hair colour, physical and or mental disability, social status of family, etc....
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Some of those kids who bully at school also have parents who are bullies as well.
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Same goes for the kids who are being bullied at school. Some of those kids have bullies for parents. Or at times they have parents who don't find out because the parents assume everything is rosy in their kid's life. Because they had a rosy life while they were in school. And they don't want to hear of their offspring being bullied.
The Simple Plan

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Mar 6, 2014
ambientbake wrote:
School districts already are aware of bullying and have plans to deal with it. We do not need more laws!! This is nothing but a power play for the ho-mows to shove their lifestyle down our throats.
The school districts 'plan' is not working. Throwing $20 million at bullying is a waste of $20 million and a feeble excuse for sitting on their school district humptybutts and doing nothing
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The cheapest and most effective way to stop bullying is to JUST DO IT now

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#18 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
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Woodtick, how the heck are ya? Hopefully your winter is going well and you are enjoying good health.
Onto the topic above ... I will never understand the obsession of both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled because of particular beliefs.
As a citizen of the US, you are guaranteed certain rights. If you are gay, you do not get more or fewer rights than if you are straight. Yet the dumb masses get all worked into a lather whenever the politicians start pushing for or against social agendas.
well, on the issue of gays, many states have put in place unconstitutional laws discriminating soley against them. the republicans here in Mn that ran on the "jobs, jobs, jobs" ticket spent all their time on just that.(it failed and they were booted out. i love MN!)

those laws need to be removed and are being removed rapidly across this nation.

as you stated, we all have this constitution that protects us equally, we need to stop people from abusing it for their personal prejudices and bigotry.

i am glad our state has always been at the forefront of such actions....

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled". Fragment people in to little groups, then strategically pit those groups against one another. Or in other words, divide and conquer.
funny comment above! and yes you are correct also...i should have added that to my response to Irish. many dems in MN seem to feel a need to make a new law for every left-handed, tone-deaf, red-headed, hyphenated-named, person who has ever felt bullied or abuse. we have the laws already, just use them...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#20 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
<quoted text>
Woodtick, how the heck are ya? Hopefully your winter is going well and you are enjoying good health.
Onto the topic above ... I will never understand the obsession of both political parties with fragmenting portions of the population to fit into little groups that can be controlled because of particular beliefs.
As a citizen of the US, you are guaranteed certain rights. If you are gay, you do not get more or fewer rights than if you are straight. Yet the dumb masses get all worked into a lather whenever the politicians start pushing for or against social agendas.
sorry...yes, good health and spirit. hope you and yours are the same!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#23 Mar 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>well, on the issue of gays, many states have put in place unconstitutional laws discriminating soley against them. the republicans here in Mn that ran on the "jobs, jobs, jobs" ticket spent all their time on just that.(it failed and they were booted out. i love MN!)
those laws need to be removed and are being removed rapidly across this nation.
as you stated, we all have this constitution that protects us equally, we need to stop people from abusing it for their personal prejudices and bigotry.
i am glad our state has always been at the forefront of such actions....
I agree there should be no laws prohibiting gay marriage. At least as far as the state or any other government entity is concerned. Or laws "defining marriage between one man and one woman".
However, I do not believe the state has the right to force any kind of rules on this subject on the churches. If the catholics or baptists or jews or whomever, don't want to welcome gay people in to their flocks, the state should have no say in that. It is their loss. And gays, or LGBT, or transgender or whatever, should not be able to sue the churches because they refuse to marry them either. What would be the point since those marriages have nothing to do with the legalities of marriage. No matter which church you marry in, it still requires a civil marriage license to qualilfy for all of the legal benefits that go with it. Either that, or the state gets out of the marriage business alltogether and leaves it to the legal community to deal with the legalities. In other words, legally binding marriage contracts instead of marriage licenses.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#24 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
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I agree there should be no laws prohibiting gay marriage. At least as far as the state or any other government entity is concerned. Or laws "defining marriage between one man and one woman".
However, I do not believe the state has the right to force any kind of rules on this subject on the churches. If the catholics or baptists or jews or whomever, don't want to welcome gay people in to their flocks, the state should have no say in that. It is their loss. And gays, or LGBT, or transgender or whatever, should not be able to sue the churches because they refuse to marry them either. What would be the point since those marriages have nothing to do with the legalities of marriage. No matter which church you marry in, it still requires a civil marriage license to qualilfy for all of the legal benefits that go with it. Either that, or the state gets out of the marriage business alltogether and leaves it to the legal community to deal with the legalities. In other words, legally binding marriage contracts instead of marriage licenses.
the religious cults are exempt from following discrimination laws inside their tax subsidized churches...

when they play in the real world, then they have to follow real world rules...

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree there should be no laws prohibiting gay marriage. At least as far as the state or any other government entity is concerned. Or laws "defining marriage between one man and one woman".
However, I do not believe the state has the right to force any kind of rules on this subject on the churches. If the catholics or baptists or jews or whomever, don't want to welcome gay people in to their flocks, the state should have no say in that. It is their loss. And gays, or LGBT, or transgender or whatever, should not be able to sue the churches because they refuse to marry them either. What would be the point since those marriages have nothing to do with the legalities of marriage. No matter which church you marry in, it still requires a civil marriage license to qualilfy for all of the legal benefits that go with it. Either that, or the state gets out of the marriage business alltogether and leaves it to the legal community to deal with the legalities. In other words, legally binding marriage contracts instead of marriage licenses.
Only laws regarding marriages. Is that it should only be between consenting adults. Only exception to this is no blood relation marriages between those closer than second cousins.
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As well as that no minor under the age of 18 should be allowed to get married.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#26 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree there should be no laws prohibiting gay marriage. At least as far as the state or any other government entity is concerned. Or laws "defining marriage between one man and one woman".
However, I do not believe the state has the right to force any kind of rules on this subject on the churches. If the catholics or baptists or jews or whomever, don't want to welcome gay people in to their flocks, the state should have no say in that. It is their loss. And gays, or LGBT, or transgender or whatever, should not be able to sue the churches because they refuse to marry them either. What would be the point since those marriages have nothing to do with the legalities of marriage. No matter which church you marry in, it still requires a civil marriage license to qualilfy for all of the legal benefits that go with it. Either that, or the state gets out of the marriage business alltogether and leaves it to the legal community to deal with the legalities. In other words, legally binding marriage contracts instead of marriage licenses.
We're ahead of the curve on that. As a result of 62 years of exclusion; GAYS have developed our own networks of churches across America and in 42 nations; so snarling self-righteous store-front hate churches with pistol-packin' preachers are not a problem for us
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We typically embrace dying churches and lovingly restore them to their former glory as in this century old example
http://www.agoatlanta.org/Organs/AtlantaCity/...
which includes an adjoining wedding chapel for our marriage covenants
http://www.agoatlanta.org/Organs/AtlantaCity/...
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Here is a challenging overseas example rescued from centuries of salt-water corrosion and the ravages of time and neglect
http://www.pipeorganpage.ie/sites/default/fil...
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So you are correct. The $35 civil marriage license sold by the clerk in the county courthouse is what we're after
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We already have all the rest
Visitor from ice box

Honolulu, HI

#27 Mar 6, 2014
Why do gay women act like gestapo walking down a sidewalk.

They walk next to each other and force everyone to stand aside, they act like bullies..

People in glass hoses shouldn't throw stones.

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