Gay Marriage Vs. the First Amendment

Gay Marriage Vs. the First Amendment

There are 404 comments on the WJKX-FM Hattiesburg story from Aug 22, 2014, titled Gay Marriage Vs. the First Amendment. In it, WJKX-FM Hattiesburg reports that:

As is only to be expected, a fresh wave of controversy is swirling around a court's imposition of massive fines on two New York farmers who don't want a gay couple to get married on their property.

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“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#1 Aug 22, 2014
The problem ISN'T with Gays and Lesbians exercising their right to marry.....the problem lies with folks who want to use their religious beliefs as a way to DISCRIMINATE against a group of individuals SOLELY because of who they are.

I probably WOULDN'T have an issue with folks standing strong in their religious convictions IF they used it TOWARDS all individuals or couples who wanted flowers, cakes, dresses or a venue for their wedding......I mean divorce is a sin, NOT being a virgin is a sin, fornication is a sin....YET, these highly religious folks AREN'T denying flowers, cakes, dresses or venues to opposite-sex couples who have committed a sin according to the bible......they just use or try to use their highly held religious beliefs AGAINST Gays and Lesbians....that's called by a HYPOCRITE and it's DISCRIMINATORY!!!

Religious folks CAN'T claim that their religious freedoms are being taken from them ONLY as it applies to how they invoke that religious belief AGAINST just one minority group of individuals!!!
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Aug 22, 2014
Of course it's a property routinely rented out to the public at large.

So? I might want to bar fundie aazzhats from marrying at my wedding facility...for reasons of my religious beliefs. And lots of right wingers would like to bar racial minorities from renting their property.

But that's not the way it works.
Reemus

Kansas City, MO

#4 Aug 22, 2014
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Other sins like divorce, adultery and pre-marital sex aren't even in the same league.

You can't just force homosexuality on a society overnight and expect everybody to accept just it. I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it. It's disgusting.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#5 Aug 22, 2014
I don't get it, do they normally rent out the farm as a wedding venue? The article did not seem to say.

If they do and make money off of the rentals, they are not only bigot but fools.
Frontline Fighter

West Mifflin, PA

#6 Aug 22, 2014
"We are now learning that gay marriage, like everything else, becomes hideously more complex and messy when it goes from ideological concept to political execution. Rather than a cut-and-dried application of a clean rational rule, the ‘implementation’ of gay marriage demands that government routinely intervene in the most intimate and idiosyncratic details of our lives, our property, and our conscience."

Read more: http://www.102jkx.com/articles/politics-10470... :

Anyone with a lick of sense saw this coming a mile away, and that is why we opposed "gay marriage" in the first place. To legalize it is to open a great big can of nasty, vicious worms shepherded by nasty, vicious preying spiders - fat cat lawyers who are stuffing money in their bulging pockets hand over fist from litigation fees. The voices of conservative reason try to warn against this, but the ears of liberalism, dulled by the incessant drumbeat of equality, equality, equality peddled by the socialists, wouldn't listen..
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Aug 22, 2014
Reemus wrote:
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Other sins like divorce, adultery and pre-marital sex aren't even in the same league.
You can't just force homosexuality on a society overnight and expect everybody to accept just it. I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it. It's disgusting.
Only a tiny, sick minority has any substantial problem with homosexuality these days.

Coveting is (against) a Commandment. Where's the Commandment about homosexuality? Why do you _bear false witness_ the way you do?

The only reason you say that homosexuality is a worse sin than any other is that you have a deep seated, personal, psychological problem around homosexuality. There is nothing in the buybull to support you contention that adultery or divorce aren't in the same league. Nothing. You made that up out of your sexual sickness.

Civil rights don't depend on what you falsely claim the buybull says nor on what you personally say, with evident fascination, that you find disgusting. You're an uneducated, prevaricating, fundie rube. A common bigot on the way out from educated society.
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Aug 22, 2014
JohnInToronto wrote:
I don't get it, do they normally rent out the farm as a wedding venue?
The case does not make any sense unless they do rent it out generally.

Because if it were literally just someone's farmhouse of course there would no obligation to accommodate _any_ couple, whether defined by religion or race or any other trait.
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Aug 22, 2014
Frontline Fighter wrote:
"The ‘implementation’ of gay [sic] marriage demands that government routinely intervene in the most intimate and idiosyncratic details of our lives, our property, and our conscience."
That nonsense applies "logically" just as well to heterosexual marriage. The government issues marriage licenses and regulates marriages via all manner of laws and court proceedings in all manner of very personal issues for male-female couples.

You're very sick. That's all you're really saying.
Frontline Fighter

West Mifflin, PA

#10 Aug 22, 2014
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel wrote:
<quoted text>
That nonsense applies "logically" just as well to heterosexual marriage. The government issues marriage licenses and regulates marriages via all manner of laws and court proceedings in all manner of very personal issues for male-female couples.
You're very sick. That's all you're really saying.

That ain't much to say. You're reaching.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#11 Aug 22, 2014
Reemus wrote:
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Other sins like divorce, adultery and pre-marital sex aren't even in the same league.
You can't just force homosexuality on a society overnight and expect everybody to accept just it. I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it. It's disgusting.
I never cease to be amazed that self-assuredness of one's statements is directly proportional to the speaker's ignorance--or inversely proportional to their actual knowledge of the subject. In fact, theft and adultery are declared to be abominations in the very same chapters that address homosexuality. Similar abominations include sowing two crops in the same field, mixing fibers, and eating shellfish.

When you learn something about your purported religion, then you can begin espousing its beliefs to others. A great place for you to begin your Bible studies would be Proverbs 17:28.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#12 Aug 22, 2014
Reemus wrote:
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Other sins like divorce, adultery and pre-marital sex aren't even in the same league.
You can't just force homosexuality on a society overnight and expect everybody to accept just it. I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it. It's disgusting.
There's no such thing as "forc(ing) homosexuality on a society". That's not something that happens. Please explain to use how you are being "forced to accept" it, what that looks like, and how that negatively impacts your life.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#13 Aug 22, 2014
This whole "I can't *participate* in your wedding by... " whatever is beyond ridiculous.

Since when is the florist or the baker or the rental hall agent invited to the wedding???? They're NOT participating in the wedding. They're providing professional services, for which they are paid. The GUESTS, the couple getting married, and the celebrant (if there is one) are participating in the wedding, NOT THE FREAKING VENDORS!!!

When will the religious hypocrites get their head out of their ass about this?? And when will it end?? Does an airline pilot have the right to refuse to fly a commercial flight if he or she finds out that there's a gay couple on board flying to their honeymoon destination because their "religious beliefs" forbid them from "participating in" a same-sex marriage?? Do the flight attendants not have to serve them coffee if they object to same-sex marriage?? WTF is wrong with people?

Since when does everyone get a say in someone else's marriage?? Oh, yeah. When GAY people wanted to get married. All of a sudden what was no one else's business becomes prime target for those without lives of their own to judge and grandstand over. Nice.
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Aug 22, 2014
Frontline Fighter wrote:
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That ain't much to say. You're reaching.
We expect uneducated, stupid, sexually conflicted homophobes to avoid the subject.

Everything in that posted drivel of yours about state interference into personal, marital matters applies just as readily to heterosexual marriages.

Yet you posted the drivel as some sort of argument against marriage equality.

That's called "bearing false witness," which our talibangelical bigots sure seem to excel at.

Your focus on homosexuality is a mental disorder you have, that's all. It's not about laws or rights or religion. It's your psychological problem.
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Aug 22, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact, theft and adultery are declared to be abominations in the very same chapters that address homosexuality. Similar abominations include sowing two crops in the same field, mixing fibers, and eating shellfish.
Even in the New Testament passages the evilgelical nutcases with sex problems like to harp on, such as the Corinthians one, adultery is mentioned right there on par with...with other things that may or may not refer to homosexuality.

The homosexual focus is not scriptural. It is psychological only. These freeeks are kidding only themselves in making this stuff up about the buybull, and most of the time not even that. Most of the time they know their trash is just lying, anti gay defamation.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#16 Aug 22, 2014
I see I made my point.......the judging icons prove it.......lol!!!

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#17 Aug 22, 2014
Reemus wrote:
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Other sins like divorce, adultery and pre-marital sex aren't even in the same league.
You can't just force homosexuality on a society overnight and expect everybody to accept just it. I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it. It's disgusting.
I don't accept you.
You are disgusting.
Stop trying to force your unacceptable, disgusting. hateful, bigoted, sinful garbage on everyone.
Currywurst

Plano, TX

#18 Aug 22, 2014
Reemus wrote:
You have to realize that to most people, especially religious people, homosexuality is not only a sin, it's an abomination. It's absolutely UNACCEPTABLE....

....I'm not religious at all and I don't accept it.
Funny how you make an excuse for the "religious people" then claim you're "not religious at all". "You have to realize" that's a sure sign you're a troll. So, troll, if it's such an abomination then why isn't it one of the commandments? Or was it on the 3rd tablet; you know, the one Mel Brooks dropped?
dawgs

London, KY

#19 Aug 22, 2014
All gays will burn in hell!
Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Aug 22, 2014
dawgs wrote:
All gays will burn in hell!
That's simply idle trolling or the usual closet case issues talking.

It is expressly not the place of living Christians to know or to judge who will go to hell or not. This fact is a basic tenet of the religion, which christianists routinely bray about while knowing nothing of it.

Now go somewhere else and bray how unrepentant coveters will "burn in hell."

You and your sort of bigot are mentally ill is all. And stupid. And lying.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#22 Aug 23, 2014
Frontline Fighter wrote:
"We are now learning that gay marriage, like everything else, becomes hideously more complex and messy when it goes from ideological concept to political execution. Rather than a cut-and-dried application of a clean rational rule, the ‘implementation’ of gay marriage demands that government routinely intervene in the most intimate and idiosyncratic details of our lives, our property, and our conscience."
Read more: http://www.102jkx.com/articles/politics-10470... :
Anyone with a lick of sense saw this coming a mile away, and that is why we opposed "gay marriage" in the first place. To legalize it is to open a great big can of nasty, vicious worms shepherded by nasty, vicious preying spiders - fat cat lawyers who are stuffing money in their bulging pockets hand over fist from litigation fees. The voices of conservative reason try to warn against this, but the ears of liberalism, dulled by the incessant drumbeat of equality, equality, equality peddled by the socialists, wouldn't listen..
Abolishing slavery was a messy business too, ultimately leading to a civil war that claimed the lives of thousands of people -- but it was the right thing to do. The fact that it may be costly to change some deeply ingrained wrong is not sufficient reason to avoid it -- that is not the American way. If we shied away from controversy we would still have slaves, and only white males would be landowners and have the vote, not to mention that we would probably all still be subjects of the British crown. No, we tackle wrongs and make them right, whatever the sacrifice.

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