Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36047 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#19718 Aug 29, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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At one time the atom was the smallest particle that existed to science.
No dear, the atom was never the smallest particle that existed to science, it was merely the smallest known. There were always smaller particles.
No Surprise wrote:
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Shall we approach that topic the way you have approached people calling a bat a bird 2500 years ago? Are you that pathetically ignorant?
No dear, because science never published a book claiming it to be the end all be all of information. Only your ridiculous bible does that.
No Surprise wrote:
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I explained why they called it a bird.
No, you made an excuse as to why they called it a bird.
No Surprise wrote:
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It had wings and flew like a bird. To them 2500 years ago that made it a bird. There is no excuse in what I stated.
Yes, it is an excuse. Bats have never been birds. Your bible gets things wrong. Sorry you are in denial of that. It got bats wrong, and it got homosexuality wrong.
No Surprise wrote:
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But what is down right pathetically ignorant and stupid, is your insinuating that 2500 years ago people should have known that the bat wasn't a bird.
No, what is down right pathetically ignorant and stupid is anyone claiming that the bible is some sort of tome of authority.
No Surprise wrote:
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That equates to you thinking people shouldn't have thought the earth was flat, or that they shouldn't have thought they were the center of the universe.
It doesn't equate that at all. I'm well aware that the bible is nothing but a bunch of fairy tales. It's you fundies that seem to think it's a book of authority.
No Surprise wrote:
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Hindsight is great but don't allow it to make an *ss of yourself as you have let it be done to yourself, just saying :)
You mean like pretending you know something about homosexuality when in fact your simply a bible thumping idiot? The only one here making an ass of themselves is you dear.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#19719 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Then why are you so obsessed with it? You're the only one talking about it jackass.
I'm on a crusade to stop anal abuse.

How about you join the cause as a reformed sphincter muscle abuser?

Think of the good we can do together!
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#19722 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Then why are you so obsessed with it? You're the only one talking about it jackass.
Now that is just a lie. Rules for radicals I believe.
Problem the only ones osessing about anal sex is the very community who is forced to do it. That would be you and yours pervert.
Single out, marginalize and attack-----Saul would be proud of you comrade
The AssTroll Stopper

United States

#19723 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>Then why are you so obsessed with it? You're the only one talking about it jackass.
Do you like taking a d!ck up your a:ss???
The AssTroll Stopper

United States

#19724 Aug 29, 2013
maria wrote:
Reverend Alan:to which Christian sect do you belong?
Rev. Fagg@t is no Christian.
The AssTroll Stopper

United States

#19725 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
John 3:13 Jesus falsely stated: "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

This verse is not only inaccurate historically as 2 Kings 2:11 shows: 2 Kings 2:11"...behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." but also absurd on its face. If the son of man (Jesus) is down here on earth speaking then how could he be in heaven.
Quit spewing your BS, you piece of worthless sh!t. By the way Queer, stay away from the little boys tonight.

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#19726 Aug 29, 2013
maria wrote:
Reverend Alan:to which Christian sect do you belong?
I am not now, nor have I ever been a Christian, therefore I do not belong to any of the 33,000 christian sects. I became a 'card carrying' Reverend in 1967, it cost me $1.00. I was always amazed and appalled by the 'foaming at the mouth' Christian preachers who feel their homophobia comes from the God they invented in their own image.

Mostly I could not understand their extreme interested in what my gay cousin did in bed and I really hated them passing out little Bible tracks to try and make my cousin feel bad that he liked boys instead of girls.

So I joined the Biblical Errancy Panel which has collected many of the problems found in the Bible. I enjoy showing Christians their biblical ignorance and how their assertions are nothing more than a bad opinion.

I had been an atheist all my life until just recently when I moved on to become an anti-theist.

“Good day to you!”

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#19727 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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No one appointed your sorry ass to make new rules. Homosexuality and same sex marriage do not need to be justified, especially to a pathetic God hater like yourself and KiMerde.
1 Peter 4:15 KJV, "But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters."
lol...you get funnier and funnier. You a non-believer schooling others in the beliefs of a god? How typically hypocritical of you as usual.
By the way for your present ignorance of what you just stated that you're clueless of, homosexuality WAS IN FACT JUSTIFIED as NORMAL by the APA. That justification by the shrink gould is what justified state legislators to begin to make laws FOR homosexuality instead of justifying reasons for making laws against homosexuals as had been previously done.
Get another clue oh clueless one, this thread is about Homosexuality and the Bible...fricking what a goof...

“Good day to you!”

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#19728 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Reading Bible quotes that disqualify the Bible and everything you have always believed make you itch. You need to grow up a bit before you take on someone like myself who actually knows something about the Bible.
Again that's funny you claim to know the Bible. Oh you know the Bible alright, you know the Bible from a negative rip it apart I hate the fricking thing prejudiced viewpoint, that I will agree with :)
But you don't know anything of the Bible from an open inquiring non-prejudicial examine the four 'w's' of it in an intelligent manner.
If someone wants to be a prejudicial negative hating anti-Bible critic you're the dude to see alright. But you can try and convince me I'm wrong :)

“Good day to you!”

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#19729 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Who ever wrote the Bible was pathetically ignorant as are you for defending the worlds most stupid book. Any book that says the bat is a bird, homosexuality is wrong, a woman turned into a pillar of salt (Gen. 19:26), the sun went backward 10 degrees on the sundial (2 Kings 20:11), and quails came from the sea (Num. 11:31) is going to have great difficulty demonstrating its scientific precision to any reasonably scientific mind.
Whoever wrote the Bible? That was an ignorant statement from someone claiming to know the Bible. That statement called yourself a liar that you claim to know the Bible. There is no 'whoever' and never has been a 'whoever' that wrote the Bible. The Bible is a compilation of many books by many authors. And each Bible printed was put together by many individuals.
Plus the fact that you think 2500 years ago people should have known what men of science declared in the 17th century that the flying animal we call a bat we don't call a bird, that you declare they should have known what we believe now reveals your true idiocy and pathetic stupidity of thought.
In many, many instances you cannot nor will you ever be able to compare what we know now to how ancient people believed. Impossible and plain out right stupid to do.
The bat was the size of a small bird and it flew like a bird at night and sometimes in the day. Thus ancient people called it a bird. If you can't comprehend that information well so be it.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#19730 Aug 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm on a crusade to stop anal abuse.
Well, that just makes you creepier then previously imagined. Especially given that their is absolutely no research that supports your made up nonsense about anal sex. The fact that you are thinking about other people's sex is sad and disgusting. You should consider speaking to therapist, and having your meds upped.
KiMare wrote:
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How about you join the cause as a reformed sphincter muscle abuser?
You're creepy.
KiMare wrote:
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Think of the good we can do together!
I have no desire to consider who is having anal sex and who isn't. Only pathetic weirdo's would be doing this.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

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#19731 Aug 29, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
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Do you like taking a d!ck up your a:ss???
Like I said. Only weirdos spend time thinking about and talking about the sex that other people have.

“Good day to you!”

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#19732 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Prov. 12:22, "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord."
This is really humorous, a non-believer trying to teach/correct people about the Bible...to funny dude...
I have stated in other threads I believe in God. I have my personal reasons for my belief as you have personal reasons not to believe. But I haven't stated my opinion of the Bible. But I will for you.
The Books of the Bible have been penned by many different authors. And nearly each book is having older copies found of it by a different author. So though the authors change, the context of each book largely remains the same. The periods of when the books were 'supposededly' originally written, pieces of the past are being dug up with each passing year to validate things mentioned in these books of those time periods. The books of the Bible have mentioned people, places, geography that at one time were unknown and now those things mentioned have been found to have existed.
But the books of the Bible are written by humans. And humans make non-purposeful and purposeful mistakes when copying. So yes I know the Bible contains it's share of problems, errors, mistakes and highly questionable writings.
Need to know anything else?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#19733 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Well, that just makes you creepier then previously imagined. Especially given that their is absolutely no research that supports your made up nonsense about anal sex. The fact that you are thinking about other people's sex is sad and disgusting. You should consider speaking to therapist, and having your meds upped.
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You're creepy.
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I have no desire to consider who is having anal sex and who isn't. Only pathetic weirdo's would be doing this.
Hardly creepy.

What is creepy is people excusing an inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning behavior, and recruiting innocent young homosexuals.

Why would you not want to save them?
The AssTroll Stopper

United States

#19734 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said. Only weirdos spend time thinking about and talking about the sex that other people have.
You must be a Queer weirdo. LMFAO
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#19735 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Like I said. Only weirdos spend time thinking about and talking about the sex that other people have.
Fella a perversion like anal is not sex at all.
People who do that are the weirdos.

“Good day to you!”

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#19736 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Your ignorance is astounding. Just more of your unfounded and wholly unconvincing assertions.
All homophobia comes from the Bible, and it is irrelevant what ancient people who believed the earth was flat believed about homosexuality.
In America if I wish to engage in any peaceful sexual activity with another consenting adult it is none of your business. And it is the responsibility of the Government to protect that right and to protect me from busybodies like yourself.
You speak from ignorance and misinformation and while you may have a legal right to visit here to stir up dissension between gay people and homophobes you do not have a moral right to do so.
All that you do here is an abomination, a crime against humanity and you are wholly unconvincing except for convincing us that you are a terrible horrible person who is one airplane short of being a terrorist.
Prov. 6:16 says, "there are 6 things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him" and the 19th verse says one of these is, "...a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers."
Guess who hates you!
"...a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers." That quote fits you quite well. You're in here every day telling people how to think and how not to think by your beliefs of how you think other people should think as you do. Doing that also defines you as a real little dictator in the making.
I on the other hand stated a simple fact that it's not wise to us the Bible to justify homosexuality/SSM because it supports neither. I also stated a simple fact of science 101 that humans born with same sex attractions are an abnormality/unnatural/glitch event as nature does it's best to make as many humans through their DNA to be opposite sex in attraction so the human specie can repopulate and not grow extinct. But you have an issue with those facts which are neither homophobic nor negative towards one being same sex attracted.
By the way, I realize after reading your statements how uninformed you really are at times. Like the lie that all homophobia comes from the Bible. Unfortunately for you which discredits your lie more, most kids today are raised in non-religious environments and are not influenced by Bible scripture who detest homosexuals and or SSM. Most of those kids are driven by an irrational hatred they don't even understand as to why they hate homosexuals and or SSM.
You like to make out right lies and cause dissention just to have something negative to say/do as that is what you're about.

“Good day to you!”

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#19737 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Anyone and everyone who claims God wrote the Bible is responsible for the homophobia in the world. There is no such thing as a good Christian. To be a Christian is to be abominable and to bring great harm to other people; a crime against humanity.
Using your pathetic negative twisted reasoning/logic in the above the opposite would then have to be true also according to you. That anyone and everyone who claims God wrote the Bible is responsible for the love and forgiveness in the world. That is your own twisted sense of reasoning/logic. Now what?

“Good day to you!”

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#19738 Aug 29, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You twist everything I write. I am saying you are are wrong and you have the right to believe things that are wrong. I question your moral bankruptcy for harassing gays with your lies and mis-information because you enjoy hurting people as does KiMerde.
I am saying that what ever peaceful activity any two consenting adults which to engage in is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
It is your moral bankruptcy that makes you stick your nose into the business of others when it is not wanted.
I am not so much concerned about what you write as that you write it and try to shove it down the throats of gay people who have heard it all before and no longer want to hear it.
Your arrogance is appalling.
I don't twist everything you write. But when you use obvious twisted reasoning/logic to make statements that contain lies or are outright lies filled with deceit and deception, I do reply back to you often using your own twisted sense of reasoning and logic and you don't seem to appreciate me doing that.
Next this thread is about the discussions related to homosexuality and Bible. If you don't like these discussions, vacate the thread would be your solution.
And speaking of shoveing one's opinions down other throats, you should read your above post for an example.

“Good day to you!”

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#19740 Aug 29, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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No dear, the atom was never the smallest particle that existed to science, it was merely the smallest known. There were always smaller particles.
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No dear, because science never published a book claiming it to be the end all be all of information. Only your ridiculous bible does that.
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No, you made an excuse as to why they called it a bird.
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Yes, it is an excuse. Bats have never been birds. Your bible gets things wrong. Sorry you are in denial of that. It got bats wrong, and it got homosexuality wrong.
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No, what is down right pathetically ignorant and stupid is anyone claiming that the bible is some sort of tome of authority.
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It doesn't equate that at all. I'm well aware that the bible is nothing but a bunch of fairy tales. It's you fundies that seem to think it's a book of authority.
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You mean like pretending you know something about homosexuality when in fact your simply a bible thumping idiot? The only one here making an ass of themselves is you dear.
Hindsight makes you a total *ss and all you just posted.

At one time the atom was the smallest discovered particle. Injecting what would later be found in the future to dismiss a fact of that past which didn't yet exist is an idiot's reasoning. That's a fact.
I agree only a fool would claim all one needed to be known about an invisible being that can't be scientifically proven to exist is in a book.
As a fool you claim I made an excuse for why people 2500 years ago thought the bat was a bird. Unfortunately it's your idiocy that won't accept the reasoning for why people 2500 years ago did in fact call the bat a bird. And that isn't an excuse. It's a matter of fact for why they did call a bat a bird. But I understand idiots as yourself think people 2500 years ago should have had our advancement in thinking to know what we know now 2500 years later. But as an idiot with absurd expectations of how you think people should have thought 2500 years ago well, that's your bad.
And you're bad again. Idiocy bad. The Bible isn't mine or I'd be a very rich person if it was. And you're really hung up on this bat thing, just saying.
You can whine and bicker all you want in protest, but the Bible must hold some sort of authority because people allowed it to shape the laws and lives of several types of people on at least two different continents for the last 1800 years. That fact gives it some credibility for some kind of authority, just saying.
And a true judgemental prejudicial bigoted *ss you have made of yourself again in just one post. See, you have no idea of what my sexual orientation is. You have assumed and have made a pathetic *ss and idiot of yourself as usual now.

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