Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36050 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

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#18606 Jun 25, 2013
Brad Burrito Boy Pekin Ill wrote:
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Christians are commanded to warn others.
Christians are commanded to mind their own business.

1 Peter 4:15 KJV, "But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters."

Prov. 19:9 RSV "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who utters lies will perish"

You are going to perish Burrito Boy. You have been warned.

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#18607 Jun 25, 2013
Brad wrote:
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God will not be mocked.
Every single one of my posts mocks God. You have lied again.

Prov. 12:22, "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord."

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#18608 Jun 25, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>If you feel 'abused' by God's Word, you really need to reconsider your choices.
If you were a Christian and cared about your eternal destination, you would follow God's Commands against all homosexual behavior and repent and change your ways.
Christians are commanded to warn others.
You have been warned.
Your eternal destination depends upon your choices.
God will not be mocked.
His word is plain and clear, repeatedly condemning your homosexual lifestyle choice.
The Bible is NOT God's word. YOU Burrito Boy Pekin Ill are not a Christian. Lies, lies and more lies. You eternal destination is eternal suffering because you mock God and the Bible. If "God's word" is so plain and clear then why do you refuse to accept the other 33,000 verses [instead of only those 6 anti-gay verses].

Romans 14:14,[MARY] "There is nothing un-natural of itself."

Matt. 18:19-20,[GW] "I can guarantee again that if two of you agree on anything here on earth, my Father in heaven will accept it.

Ecclesiastes 3:1, "There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:"

2 cor. 3:17, "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty,"

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#18609 Jun 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I spit on your puny non-existent God.
Hey look!!!!!
I'm still here. Your God is nothing to me.
His God is nothing to him either. He mocks his God left and right while insisting we accept 6 verses while he refuses to acknowledge 33,000 verses. What a "simple minded" moron David Buritto Boy Pekin Ill is.

One of the most insidious biblical teachings is that the intellect is not to be trusted as the final arbiter of one's decisions. Faith in Jesus, theological insights, and spiritual gifts are to replace knowledge, disputation, and philosophy as the ultimate source of truth. In effect, faith is to replace proof, hope is to replace work, and trust is to replace evidence. People are to rely on forces and beings beyond their control rather than their own talents and abilities. This debilitating approach to life's challenges, which can only lead to self-effacement and low self-esteem, is exemplified in such verses as:

HEB. 11:1 ("Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for the conviction (evidence--KJV) of things not seen"),
ECCLE. 6:8 ("For what hath the wise more than the fool...."),
1 COR. 1:22-23 RSV ("For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles...."),
1 COR. 4:10 ("We are fool's for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ...."),
1 COR. 2:1-2 RSV ("I {Paul} did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God in lofty words or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified"),
1 COR. 3:18-19 ("Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God"),
1 COR. 1:19-21 RSV ("For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of the clever I will thwart. Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom...."),
1 COR. 2:13-14 ("And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit. The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned"),
1 COR. 2:4 ("...and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom...."),
ECCLE. 1:18 ("For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow"),
1 COR. 1:17 ("For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words...."),
1 COR. 4:4 ("For I know nothing by myself...."),
1 COR. 1:25-27 RSV ("For the foolishness of God is wiser than men....not many of you were wise according to worldly standards...but God chose what is foolishness in the world to shame the wise...."),
1 COR. 8:1-2 ("...knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. If any one imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know"),
1 COR. 2:6-7 RSV ("Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God...."), and
COL. 2:8 RSV ("See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ").

to be continued...

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#18610 Jun 25, 2013
Central to any sensible society is the belief that truth is discovered through the interchange of ideas in an open forum. Yet, Christians are repeatedly admonished to avoid those of another persuasion and shun the exchange of ideas through dialogue. They are told to flee non-biblical ideas because the latter are not only wrong and lead believers astray but possessed by those with less than honorable motives. Christian beliefs are not to be open to questions and doubts. Many verses expose these dogmatic sentiments:

ROM. 16:17-18 RSV ("I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who created dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded"),

2 TIM. 2:16-17 ("Avoid such godless chatter, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will eat its way like gangrene"),
1 TIM. 6:20 ("O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called...."),
2 TIM. 2:14 RSV ("Remind them of this, and charge them before the Lord to avoid disputing about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers"),
TITUS 3:9-10 ("But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him...."),
ROM. 14:1 RSV ("As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not for disputes over opinions"),
1 TIM. 6:3-5 RSV ("If any one teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching which accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit, he knows nothing; he has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words, which produce envy, dissensions, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among men...."),
COL. 2:4 ("I say this in order that no one may delude you with beguiling speech"),
2 TIM. 2:23-25 RSV ("Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies, you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to every one, an apt teacher, forbearing, correcting his opponents with gentleness").

How one corrects one's opponents with gentleness after one has been repeatedly told to avoid the opposition entirely is rather hard to fathom.

Imagine giving your followers the impression in

2 THESS. 3:2 ("And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith"),
1 JOHN 2:22 ("Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son"), and
2 JOHN 7 ("For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist")

that all those who lack faith in Christianity in general and Jesus in particular are unreasonable and wicked! Who would be open to dialogue with anybody so portrayed?

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#18611 Jun 25, 2013
ROM. 16:17-18 RSV ("I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who created dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded"),

This is one of my favorite verses, plainly and simply St. Paul is calling Pekin Ill "the simple-minded."

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#18612 Jun 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Golly gee. Save yourself David. Since you are not a Christian you are unqualified to warn people about anything.
Exactly right, and until Burrito Boy David drinks a quart of Draino no one is paying any attention to anything he posts. He is like an annoying mosquito. He is a Bible hating moron who pretends he is pleasing in the eye of God when he violates what God tells him to do. We have all enumerated countless example of where Pekin Ill violates biblical teachings and clearly he is not going to obey the Bible. I suspect that each time he goes out and finds a man to have sex with he returns home to his computer and posts those 6 anti gay verses like that makes his homosexual activities acceptable to the con-artist who preaches at the front of his church.

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#18613 Jun 25, 2013
Let us not gloss over this verse David Pekin Ill.

GOD TO PEKIN IL: TITUS 3:9-10 ("But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him....")

God is telling you to have nothing to do with those here in this discussion who mock God. Mock, mock, mock, mock.

I wish you would obey the Bible David burrito boy, not just here, but where you can drink that quart of Draino.

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#18614 Jun 25, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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His God is nothing to him either. He mocks his God left and right while insisting we accept 6 verses while he refuses to acknowledge 33,000 verses. What a "simple minded" moron David Buritto Boy Pekin Ill is.
One of the most insidious biblical teachings is that the intellect is not to be trusted as the final arbiter of one's decisions. Faith in Jesus, theological insights, and spiritual gifts are to replace knowledge, disputation, and philosophy as the ultimate source of truth. In effect, faith is to replace proof, hope is to replace work, and trust is to replace evidence. People are to rely on forces and beings beyond their control rather than their own talents and abilities. This debilitating approach to life's challenges, which can only lead to self-effacement and low self-esteem, is exemplified in such verses as:
HEB. 11:1 ("Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for the conviction (evidence--KJV) of things not seen"),
ECCLE. 6:8 ("For what hath the wise more than the fool...."),
1 COR. 1:22-23 RSV ("For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles...."),
1 COR. 4:10 ("We are fool's for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ...."),
1 COR. 2:1-2 RSV ("I {Paul} did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God in lofty words or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified"),
1 COR. 3:18-19 ("Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God"),
1 COR. 1:19-21 RSV ("For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of the clever I will thwart. Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom...."),
1 COR. 2:13-14 ("And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit. The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned"),
1 COR. 2:4 ("...and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom...."),
ECCLE. 1:18 ("For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow"),
1 COR. 1:17 ("For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words...."),
1 COR. 4:4 ("For I know nothing by myself...."),
1 COR. 1:25-27 RSV ("For the foolishness of God is wiser than men....not many of you were wise according to worldly standards...but God chose what is foolishness in the world to shame the wise...."),
1 COR. 8:1-2 ("...knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. If any one imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know"),
1 COR. 2:6-7 RSV ("Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God...."), and
COL. 2:8 RSV ("See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ").
to be continued...
Exactly. He makes a total mockery of the Bible.

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#18615 Jun 25, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Exactly. He makes a total mockery of the Bible.
Exactly, he uses the Bible in a vain attempt to deceive us. His biblical ignorance is astounding, I wish he would drink the Draino, we all know God wants him to.

DRINK THE DRAINO BURRITO BOY, REFUSING TO DRINK IT ONLY PROVES YOU DO NOT TRUST THE BIBLE.

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#18616 Jun 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Exactly, he uses the Bible in a vain attempt to deceive us. His biblical ignorance is astounding, I wish he would drink the Draino, we all know God wants him to.
DRINK THE DRAINO BURRITO BOY, REFUSING TO DRINK IT ONLY PROVES YOU DO NOT TRUST THE BIBLE.
R1 is a big closet case who watches gay porn to get off.

“Trolls are Clueless”

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#18617 Jun 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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R1 is a big closet case who watches gay porn to get off.
Ditto for Burrito Boy David.

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#18618 Jun 26, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
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Ditto for Burrito Boy David.
He really is a pathetic evil.

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#18619 Jun 26, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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R1 is a big closet case who watches gay porn to get off.
I am not surprised.

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#18620 Jun 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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He really is a pathetic evil.
Not really. Just a very sad case of self-hatred.
heartandmind

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#18621 Jun 26, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>If you feel 'abused' by God's Word, you really need to reconsider your choices.
If you were a Christian and cared about your eternal destination, you would follow God's Commands against all homosexual behavior and repent and change your ways.
Christians are commanded to warn others.
You have been warned.
Your eternal destination depends upon your choices.
God will not be mocked.
His word is plain and clear, repeatedly condemning your homosexual lifestyle choice.
i don't feel abused by God's word. I feel loved by God.

so, tell us. which verse don't apply to you? and where does it say that you're excluded from these admonishments?

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#18622 Jun 26, 2013
Decision made by the supreme court...the sgaf are happy today...

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#18624 Jun 27, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
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Ditto for Burrito Boy David.
I think Burrito Boy David has finally learned that he can not trust his Bible.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" Matt. 7:7-8, Luke 11:9-10;
"Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you" John 16:23;
"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive" Matt. 21:22.

He believed that and asked BibleGod to rid him of his homosexual desires and it didn't happened. He is still attracted to boys like he always has been and always will be.

Its funny how we can all see how these three verses are complete and total lies yet "the simple-minded" still drag out those 6 anti-gay verses and expect us to accept them. Very strange indeed.

Since obviously the Bible can not be trusted here, why should it be trusted to tell us about homosexuality?

“Trolls are Clueless”

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#18625 Jun 27, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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I think Burrito Boy David has finally learned that he can not trust his Bible.
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" Matt. 7:7-8, Luke 11:9-10;
"Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you" John 16:23;
"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive" Matt. 21:22.
He believed that and asked BibleGod to rid him of his homosexual desires and it didn't happened. He is still attracted to boys like he always has been and always will be.
Its funny how we can all see how these three verses are complete and total lies yet "the simple-minded" still drag out those 6 anti-gay verses and expect us to accept them. Very strange indeed.
Since obviously the Bible can not be trusted here, why should it be trusted to tell us about homosexuality?
First Exodus disbands, now SSM moves forward. David must feel really threatened. He is becoming all the more irrelevant along with his superstitious beliefs.

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#18626 Jun 28, 2013
AMEN! DOMA IS DONE! Thank you Jesus!

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