Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36052 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17587 Apr 8, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
All the religious ask questions about the sex acts. Any worthwhile relationship is about love. And that is done by more ways than just physical contact. Just as with hetero couple,most the relationship is emotiinal. Wanting to live life together no matter what happens. This I promised him. That bonding went beyond the physical. No matter he become paralyized,disfiqured, I still love him. I seen a few same sex couples with such devotion. Not rocket science to fiqure out. Yet the religious ask what they should know. Just observing heteros I fiqured out relationships and the sex acts. And I'm gay. But the religious can't fiqure it out us.
Have you had any formal schoolng?
Like you butcher the English language really badly.
I guess lack of education is probably what got you into this same sex crap huh. You do know what a woman is right?
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17588 Apr 8, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you had any formal schoolng?
Like you butcher the English language really badly.
I guess lack of education is probably what got you into this same sex crap huh. You do know what a woman is right?
You have a frw misspellings. Go over your posts. I did'nt point them out. So much for your schooling. SO WHAT? Even publishings make mistakes. Next misspelling you do I'll point it out.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17589 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
All that still won't change the fact that ss couples can never be married and that anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
That is the reality of science, not the Bible.
Just a heads up Vicky, I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian. I enjoy sinking the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twisting it with a smirk.
You said 'ouch'.
Smirk.
Same sex couples can and do get married. Anal sex is irrelevant. You are delusional.
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17590 Apr 8, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are all queers so why on earth would I be looking there.
"queer adjective \&#712;kwir\
Definition of QUEER
1a : worthless, counterfeit <queer money> b : questionable, suspicious
2a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric, unconventional (2): mildly insane : touched c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed"
That is why people call you folks that don't ya know. Read the definition and tell me that doesn't just fit you. Yup not quite normal.
No little girl when you say women ask you out---that's bragging especially for one like you.
No,heteros are there. You know I'm right. It's why you won't look it over. This I expected. Take those above definitions and see how well it describes the religious. Fits exactly.
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17591 Apr 8, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you had any formal schoolng?
Like you butcher the English language really badly.
I guess lack of education is probably what got you into this same sex crap huh. You do know what a woman is right?
For one claiming to be well educated, you have a lot to learn. You butcher humanity. Zero comprehension. Anyone can learn from books. Real life experience is the best. That you have'nt attained. Reading your posts confirms this.
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17592 Apr 8, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you had any formal schoolng?
Like you butcher the English language really badly.
I guess lack of education is probably what got you into this same sex crap huh. You do know what a woman is right?
Had sex with a female several times. What you need to do. All that pent up testosterone has you going crazy. There are inflatable females you know? Seen them in those hetero adult stores.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17593 Apr 8, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry you have to insist upon your opinions in order to preserve your preferences for discrimination and segregation.
Jesus, throughout the body of His Teaching and Ministry, clearly defended those who did not fit in, were ostracised, were regarded as social outcasts, were not perfect, rich, healthy and conventionally blessed. He forgave their deficiencies and established the outcast individuals in the flock that He regarded as His own.
For a person who is so aware of being physically different from the supposed ideal, you are strangely unsympathetic to others who also must see the world of humanity and established convention through eyes of isolation. Such souls are often sidelined, leading their life through a heart of lonely separation, sometimes inexplicably forced - no, often forced - away from those whom they would love the most: their own family.
You have conveniently mischaracterized the Teaching by taking it out of context. The very substance of His clarification is immediately followed in the scriptural text with His cryptic statement of conditional acceptance. What is more is that He then follows his qualification with another statement regarding eunuchs - which statement, at first look, seemingly has absolutely nothing to do with [your insistence that] the conversation around the human pair-bond that is seen as the sacrament of "Marriage."
He does this specifically to show that there must be accommodation even when it is obvious that the iconic and ideal is to be understood to be the first motivation.
Same sex couples are not condemned. In accordance with the Teachings of Christ Jesus, We will make provisions for them and encourage them to find a very necessary and deserved acceptance in the presence and the openly conscious awareness that is to be Blessed in the Holy Spirit.
We will bring and welcome them into the established community of the Body of Christ. We will give them recognition, encouraging them to join in and to participate in every honest and above-board activity and to develop their lives in dignity with righteous contribution to the cause of their fellow humanity.
That is what we will do.
Rev. Ken
Calling context my 'opinion' and resorting to ad homoan attacks is not a defense.

Jesus forgave sin, healed the broken and led them in living godly lives. The reason you drop Scripture and revert to religious talk is because you have no Scripture to back you up.

Like Jesus with the Samaritan woman at the well, I start with reality. She was willing to accept it, and was changed. You are not, that is why you have nothing divine or eternal to offer.

What is overt in the passage is this; God's design for marriage is a man and a woman. The alternative is to live as a eunuch.

You will twirl it anyway you want, but it won't be what God says. That is why you are a rev.

Smile.
really

AOL

#17594 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Calling context my 'opinion' and resorting to ad homoan attacks is not a defense.
Jesus forgave sin, healed the broken and led them in living godly lives. The reason you drop Scripture and revert to religious talk is because you have no Scripture to back you up.
Like Jesus with the Samaritan woman at the well, I start with reality. She was willing to accept it, and was changed. You are not, that is why you have nothing divine or eternal to offer.
What is overt in the passage is this; God's design for marriage is a man and a woman. The alternative is to live as a eunuch.
You will twirl it anyway you want, but it won't be what God says. That is why you are a rev.

Smile.
Strange, I see no attack in his post to you whatsoever...you are the one with all the attacks and twirl. Which of you is the more Godly man? Hint, it isn't you KiMare!
Jacob

Dade City, FL

#17595 Apr 8, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange, I see no attack in his post to you whatsoever...you are the one with all the attacks and twirl. Which of you is the more Godly man? Hint, it isn't you KiMare!
Do you have to have an attack in your post?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17596 Apr 8, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange, I see no attack in his post to you whatsoever...you are the one with all the attacks and twirl. Which of you is the more Godly man? Hint, it isn't you KiMare!
Kuntmary is merely trolling. It passes time in the home until the gay orderly can come down and change Kuntmary's diaper.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17597 Apr 9, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange, I see no attack in his post to you whatsoever...you are the one with all the attacks and twirl. Which of you is the more Godly man? Hint, it isn't you KiMare!
"preserve your preferences for discrimination and segregation."

Seems like you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other...

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17598 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
"preserve your preferences for discrimination and segregation."
Seems like you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other...
Smile.
that's an attack? seriously, you say far worse about others in nearly every post.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#17599 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
"preserve your preferences for discrimination and segregation."
Seems like you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other...
Smile.
Yes. Your preferences for discrimination and segregation.

Going back through a few of your recent posts:

#17192 "Sodomite was replaced because homosexual was an accurate update of language."

#17193 "The sin of Sodom sure looks like 'gay''compassion'..."

#17207 "Just a thought, maybe you are the problem?"

#17211 "I didn't say it wasn't. I just noted that that failure looked like a herd of gays looking after their own 'needs'."

#17249 "This from lying twits who deny reality."

#17272 "There is no culture of any length like the Jewish culture."

#17295 "You need to ask yourself why it is impossible for you to never successfully counter that inner sense of sexual brokenness."

#17308 "By the way, ss couples cannot "have their own children". Ever."

#17360 "I see where the problem is for you..."

#17361 "I suspect your goal is to excuse ss couples. As I have noted before, I find it criminally abhorrent to deliberately birth a child without a father and mother."

#17438 "Gay twirl BS lies. Again."

#17498 "Wow, what a limp wristed gay twirl hissy fit!"

#17514 "There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage."

Let everyone see how your own words show your preferences for prejudice, discrimination and segregation.

Rev. Ken
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17600 Apr 9, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> You have a frw misspellings. Go over your posts. I did'nt point them out. So much for your schooling. SO WHAT? Even publishings make mistakes. Next misspelling you do I'll point it out.
No I wasn't talking about spelling so much as structure.
misspellings-publishings---WTH

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#17603 Apr 9, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Your preferences for discrimination and segregation.
Going back through a few of your recent posts:
#17192 "Sodomite was replaced because homosexual was an accurate update of language."
#17193 "The sin of Sodom sure looks like 'gay''compassion'..."
#17207 "Just a thought, maybe you are the problem?"
#17211 "I didn't say it wasn't. I just noted that that failure looked like a herd of gays looking after their own 'needs'."
#17249 "This from lying twits who deny reality."
#17272 "There is no culture of any length like the Jewish culture."
#17295 "You need to ask yourself why it is impossible for you to never successfully counter that inner sense of sexual brokenness."
#17308 "By the way, ss couples cannot "have their own children". Ever."
#17360 "I see where the problem is for you..."
#17361 "I suspect your goal is to excuse ss couples. As I have noted before, I find it criminally abhorrent to deliberately birth a child without a father and mother."
#17438 "Gay twirl BS lies. Again."
#17498 "Wow, what a limp wristed gay twirl hissy fit!"
#17514 "There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage."
Let everyone see how your own words show your preferences for prejudice, discrimination and segregation.
Rev. Ken
Oh RevKen, now you've done it and busted Kimare with his own words. Of course, the dethroned pastor knows exactly what he's said. Trolls chose their words very carefully and deliberately.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17604 Apr 9, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Your preferences for discrimination and segregation.
Going back through a few of your recent posts:
#17192 "Sodomite was replaced because homosexual was an accurate update of language."
#17193 "The sin of Sodom sure looks like 'gay''compassion'..."
#17207 "Just a thought, maybe you are the problem?"
#17211 "I didn't say it wasn't. I just noted that that failure looked like a herd of gays looking after their own 'needs'."
#17249 "This from lying twits who deny reality."
#17272 "There is no culture of any length like the Jewish culture."
#17295 "You need to ask yourself why it is impossible for you to never successfully counter that inner sense of sexual brokenness."
#17308 "By the way, ss couples cannot "have their own children". Ever."
#17360 "I see where the problem is for you..."
#17361 "I suspect your goal is to excuse ss couples. As I have noted before, I find it criminally abhorrent to deliberately birth a child without a father and mother."
#17438 "Gay twirl BS lies. Again."
#17498 "Wow, what a limp wristed gay twirl hissy fit!"
#17514 "There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage."
Let everyone see how your own words show your preferences for prejudice, discrimination and segregation.
Rev. Ken
Seems to me you've only shown your denial.

Those are all factual statements rev. You don't like them, so you want to falsely label them prejudice, discrimination and segregation.

I also notice that you shifted the subject. Exposed your gay twirl by simply speaking overt truth about marriage and homosexuality.

Smile.
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17605 Apr 9, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
No I wasn't talking about spelling so much as structure.
misspellings-publishings---WTH
The structure of you words no better than mine,as I read them nor anyone elses' writing style. Some have more flair. RevKen has sentences of best structure here. What matters more on forums are relaying messages, not novels.(
Vick Torre

Newark, NJ

#17606 Apr 9, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh RevKen, now you've done it and busted Kimare with his own words. Of course, the dethroned pastor knows exactly what he's said. Trolls chose their words very carefully and deliberately.
Same goes for Shadow. Without a "shadow" of a doubt.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#17607 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me you've only shown your denial.
Those are all factual statements rev. You don't like them, so you want to falsely label them prejudice, discrimination and segregation.
I also notice that you shifted the subject. Exposed your gay twirl by simply speaking overt truth about marriage and homosexuality.
Smile.
That's cause for a belly laugh and frothy downing from a round of cold brew-filled steins! I am the Friar. I'll pour.

You are in denial, denying your own words, denying your own prejudice.

Of course you regard these statements as factual! That is why you made them in the first place.

Brother, you display the quintessence of religious, institutionally-driven, bigoted hypocrisy.

You are the guy, in this conversation, who Jesus spoke about, saying, "First remove the log from your own eye, before attempting to remove the splinter from your brother's eye."

" ... Shifted the subject?"

Nope. The subject IS homosexuality and the bible. That IS the problem you are wrestling with and the Holy Spirit is breaking your leg.

No "gay twirl" here, bud. Just the facts.

Rev. Ken

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#17608 Apr 10, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
That's cause for a belly laugh and frothy downing from a round of cold brew-filled steins! I am the Friar. I'll pour.
You are in denial, denying your own words, denying your own prejudice.
Of course you regard these statements as factual! That is why you made them in the first place.
Brother, you display the quintessence of religious, institutionally-driven, bigoted hypocrisy.
You are the guy, in this conversation, who Jesus spoke about, saying, "First remove the log from your own eye, before attempting to remove the splinter from your brother's eye."
" ... Shifted the subject?"
Nope. The subject IS homosexuality and the bible. That IS the problem you are wrestling with and the Holy Spirit is breaking your leg.
No "gay twirl" here, bud. Just the facts.
Rev. Ken
Oh, THAT's the 'spirit' you've been talking about. Makes sense now.

You simply have clearly biased opinion. Not only because you are obviously on the (losing) side of liberal doctrine, but because you fail to make your assertions in context with reasoning.

I didn't say you shifted from the subject of homosexuality. You know that. I wouldn't call that tactic the 'holy' spirit rev...

Smile.

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