Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36053 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.smh.com.au.

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#17395 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
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Hate to break your hateful thought train but we were talking about queers and yes they are filthy and disgusting animals.
2-3% is more like it but your gonna count all you can.
Do you think Jesus would approve this comment?
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17396 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> Talk aboit hateful- you post the hateful contents,not I,as noted in a previous post by another poster noticing I don't hate. Only respond to it likewise. Not aware of what you wrote? The esyimate is 10%,not by my headcounting. National polls give that estimate. You're just trying to reduce those counts to make it look like a small precentage don't matter. An old saying-" even if ONLY one persons rights ignored,than we all are subject to having our rights ignored.
Ahhh yes the old talking points.
Yes if one person's rights are denyed..........
Problem is what you people want.
If a man wants to join the Girl Scouts he is denied right. If a woman wants to join the Boy Scouts she is denied. Ohhh No
They don't qualify being the wrong sex. Now you same sexers want to erase those lines of decency and then rub it in everyone's face.
Marriage =1 man and 1 woman period,
you can't marry your dog not your cat not the donkey either.
So now animal "lovers" rights are being taken away right.
How about the 40 year old man who wants to have sex with a 10 year old, are his rights being denyed as well in your mind.
It is called morality because as humans we have the ability to see right from wrong. It is called a thinking mind.
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17397 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> Talk aboit hateful- you post the hateful contents,not I,as noted in a previous post by another poster noticing I don't hate. Only respond to it likewise. Not aware of what you wrote? The esyimate is 10%,not by my headcounting. National polls give that estimate. You're just trying to reduce those counts to make it look like a small precentage don't matter. An old saying-" even if ONLY one persons rights ignored,than we all are subject to having our rights ignored.
Really..........
Gay Lobby Admits Overestimate

According to a piece on the Traditional Values Coalition's website, the gay lobby was forced to admit their overestimated claims of the 10% number.

This admission took place in a Friend of the Court brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court on March 26, 2003 in the Lawrence v. Texas, known as the Texas sodomy case. In this case, homosexuals are trying to have the Texas law against sodomy declared unconstitutional by the Court.

In footnote 42 on page 16 of this legal brief, 31 homosexual and pro-homosexual groups admitted the following: "The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. See Laumann, et al, The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994). This amounts to nearly 4 million openly gay men and 2 million women who identify as lesbian."

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#17398 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh yes the old talking points.
Yes if one person's rights are denyed..........
Problem is what you people want.
If a man wants to join the Girl Scouts he is denied right. If a woman wants to join the Boy Scouts she is denied. Ohhh No
They don't qualify being the wrong sex. Now you same sexers want to erase those lines of decency and then rub it in everyone's face.
Marriage =1 man and 1 woman period,
you can't marry your dog not your cat not the donkey either.
So now animal "lovers" rights are being taken away right.
How about the 40 year old man who wants to have sex with a 10 year old, are his rights being denyed as well in your mind.
It is called morality because as humans we have the ability to see right from wrong. It is called a thinking mind.
You don't have talking points? LMAO

Stereotype? Not very bright.

False inference. Decency and gender are unrelated.

What is consent? Looks like you have no idea.

Morality? You don't know what it is.

BIG FAIL

NEXT
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17399 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have talking points? LMAO
Stereotype? Not very bright.
False inference. Decency and gender are unrelated.
What is consent? Looks like you have no idea.
Morality? You don't know what it is.
BIG FAIL
NEXT
Wasn't posting to you.
What's wrong no one will post to you? Wonder why?
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17400 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have talking points? LMAO
Stereotype? Not very bright.
False inference. Decency and gender are unrelated.
What is consent? Looks like you have no idea.
Morality? You don't know what it is.
BIG FAIL
NEXT
Instead of attacking me attack this. Just can't adress my post can you because your buddy LIED. You all can say there is 50-60% queers and it still doesn't make it so. Do you always speak in sound bites?
Gay Lobby Admits Overestimate

According to a piece on the Traditional Values Coalition's website, the gay lobby was forced to admit their overestimated claims of the 10% number

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#17401 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't posting to you.
What's wrong no one will post to you? Wonder why?
This is an open forum.

NEXT
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17402 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of attacking me attack this. Just can't adress my post can you because your buddy LIED. You all can say there is 50-60% queers and it still doesn't make it so. Do you always speak in sound bites?
Gay Lobby Admits Overestimate
According to a piece on the Traditional Values Coalition's website, the gay lobby was forced to admit their overestimated claims of the 10% number
You lie. Can't handle the truth obviously. You have difficulty being civil.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17403 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh yes the old talking points.
Yes if one person's rights are denyed..........
Problem is what you people want.
If a man wants to join the Girl Scouts he is denied right. If a woman wants to join the Boy Scouts she is denied. Ohhh No
They don't qualify being the wrong sex. Now you same sexers want to erase those lines of decency and then rub it in everyone's face.
Marriage =1 man and 1 woman period,
you can't marry your dog not your cat not the donkey either.
So now animal "lovers" rights are being taken away right.
How about the 40 year old man who wants to have sex with a 10 year old, are his rights being denyed as well in your mind.
It is called morality because as humans we have the ability to see right from wrong. It is called a thinking mind.
what we want is equality. Nothing more. Whatever heteros are allowed, then we should be allowed. As for girlscouts-boyscouts,whatever heteros can legally do then the same for us. That way no lines of decency erased. Sodomy. If you were sexually experienced,you'd know heteros perform sodomy. The last U.S. census shows more than your 2-3 % claiming as gay. Consenting adults applies to all. Go to the human sexuality forum and witness the same sex desires as gays. I think about that when I read about those hetero desires and compare to gays. Lots of flith there. To mention gay sex acts as worse is wrong. You still display that "do as I say,not as I do" mentality. Where's their morality of right/wrong? The stuff I read that heteros want. OH MY!
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17404 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an open forum.
NEXT
And some think an invitation is required. I guess some are afraid of their own -shadow. Frightened of the light of truth. Hi wastewater! Thanks for speaking up on my behalf.
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17405 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> You lie. Can't handle the truth obviously. You have difficulty being civil.
Ahhh now why would you say that?
Just because I busted you on your 10% lie is no reason to act like that LIAR.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17406 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think Jesus would approve this comment?
I hear the teachings call all of us filthy. Why a saviour was sent. That memo ignored by shadow. Thinking he is "holier tha thou"! LOL!!
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17407 Apr 1, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have talking points? LMAO
Stereotype? Not very bright.
False inference. Decency and gender are unrelated.
What is consent? Looks like you have no idea.
Morality? You don't know what it is.
BIG FAIL
NEXT
I always doubt sincerity of anyone that can't debate without hateful words. Because only weak arguments need to stoop to those lowblows.

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#17408 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> And some think an invitation is required. I guess some are afraid of their own -shadow. Frightened of the light of truth. Hi wastewater! Thanks for speaking up on my behalf.
Indeed. U R welcome friend.
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#17409 Apr 1, 2013
Vick Torre wrote:
<quoted text> what we want is equality. Nothing more. Whatever heteros are allowed, then we should be allowed. As for girlscouts-boyscouts,whatever heteros can legally do then the same for us. That way no lines of decency erased. Sodomy. If you were sexually experienced,you'd know heteros perform sodomy. The last U.S. census shows more than your 2-3 % claiming as gay. Consenting adults applies to all. Go to the human sexuality forum and witness the same sex desires as gays. I think about that when I read about those hetero desires and compare to gays. Lots of flith there. To mention gay sex acts as worse is wrong. You still display that "do as I say,not as I do" mentality. Where's their morality of right/wrong? The stuff I read that heteros want. OH MY!
Discounting what some do, do you think sodomy is OK?
Want to explain to all your friends how you make love and what sodomy is.
Yeah real classy aren't you.
2-3% is the truth and you know it LIAR.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17410 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
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Ahhh now why would you say that?
Just because I busted you on your 10% lie is no reason to act like that LIAR.
Not at all. As I said before-no one has a right to deny the rights to another. Regardless how small the percentage. No lie yo "bust". About taking away an individuals right Wrong and that is a protection guarenteed by the laws of this land. And you want yo take it away.

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#17411 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Discounting what some do, do you think sodomy is OK?
Want to explain to all your friends how you make love and what sodomy is.
Yeah real classy aren't you.
2-3% is the truth and you know it LIAR.
What is your interest in anal sex? Did you know that the larger percentage of people practicing anal sex are heterosexual?
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#17412 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh now why would you say that?
Just because I busted you on your 10% lie is no reason to act like that LIAR.
The bible is a lie. Not saying it out of hate. Bible itself presents the lies. Just need to be impartial before reading it. Poorly written as a story. Genious at gabrication. All there in that bible. I wish and like the concept of an eternal life in a great paradise. Who would'nt? And IF the written words made sense,I'd be living by it. I watched some of "The Ten Commandments" Sunday. 1956 version. I use to believe all of it. As I grew and go through life and learn from life,began to see problems with scripture. Began to ask myself questions to what I was taught by catholic teachings. You shoild be more concerned in those words of the bible. Makes god out as a mentally challenged being. I find that worrisome to be helpless to a mentally ill being. Not my words in that book. Reading those words is of a troubled being. Could'nt br of a supreme being,therefore the bible us a book of lies printed by controlling people whose only way to rule a large populace is to fabricate a being no one could see,hear or battle with. Scare them all into submission. Obviously it worked. Today it's called brainwashing. Those not independant still neef to have that guidance. You for one.

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#17413 Apr 1, 2013
SHADOW wrote:
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Instead of attacking me attack this. Just can't adress my post can you because your buddy LIED. You all can say there is 50-60% queers and it still doesn't make it so. Do you always speak in sound bites?
Gay Lobby Admits Overestimate
According to a piece on the Traditional Values Coalition's website, the gay lobby was forced to admit their overestimated claims of the 10% number
I simply address the issues you brought up. How is that an attack?

I address you issues. Do you always bring up a series of unrelated topics?

What is the Gay Lobby?

I don't give a rat's ass about the Traditional Values Coalition.

FYI, the 10% represents the LGBT community which is actually larger because many people live in denial.

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#17414 Apr 1, 2013
The break down is roughly 4% of each LGB. The T part is somewhat unknowable but a modest estimate would be around 0.5% of the total population with some kind of a gender issue. Do the math, this is higher than 10% correct?

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