Homosexuality and the Bible

Homosexuality and the Bible

There are 36053 comments on the www.smh.com.au story from Aug 15, 2011, titled Homosexuality and the Bible. In it, www.smh.com.au reports that:

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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#13323 Nov 20, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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I don't know.
Is there anyone qualified to run an inane asylum?
Perhaps David is the most qualified. His posts are so inane.
If he is very angry he might have no friends, and he might have a lot of time to work?:-):-):-)

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#13324 Nov 20, 2012
One of the fruits of the Spirit is joy. Can't see that too much in Caleb?:-)

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#13326 Nov 20, 2012
I have no problems with the opinion of Caleb. I am okay with that. He just seems to be far away from the source of joy.

And Yeshua is the source of joy, isn't he?
Polly Parrot

Santa Cruz, CA

#13328 Nov 20, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You, of course, are the liar. You have failed to post *ANYTHING* to support your lies about my identity.
Liar, are you claiming that "Wastewater" is your true identity? I suppose really it is, since that is what you consider yourself because of your choice of living in open rebellion against God's many commands against your homosexual lifestyle choice.
The Bible repeatedly condemns your homosexual lifestyle choice. You have failed to post anything rational to dispute this irrefutable *FACT*.
SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK

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#13329 Nov 20, 2012
Manmanman wrote:
One of the fruits of the Spirit is joy. Can't see that too much in Caleb?:-)
David is NOT what I would call a man of God or of joy. There is no light in the silly little man from Pekin.

He is one very good reason to avoid organized religion.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#13330 Nov 20, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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David is NOT what I would call a man of God or of joy. There is no light in the silly little man from Pekin.
He is one very good reason to avoid organized religion.
I'll bet he drives more people away than he attracts with all his Bible thumping venom. I agree. He can't be a man of God. He is obviously working for that old Devil.

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#13331 Nov 20, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You, of course, are the liar. You have failed to post *ANYTHING* to support your lies about my identity.
Liar, are you claiming that "Wastewater" is your true identity? I suppose really it is, since that is what you consider yourself because of your choice of living in open rebellion against God's many commands against your homosexual lifestyle choice.
The Bible repeatedly condemns your homosexual lifestyle choice. You have failed to post anything rational to dispute this irrefutable *FACT*.
Defensive much David?

We all know who you are. You can run but you cannot hide sick little man.
DMAN

Aurora, CO

#13332 Nov 21, 2012
Robsan5 wrote:
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Still Weak. Still Lame. Still Just. Plain. Really Stupid. As usual.
Roberta/Robsana (just for "your" homoerotic dreams, OCD/ADHD boy!)
Still a Menstrual sandwich i see...... YEP...... try not to have too many hot flashes and keep that duct tape around so you will not leak weaksand.....(hahahahahaha) And still the STUPID VALVE which is miss sand keeps spinning... Keep trying fagsand....:)

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#13333 Nov 21, 2012
DMAN wrote:
<quoted text> Still a Menstrual sandwich i see...... YEP...... try not to have too many hot flashes and keep that duct tape around so you will not leak weaksand.....(hahahahahaha) And still the STUPID VALVE which is miss sand keeps spinning... Keep trying fagsand....:)
You are really "nice"?:-)

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#13335 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You, of course, are the liar. You have failed to post *ANYTHING* to support your lies about my identity.
Liar, are you claiming that "Wastewater" is your true identity? I suppose really it is, since that is what you consider yourself because of your choice of living in open rebellion against God's many commands against your homosexual lifestyle choice.
The Bible repeatedly condemns your homosexual lifestyle choice. You have failed to post anything rational to dispute this irrefutable *FACT*.
The fact is, David, you are a liar.

Why would ANYONE listen to a known liar?

Be honest and God might forgive you.....
Robsan5

United States

#13337 Nov 21, 2012
DMAN wrote:
<quoted text> Still a Menstrual sandwich i see...... YEP...... try not to have too many hot flashes and keep that duct tape around so you will not leak weaksand.....(hahahahahaha) And still the STUPID VALVE which is miss sand keeps spinning... Keep trying fagsand....:)
"...And still the STUPID VALVE which is miss sand keeps spinning..."?!? When you figure out this post "meens", could you let us know? Exactly how stupid are you, FAKER?

We know you are Weak, Lame and Just Plain really Stupid. Please "kepp" posting.

Roberta/Robsana (just for "your" homoerotic fantasy, OCD/ADHD boy!)

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#13338 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>All you can do is lie about me and about my identity.
You cannot refute the truth I post.
The Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. This fact is supported by EVERY ancient text, Bible translation, and Judeo-Christian tradition:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."\
No one has made a logical case against this irrefutable FACT.
YOU are the liar David and you know it.

You shall not lie is one of the big 10.

How's your wife and kids?

I'm only trying to save you from the eternal damnation you so freely warn others about.

Lying is a sin.....

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#13340 Nov 21, 2012
Not for Caleb and RevKen:

Caleb seems to be angry. He claims to be a man of God, but I can't see where in Scripture it says that anger is a fruit of the Spirit ;)

And RevKen seems to be insulting, have a "from above"-attitude and being arrogant. He also claims to be a man of God. Where in Scripture does it say that such qualities belong to those who fear the Lord?

Somebody find it?

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#13341 Nov 21, 2012
If somebody should be worth listening to they should have a nice attitude first. If they have that, then they might be worth listening to?

Or what do you say guys?

Why should I listen to somebody that have a lot of problems if I want to have a good life, an abundant life?

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#13342 Nov 21, 2012
If I want to learn something it would be natural to go to those who manage it?

If people are very angry, and I don't want to be angry, I might hang with some others?:)

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#13343 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think lying about my identity covers up the fact that you can't document *ANY* lie on my part?
You cannot cite *ANY* ancient text, Bible translation, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's many commands against all homosexual behavior, found in both Testaments.
Jesus tap dancing christ on a pogo stick, man. Grow a pair, already.

Do you realize that 98% of your post START by calling someone a liar, or stating that they are lying?

Kindly remember, every time you're point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you.

As an aside, have your ever tried masturbating with a finger in your butt? You might give it a try.:-)
Mona Lott

West New York, NJ

#13345 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think lying about my identity covers up the fact that you can't document *ANY* lie on my part?
You cannot cite *ANY* ancient text, Bible translation, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in question the Bible's many commands against all homosexual behavior, found in both Testaments.
Still repeating that lie about the Jews, eh?
DMAN

Aurora, CO

#13346 Nov 21, 2012
Manmanman wrote:
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You are really "nice"?:-)
Well being nice is a word meaning only.. It never has been explained what kind of nice it can be. Therefore the term remains only just that.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#13350 Nov 21, 2012
"If Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality, it is not recorded in the Bible, even mistranslated. He did, however, speak extensively on God's unconditional love. Yet instead of dwelling on biblical love, Christians have historically been more concerned with obscure passages of Levitical cleanliness codes and Paul's misunderstood comments in Romans. Instead of focusing on the incredible injustice and hatred demonstrated by Christians and others, tying to deny homosexuals even basic civil rights, people appear more concerned with the specific homosexual acts between consenting adults who are naturally have a homosexual orientation. As James B. Nelson notes, the Bible more clearly advocates a "love ethic" rather than a "sex ethic."

I Cor 6:9, no way refers to homosexuality. The original Greek word often quoted as sexual immorality, Paul used was "porneia" which means "a harlot for hire". In Corinth in the temples of Venus, the principal deity of Corinth, where Christians went to worship, a thousand public prostitutes were kept at public expense to glorify and act as surrogates for the fertility Gods. This sex with the pagan Gods is what Paul was talking about - fornication is an admitted mistranslation and has nothing to do with gays or singles sex. This rendering reflected the bias of the translators rather than an accurate translation of Paul's words to a culture of 2000 years ago worshipping pagan sex gods.

Romans 1:26-27 mentions homosexual acts performed by people who are clearly described as heterosexual. The men in the NT patriarchal culture exerted dominance not only over women, but over younger males as well. The nature of homosexual acts in the Bible are so very different from what we know as homosexuality today that the passages have no application to today's homosexuality. Such practices as in NT times simply no longer exist. Alleged references to homosexuality in I Corinthians and I Timothy are the inventions of anti-gay translators. They are not in the original Greek texts." (Rev.Dr. Mel White) The word "homosexual" wasn't even invented until 1869. When you see it in the bible, you know it is a modern mistranslation and misinterpretation of the original texts.

"What the Bible forbids is acts of lust, rape, idolatry, violation of religious purity obligations, or pederasty, but no condemnation of homosexuality in relationships of mutual respect and love. "On the other hand, the Bible pointedly celebrates instances of same-sex emotional intimacy, a fact often overlooked by fearful homophobic readers." James B. Nelson, Professor of Christian Ethics, United Theological Seminary

Yet Jesus told us:

John 13:34: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

John 15:17: This is my command: Love each other.

Matthew 7:1: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

Luke 6:37: "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Matthew 7:12: So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Meanwhile, the irrational prejudice promoted by some who claim to be Christians, continues to cause needless suffering and death, here and around the world.
Mona Lott

West New York, NJ

#13352 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Centuries of Jewish scholarship and practice support the Bible's repeated commands against homosexual acts. "Progressive" Judaism is a departure from the historic faith:
http://judaism.about.com/od/homosexualityandj...
Damn... I guess we should go back to animal sacrifice and stoning adulterers to death.

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