So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Grou...

So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

There are 18008 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Aug 17, 2012, titled So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?. In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

What makes hate, well, hate? Given that today is something of a quiet news day, it may be nice to give ourselves a breather and think about some things.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at lezgetreal.com.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19090 Jan 22, 2013
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
Marriage is a union of two individuals who are romantically connected to form a family unit. Children are not required and do not have to be created by the two individuals if they are included.
If you can't understand why ss marriages ARE marriages, you don't have any place in defining them or denying their equality. It just means you are ignorant to their validity and, therefore, have no place determining their value and worth.
You might as well deny evolution, that's how intelligent you sound about this topic. <insert eye roll here>
<quoted text>
How does a romantic relationship equate to a "friendship"?? You keep inserting that word in there, attempting to devalue the relationship, but it's not an accurate description. Ideally, the romantic couple *are* friends, but each couple defines the characteristics of their marriage in their own way. That means that you are not "entitled" to define someone else's relationship.
There are many different types of family units: married without children, nuclear, blended, extended, etc. A married couple without children is *still* a family. You act like I discourage procreation, when what I actually said was that couples are not REQUIRED to procreate. There is no box on the marriage application that asks about intentions to procreate.
I do not accept your "cross cultural constraint" nonsense to be an accurate definition of all marriages, so my responses do not need to satisfy you. I don't "strive" to conform to your reality because it is an alternate one.
1. As Obama noted in his speech, the dumbed down description is 'love' or 'committed'. Those words describe many types of friendships. They do not define marriage. It is a clear and indisputable fact that the basic essence of marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Unique among every other relationship in existence, and in fact, the natural and best birthplace of every other relationship.

2. You have no right to redefine other people's relationships. As SCOTUS notes several times, marriage is an essential relationship to society.

3. There is one natural family, simply because we have just one biological father and mother. All others are default families, and are so noted.

4. Your assertion that a couple should be required to produce children to be called marriage is no different than demanding that an apple tree be required to produce apples to be called an apple tree.

5. I don't care if you don't care about the essence of marriage. Your opinion, or mine does not change reality; Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Nothing you said addresses that fact.

Smile.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#19091 Jan 22, 2013
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
<quoted text>
She's *pushing* him to take more action. She WANTS him to do more so she can feel more persecuted. She tells him things like "THEY LAUGHED AT YOU" and lies about what his reasons were for contacting them because she KNOWS he will feel compelled to defend himself.
.. this is exactly why I refuse to defend myself against her evil lies and innuendos ..

.. when Boooots justifies or defends his actions, he's playing into Patricia's hand. He's being manipulated by a pro and my heart goes out to him. He doesn't deserve such treatment and, if possible, Patricia would love to push him to his limit, send him back into treatment. Then she could gloat ..
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
<quoted text>The more he contacts the authorities, the more drama she gets to feed on and the more justified she feels to invade *his* private life. She is ABSOLUTELY a sociopath.
.. yes, Patricia is a sociopath. She is void of empathy and enjoys hurting people. She'd welcome the firing of Amy from her job so she could point a finger at Booots and say, "You crazzzzy person - you got someone fired." ..

.. everyone must understand this woman is seriously deranged ..

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#19092 Jan 22, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
<quoted text>
But may of his followers have cured millions of their addiction to breathing.
Like the Rev. Jim Jones Jonestown Massacre.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#19093 Jan 22, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
<quoted text>
That only leaves one alternative. Ridicule.
Even though she might not feel it, it is certain that many are laughing at her.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#19094 Jan 22, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
<quoted text>
That's her delusion of self-importance.
Well, she DOES have a rather large ego.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#19095 Jan 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. if Booots pursued it, Amy would be fired for releasing the information. Does Patricia care? Hell no. She'll ride that pony until it keels over. She's void of empathy or she would drop the matter before Booots does take action ..
.. Patricia is a sociopath ..
And quite obviously so.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#19096 Jan 22, 2013
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
Her stupidity is sometimes the funniest moment in my day.
I sometimes feel ashamed for taking advantage of her, but the payoff is just SO FREAKING HILARIOUS! The devil's boss (god, with or without a big "G") makes me do it. I can't help myself!
I've fractured 4 of my ribs because of her!
I love her line on how she believes atheists don't believe in god IN SPITE of the god they DON'T believe in.

Logic?
Logic is non-existent in Patty's dictionary.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#19097 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, she DOES have a rather large ego.
.. that's one of the major signs (#5) of a sociopath:

1. Lack of Empathy.
2. Pathological Lying
3. Glibness and Superficial Charm
4. Manipulative and Conning
5. Grandiose Sense of Self
6. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
7. Need for Stimulation
8. Impulsive Nature
9. Lack of Friends
10. No Personal Boundaries
WBC 4-Ever

United States

#19098 Jan 22, 2013
The mighty and glorious Westboro Baptist Church, led by the incomparable Reverend Fred Phelps has once again struck a blow against the donkey bonkers who are ruining this land. WBC will continue to be a beacon of sanity in a nation of gaytards. Thank you Reverend Phelps for striking a blow against the asspackers of the USA.

Since: Jul 12

Daytona Beach, FL

#19099 Jan 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. As Obama noted in his speech, the dumbed down description is 'love' or 'committed'. Those words describe many types of friendships. They do not define marriage. It is a clear and indisputable fact that the basic essence of marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Unique among every other relationship in existence, and in fact, the natural and best birthplace of every other relationship.
2. You have no right to redefine other people's relationships. As SCOTUS notes several times, marriage is an essential relationship to society.
3. There is one natural family, simply because we have just one biological father and mother. All others are default families, and are so noted.
4. Your assertion that a couple should be required to produce children to be called marriage is no different than demanding that an apple tree be required to produce apples to be called an apple tree.
5. I don't care if you don't care about the essence of marriage. Your opinion, or mine does not change reality; Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Nothing you said addresses that fact.
Smile.
I decided to Google your favorite, little "definition" of marriage and found that you've been copying and pasting the same convoluted nonsense on other threads. You've been cheating on us! How many other bridges are you trolling under that we don't know about?

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TBQ0DHC...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/palos-hills-i...

Getting back to responding to your post...
1. Marriage does not need to have a complex definition for the purposes of the government. Each couple has the right to define their relationship in their own unique way. It is private. No one needs to publicly declare the "terms" of their marriage, especially to you.

If marriage is "culturally constrained" and "evolutionary," it seems only logical that if our culture accepts ssm as a norm (our government makes it legal), then we have evolved. You can grunt like a neanderthal all you want, but our society *will* evolve without you.

2. How am I redefining anything? Have I tried to "redefine" your marriage? No, of course not.

Marriage is essential? Which kind?...under God or by the government? Did Adam and Eve have a marriage ceremony? Who walked Eve down the aisle? The fact is, marriage has not always been about particular defining terms that you favor so much. It was SIMPLY a committed, romantic union of two consenting humans. Heck, there have been oodles of marriages that were arranged and the couple DID NOT consent. Talk about constrained. So, you see, YOU cannot define marriage for other people; you can only define it for yourself and your wife.

3. You have no control over what kind of relationships families make up, so why do you try to devalue them?

4. I never asserted that a couple should be required to produce children. That's what YOU suggest with your arguments.

5. Your "definition" of marriage is not reality. Have you taken your meds today? I heard "Haldol" is an oldie but a goodie.

Since: Jul 12

Daytona Beach, FL

#19100 Jan 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. that's one of the major signs (#5) of a sociopath:
1. Lack of Empathy.
2. Pathological Lying
3. Glibness and Superficial Charm
4. Manipulative and Conning
5. Grandiose Sense of Self
6. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
7. Need for Stimulation
8. Impulsive Nature
9. Lack of Friends
10. No Personal Boundaries
You might as well stamp these on her forehead as a warning to other unsuspecting citizens. They are so dead-on, it's scary.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19101 Jan 22, 2013
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
And you probably noticed all those different ID's were really all "one in the same" person - Miss Patty H. Itself.
I went back to the beginning of the Russell Springs thread when she was Yellodog and Pattiecake, and the 'Prove there's a god' thread. That's where it all came from.

It was "hallarious" to watch her answer herself in defense of Patty, just like she's doing now.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19102 Jan 22, 2013
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
Bounced a few times too many on her pappy's knee, she was!
Is that what he called it?

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19103 Jan 22, 2013
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
My gardener has nothing to do with this, so kindly leave him out, OK?
(He pronounces his name Hey Zeus. He has a couple of helpers, both named JOSE. I call them Hose A and Hose B in order to avoid confusion.)
Just proves that Zeus is the true god. It was a case of mistaken identity.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#19104 Jan 22, 2013
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
That was precisely the case with my first "parents-in-law", who saw fit to have their son committed to a psychiatric ward because of his homosexuality. He was out of the ward the following day, but his parents were referred to mental health counselling services, and it was THEM who, in fact, gained insight into their shortcomings.
After that initially rough beginning, I ended up with the best parents-in-law anyone could hope to have for many wonderful years, until their respective passing.
Unfortunately, my partner - their son - also passed away after 22 years together due to a massive myocardial infarction, which occurred without warning. I always knew that he and I would be together until death; neither of us could have known it would be so soon.
I have been fortunate enough to have found someone else with whom I am now spending the rest of my life. The universe has been very kind and good to me.
But yes, homophobes can benefit from psychiatric/mental health counselling.
Aside from the tragic passing of your partner that is a very good story to hear, as it is pleasing to see that some people do come around when they have learned the facts, rather than disowning their child for life, as I have heard some parents have done.

As for not expecting life to end up different than you thought it would, I can attest to similar experiences but not due to death, but one marriage breakup, a very upsetting loss of a second partner, due to her wanting another man, and some downturns in my life due to my earlier mental illnesses which ended my working career much earlier than I could ever have imagined, but having survived that, I now count it as a positive that I had 18 years more than most of "retirement" many years of which I put to good use, that I couldn't have done had I still be working.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19105 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
I love her line on how she believes atheists don't believe in god IN SPITE of the god they DON'T believe in.
Logic?
Logic is non-existent in Patty's dictionary.
It's there. It's just spelled wrong.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19106 Jan 22, 2013
WBC 4-Ever wrote:
The mighty and glorious Westboro Baptist Church, led by the incomparable Reverend Fred Phelps has once again struck a blow against the donkey bonkers who are ruining this land. WBC will continue to be a beacon of sanity in a nation of gaytards. Thank you Reverend Phelps for striking a blow against the asspackers of the USA.
Are they hiring? UIF needs a job.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#19107 Jan 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. this is exactly why I refuse to defend myself against her evil lies and innuendos ..
.. when Boooots justifies or defends his actions, he's playing into Patricia's hand. He's being manipulated by a pro and my heart goes out to him. He doesn't deserve such treatment and, if possible, Patricia would love to push him to his limit, send him back into treatment. Then she could gloat ..
<quoted text>
.. yes, Patricia is a sociopath. She is void of empathy and enjoys hurting people. She'd welcome the firing of Amy from her job so she could point a finger at Booots and say, "You crazzzzy person - you got someone fired." ..
.. everyone must understand this woman is seriously deranged ..
Don't worry, HL and PLH, I defend myself only to refute what Patty says, as I have no worries at all about what I did, as nothing I did could be construed as illegal, or destructive. The info and the reasons I gave all agencies for contacting them, were to do only with Patty's health and the possible impact that may be having on her mother's care.

If she was in Canada though, HL, I might contact our Canadian lawyer, because of all the attacks she has made on you and other gays on this site who is on the warpath against internet hate mongers, and has had some of them successfully put away or punished in some form. I think he would find Patty an interesting case. As I mentioned he also won a threatening case against a Virginia man, but a higher court threw that conviction out.

Perhaps he wouldn't bother with Patty though, as after reading her 60,000 posts he would likely see that she is unlikely to be taken seriously by anyone who might otherwise might be affected or influenced by her hate mongering. He might also recognize, as a lawyer, that any good defense attorney would get her off on a mentally incompetent plea.

I suspect, I could even represent her and be successful in getting her off on that plea, and I have no legal training or experience at all.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#19108 Jan 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry, HL and PLH, I defend myself only to refute what Patty says, as I have no worries at all about what I did, as nothing I did could be construed as illegal, or destructive. The info and the reasons I gave all agencies for contacting them, were to do only with Patty's health and the possible impact that may be having on her mother's care.
If she was in Canada though, HL, I might contact our Canadian lawyer, because of all the attacks she has made on you and other gays on this site who is on the warpath against internet hate mongers, and has had some of them successfully put away or punished in some form. I think he would find Patty an interesting case. As I mentioned he also won a threatening case against a Virginia man, but a higher court threw that conviction out.
Perhaps he wouldn't bother with Patty though, as after reading her 60,000 posts he would likely see that she is unlikely to be taken seriously by anyone who might otherwise might be affected or influenced by her hate mongering. He might also recognize, as a lawyer, that any good defense attorney would get her off on a mentally incompetent plea.
I suspect, I could even represent her and be successful in getting her off on that plea, and I have no legal training or experience at all.
I think the hate-mongers should be as loud and outrageous as possible. At least you know what they're up to.

It's like with children. When they become conspicuously quiet is when you have to worry.

Quiet kids burn things with matches. Quiet hate-groups blow things up with bombs.
Straight Sh00ter

United States

#19109 Jan 22, 2013
Avast ye knaves, fer tis time fer yet another story of Cap'n Jade, ye legendary bvtt pirate who is forever in search of more and more booty to plunder. In ye last episode Cap'n Jade had worked his stern chaser and come athwartship to ram his schooner astern into the prize ship. The poor parrot was knocked loose from it's moorings aboard Jade's shoulder and Jade fell out of the waterbed into the floor with a thunderous crash. Now he is shipwrecked, marooned without a ship to sail, for the SS Bill, the Wee Willy is sunk.

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