So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

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What makes hate, well, hate? Given that today is something of a quiet news day, it may be nice to give ourselves a breather and think about some things.

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Since: Jul 10

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#19001 Jan 22, 2013
The RS Police web site and also the RC Sheriff web site both state that Tips can be anonymous or a person can leave their name, as it is not who contacts them that is important but rather they want the info.

By law the police are not permitted to divulge to someone outside their office the source of their info, except if that was ordered by a court. They would not have that permission based on an unexpected phone call from an involved party, nor could they release it on the phone because they could not legally prove who they were speaking with.

We all know that police, like everyone else, don't always play it by the book, and they will often do things, such as asking for personal information from someone who they are questioning, which the party does not legally have to give them unless they have a warrant, and/or he has asked to speak to a lawyer first, but they will attempt to get the info, because most people do not know they have a right not to respond.

The simple fact is an office worker in a police office should never divulge information from their files to anyone, especially if she does not have the permission from her employer to do so, which then would be the responsibility of the police department itself, for having divulged private info.

I know having talked with several agencies now in Kentucky that they are quite free with information that they need not provide, and probably shouldn't. So far I have not been given any info by them that would be considered illegal, but I was told some information about an office which would not have been known to me, and was not really professional to divulge.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#19002 Jan 22, 2013
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
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I do, when I know she has not done any hacking and you are accusing her of it.
.. Patricia wants everyone to defend, she counts on that. Corner someone with lies and innuendos, make them squeal like a pig. She's a bully ..

.. when we stop defending, her game is up, the drama gone ..

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19003 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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And marriage only has to do with those getting married, therefore it is their private lives.
NO NO NO NO NO..........it is not private when it involves changing laws
it is not private when it is made public by taking it to schools to discuss,
when it involves public parades, gay day celebrations which are very public, when it involves petitioning churches to ignor the bible, redefining marriage,
when it involves forcing faith based businesses to compromise their faith to condone it....

gays have made it public
just like creating threads on the internet to DISCUSS it.
it is they who have made it public.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19004 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
From your own link, in the first paragraph:
"Smallpox is a potentially deadly infectious disease, now eradicated worldwide after successful global immunization programs. Over the centuries before being eliminated, smallpox devastated populations worldwide."
Did you even read your source? Or did you just type in "smallpox" and copy/paste the first result?
It has been CURED, it is not "treatable," it is curable. Of course the virus that created one disease still exists, smallpox has still been cured.
This whole argument started when you attempted to say that science isn't as good as it is. Science sees it's mistakes, then admits them and tries to help in the world. While your "god" is supposed to be perfect, yet he sits around, does nothing, and watches people die.
OMG......YES did you read it ALL?

one more time, one statement is all i am going to make

the virus still exists.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19005 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that everyone here can see that yours is.
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Anyone could have those same stories, so that doesn't mean anything. He hasn't given enough information to actually go on and it's highly unlikely that killers care or know anything about his vacations he's talked about.
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The act of the police department releasing his name was illegal, on their site it says information will remain confidential. Giving his name should have been kept confidential, and so it wasn't stupid, unless you're saying that it's stupid to trust the police, in other words, the law. They shouldn't have, under any circumstances, released his name, therefore the fear of having his name released to you would be irrational, but it happened because someone wasn't doing their job as they should.
The only one acting in revenge here is you, when you released his name on a public forum without consent.
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He's not delusional, you're the only one here who proved to be delusional.
<quoted text>
You are quite stupid and you are quite gullible, after all, you believe yourself when you tell yourself that you're fooling people into believing you aren't Patricia Hadley.
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This proves the point above.
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You did, HL posted links multiple times that prove you posted your own name here. You are such a pathological liar that it doesn't surprise us anymore when you continue to tell the lie that you never gave your name on Topix.
You can shove your head in the sand all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you burned your own house down with all your lies.
FACT IS, you don't speak for, or make the decisions for the PD
they run it as they are suppose to.
you might not like the choices made, but they were not your choice to make.

understand?

you are being extreamly and purposely stupid.

pattycakes privacy WAS breached.
she knew it,i know it, YOU know, the PD knows it, and others know it.
she left topix.

i didn't have to even tell her that boots was PMing me multiple times BEGGING ME (as in believing i am she) to call them
begging.
so i told her....... she called.
and the information was explained to her.
you act as if she has no rights in this matter at all.

what do you think, she should just sit back and allow her accuse to slander her falsely and nothing be done in her behalf? of course you think this, because you hate her based on her view points on topix.

well thats not how life works.
if someone did to me what they did to her, i would DEMANDED MORE than just a name.
he would be facing serious charges by now of invasion and defimation of character.
but its not my call to make.
the law DOES say you have a right to know and face your accuser.
so she had EVERY right to know who was slandering her falsey.
and I AM HAPPY SHE KNOWS.
and they would not have told her unless they felt it was the right thing to do.

hey, i was told they were worried he was living around here.
but when they discovered the lunitic is in canada, they were not to concerned then.
they told patty if she needed any help they would assist her in filing it with the state to investigate him.

a stranger in another country, contacting a busy pd dept rambling on and on and on about his personal mental problems and accusing a total stranger on topix as being mentally ill based on internet GOSSIP and the fact she pissed him off arguing issues?
you have got to be brain dead not to see the insanity in something like that.

Again, whats done is done.
and this way she can protect herself sufficently.

GOOD FOR HER!

Since: Jul 10

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#19006 Jan 22, 2013
I wish someone else here, who isn't mentally ill as I allegedly am, according to Patty (blame me for being open about my past history for that), would explain to Patty that all of her posts since the discussion regarding her talk with the RS police office will prove she is not only seriously mentally ill, but is also a proved liar. I think she needs to know and understand that to protect herself, as everything she has said on here in the past several weeks would go against her if anyone ever decided to check out her online behavior.

Again, Patty, it has nothing to do with your beliefs, other than you do bring them into conversations about something not related to your beliefs at all. What it says in the Bible, for example, would have nothing to do with what you are saying about who you are not in real life (whether Patty or not - and we all know you are Patty).

I actually mean that as advice, not from malice, because I am leaving for 9 1/2 weeks of sun and beach in less than a week, and Patty's personal issues are not going to be my concern when I am away.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19007 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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And by sharing your opinion, you are commenting on people's private lives.
Unless you're saying that what happens in another person's private life is your business, then you are commenting on people's private lives.
whaaaat?

Lacez you are not thinking right.

you just said

"and by SHARING your OPINION, you are commenting on people's private lives."

UH, hello? what do you think the purpose of TOPIX is?
why are you here sharing your OPINION on issues?

this is a discussion board to view your opinions.
that does not mean you are meddling in anyones private life.
UNLESS you do what crazy man boots did, and physcially assert yourself into someones private life with vicious attacks of slandering one on a personal level.

you need to get your mind straight.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19008 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Trying to hide what you said again? It's not going to work, just like it hasn't worked all those other times.
You said that Patty (you) would have killed herself (yourself) if she (you) had been gay. Then you laughed.
And so you laughed about gay people committing suicide.
you are an idiot.
and a poor POOR interperter of the english language.

you can not be talking about OTHER people when you are talking about one specific individual.

when a gay attempted to insult me by calling pattycake gay, OF COURSE I LAUGHED.
and my reply was IF she was, she would of committed sucide because thats how much that lifestyle repulses her.........
the reply was about ONE person, not other people.

you can't make everything a fight here.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19009 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooooh, so Patty, have you ever heard of hockey? That question now means I'm a player in the NHL, right?
As Charrington mentioned, you need the permission of the Internet service provider. Even then, none of us have done anything wrong, none of us are evil like you and so disgusting, and so none of us have to care if we give out only our first name.
Giving out your last name is incredibly stupid, and you've done it.
we are not talking about hockey.
we were discussing tracking folks........you don't know MY last name
and the fact you PERFECTS dug around and obtained pattycakes last name was YOU not her.
you all invaded her privacy, not the other way around.
she NEVER EVER gave that information out
just like you retards continuing to use her name on here PROVES the extent in which you will go to harm others.

you are not going to convience ANYONE that you are blameless on here.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19010 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you're claiming the FBI is after everyone over here?
You're more of a nutter than I originally thought.
OH STOP IT.......... my gwad you are dangerous, no matter what i say you twist it and make a argument out of it.

if you can't read or understand what i say, then you certainly do not need to be on here at all.

i will not reply to any more of your lunitic posts where you twist what i say.

grow up already.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19011 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one trying to convince people you're being stalked. You're the one who's doing a horrible job of it.
the posts show it, the actions of one irrational poster proved it and the PD know it.

I don't have to prove anything.

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19012 Jan 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
Kmart is on the same level as CHL now, I just scroll past without reading his posts. He never actually listens to everyone else, he just continues to spew the same disproven, uneducated opinions.
why do you call ANYONE who has different opinions from yours as uneducated? kind of phobic and bigoted of you isn't it?

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19013 Jan 22, 2013
Peace-Love-Happiness wrote:
<quoted text>
I do, when I know she has not done any hacking and you are accusing her of it.
plh i never once said she HAD hacked.
i said her reply was to a post about 'finding out my Id' and her reply was said in the light of 'ever heard of computer hacking'?
there was no accusing of her doing it, just her posting the remark in such a way as to SUGGEST it.

please don't twist what i say.

Since: May 11

Wickford, UK

#19014 Jan 22, 2013
United in faith wrote:
<quoted text>
the point was that the viruses still exist.
matters not that you are vaccinated against the illness, that is what keeps you from getting it........ the viruses themselves are still existant in the world.
whether in the wild or in a lab.
they still are existant. and small pox is only one of FEW that have been contained or erraticated from the wild.
there are MANY MANY incurable diseases out there.
here is a good example ... many get flu shots every year.
and the Dr will tell you, this is not a solid 100% guarantee that you won't still get the flu.
anotherwords, it is not a cure just a prevention of lower your chances of getting it.
There have been two diseases in the history of man which have been eradicated to the point of being called CURED by the World Health Organisation, rinderpest and SMALLPOX.

A flu virus adapts, a cold virus adapts which is why there are so many strains.

If I get an anthrax shot(which I have had) I am fairly confident that I won`t get pulmonary anthrax. If I get a yellow fever shot(which I have had) I am fairly sure that little yellow certificate from the WHO means that I am immune to yellow fever. People STILL get those diseases who have NOT been vaccinated.

HERE`S THE EASY BIT!

NO PERSON IS ROUTINELY VACCINATED AGAINST SMALLPOX BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN FOUND IN THE WILD SINCE 1977. IT HAS BEEN CURED!

PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED DO NOT GET IT!

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

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#19015 Jan 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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DO NOT POST TO ME
STOP TRASHING HER.

Since: Jul 12

Daytona Beach, FL

#19016 Jan 22, 2013
United in faith wrote:
every time you call me a name i am not, every time you continue to use private names on here...
YOU use "P's" name ALL THE TIME. What's the difference?

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19017 Jan 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
The RS Police web site and also the RC Sheriff web site both state that Tips can be anonymous or a person can leave their name, as it is not who contacts them that is important but rather they want the info.
By law the police are not permitted to divulge to someone outside their office the source of their info, except if that was ordered by a court. They would not have that permission based on an unexpected phone call from an involved party, nor could they release it on the phone because they could not legally prove who they were speaking with.
We all know that police, like everyone else, don't always play it by the book, and they will often do things, such as asking for personal information from someone who they are questioning, which the party does not legally have to give them unless they have a warrant, and/or he has asked to speak to a lawyer first, but they will attempt to get the info, because most people do not know they have a right not to respond.
The simple fact is an office worker in a police office should never divulge information from their files to anyone, especially if she does not have the permission from her employer to do so, which then would be the responsibility of the police department itself, for having divulged private info.
I know having talked with several agencies now in Kentucky that they are quite free with information that they need not provide, and probably shouldn't. So far I have not been given any info by them that would be considered illegal, but I was told some information about an office which would not have been known to me, and was not really professional to divulge.
When you file a false report all bets are off.

Since: May 11

Wickford, UK

#19018 Jan 22, 2013
United in faith wrote:
<quoted text>
you must think the FBI are stupid people.
LOL
anyone could be found if they were being looked for.
The FBI?

You said and I quote

"the point is personal info DOES NOT belong on the internet. for many reasons. an IP is not that hard to pin down. so you are stupid if you give even just your first name".

So what you meant to say was, if you can demonstrate probable cause to a police officer who with then determine if it is within his jurisdiction and if not will hand it off to a federal agency who will then decide if it is worth the time or the effort, assuming it is he will then ask a judge to issue a subpoena for the server records of Topix, then once the IP address has been resolved he will then petition a judge to issue a subpoena for the ISP records of the IP address in question to determine if it is an individual or a corporation, if it is a corporation he will then contact the network administrator to check if it is possible to pin down who was on a particular workstation or if it`s a public hotspot to see if there is any way to identify a particular wireless client who has connected with specific websites at the time of the alleged offences.....and this is just if everything is happening in the US.

So an IP address is "not that hard to pin down"...and only if you`re a federal agent...I`m SO sure they`re literally lining up to do this right now because some batty old tart from west bumblefuck Kentucky feels aggrieved that someone called her out on her complete ignorance of EVERYTHING.

So tell me again...why I should worry about giving my first name on Topix?

“O'si yo!”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19019 Jan 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. Patricia wants everyone to defend, she counts on that. Corner someone with lies and innuendos, make them squeal like a pig. She's a bully ..
.. when we stop defending, her game is up, the drama gone ..
Hows that? the drama will be gone? and here you are STILL talking about her every day in every post.

when you stop dragging her name thru the mud THEN the drama will be gone.

You are the one stirring in it.

Since: Jul 12

Daytona Beach, FL

#19020 Jan 22, 2013
United in faith wrote:
and there it is! there you have it.......... THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for proving my point.
you won't stop trashing pattycake until I leave.
there it is..........
YOUR AGENDA.
if you can't make some agree with you
they must go.
if you can't make someone keep their opinions to themself they must go.
the lie you think you are concealing is shining through like a beacon in the dark.........the agenda you share with your god haters and gays on here, "SILENCE ANY AND ALL OPPOSING VOICES"
RUN EM OFF.
what ever it takes.
you just said it.
and the lie is even if i wasn't here you would STILL talk about and trash 'P' because you did it before i was here.
and becauase you all call other posters patty.
so you lie plh.
you want me gone because i am a reminder of what you did
a thorn in your muddy paw.
TUFF.
i will go when i choose to go.
not because you and others are limited in your ability to handle and deal with opposing views.
but thanks for admitting your agenda openly.
How, exactly, does "when 'P' leaves, we can stop talking about her," equate to us trying to "silence" you for your opinions?? You are truly mentally challenged.

I never *suggested* that you leave. You SAID that if we stopped talking about "P," you would leave. I was responding to your claim, not requesting that you leave.

There's no point in asking you to leave because I know it will never happen.

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