So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

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What makes hate, well, hate? Given that today is something of a quiet news day, it may be nice to give ourselves a breather and think about some things.

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Bob

Tenino, WA

#6041 Oct 6, 2012
Just Think wrote:
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Why on earth would you want millions upon millions of people to live sad and lonely lives?
Just pray to GOD for good christain wife. He foumd me one, and she is not only kind, and good but also very pretty. I truly feel blessed. God has a good wife waiting for you, if you pray to him.

GOD is AWESOME.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6042 Oct 7, 2012
The trolling is going to get uglier as we approach the Election.

“Can't help being fabulous”

Since: Dec 10

Sparkle <3

#6043 Oct 7, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
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you sound STUPID.
when i quote a bible scripture they are NOT my words.
i realize you hate truth, because after all HERE YOU ARE...promoting homosexuality with no thought or care about what GOD says in reference to it.
to blame ME and call my words without substance when it is the biblical truth i am sharing here, is stupid passing through, absolutely stupid.
You can't "promote" homosexuality, it's a cold hard genetic fact whether someone is homosexual or not, in the same way some people have blue eyes, or brown hair.

Please just bear in mind, that the vast majority in the western world DON'T share your overtly-zealous view, and if we can tolerate your opinions (however ridiculous they may be), then you should tolerate our opinions. My sexuality has very little to do with my work and day to day life, and considering that you'd be the last person i'd pick as a life partner, I doubt it concerns you at all. So please just live and let live, everyone is consenting and happy, why can't you give it it a rest?

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6044 Oct 7, 2012
MisterCharrington wrote:
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no that is not patty this is patty:
or both of them would get along famously with patty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hSKReGF6IwwXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
it's a tough call which one would be Pattie's BFF.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6045 Oct 7, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
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Oh but HE DID.
it was called the great Flood of Noah.
Not by Native Americans, The Chinese or the Hindus.

But why should any of them get any rights here in America where we ALL KNOW GOD thinks our Football team should have won.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6046 Oct 7, 2012
I'm at post #5772 and sorry but I'm going to jump ahead. This thread is supposed to be about what the anti-gays fear, not a Paulist Apologist discussion of Pattie's belief system.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6047 Oct 7, 2012
So tell us what your REALLY afraid of Pattie?

Could it be being ignored?

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6048 Oct 7, 2012
Passing Through wrote:
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If you knew "better", you'd know Protestants removed the canonical status of the Apocrypha after the Reformation. So in fact, it was Protestants that changed the Christian bible, not Catholics.
So as usual, you know nothing about the history of your own faith.
You're both incorrect. The "Apocrypha" was established at the Nicene Council in 379 A.D. "Catholics" didn't exist at that time. "Roman Catholics" weren't a group until the Great Schism, 1378-1415 when the split happened between Eastern Rite and Rome over whether Jesus was wholly Divine and if He felt pain on the Cross.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6049 Oct 7, 2012
Passing Through wrote:
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If you knew "better", you'd know Protestants removed the canonical status of the Apocrypha after the Reformation. So in fact, it was Protestants that changed the Christian bible, not Catholics.
So as usual, you know nothing about the history of your own faith.
And if you "knew better" you wouldn't make so many mistakes when it comes to "Church History".

OMG I Just thought of something funny.

The people who are afraid about teaching "gay history" to children say it might make them gay.

If we teach "Church History" in schools will that make Children Maronite?(special wink to my teacher snyper. and no I'm not cleaning up that coffee spry either)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6050 Oct 7, 2012
DNF wrote:
I'm at post #5772 and sorry but I'm going to jump ahead. This thread is supposed to be about what the anti-gays fear, not a Paulist Apologist discussion of Pattie's belief system.
You sure got that one in one!

(friendly note: We use "Saulian" because "Paulian" accepts his presumptions, and "Paulist" is an order of RC clergy.)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6051 Oct 7, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>And if you "knew better" you wouldn't make so many mistakes when it comes to "Church History".
OMG I Just thought of something funny.
The people who are afraid about teaching "gay history" to children say it might make them gay.
If we teach "Church History" in schools will that make Children Maronite?(special wink to my teacher snyper. and no I'm not cleaning up that coffee spry either)
Lebanese Antiochene Orthodox Catholic ?!?!!?

OMFG !! Now you're really going to confuse poor Battycakes !

How many times have I told you not to play with your food!

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#6052 Oct 7, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Lebanese Antiochene Orthodox Catholic ?!?!!?
OMFG !! Now you're really going to confuse poor Battycakes !
How many times have I told you not to play with your food!
OK.

Now I DO have a coffee spray to clean up.

THANKS a LOT!

Battycakes?

Love it!

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#6053 Oct 7, 2012
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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What if he comes back and tells everyone what a big jerk off his father really is?
Did you hear about how Bob thinks all gays are zombies?
He should be put away before he goes on a rampage, trying to shoot anyone who looks gay in the slightest right in the head.
He's quite a danger to society.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#6054 Oct 7, 2012
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i have MORE than sufficently answered your question.
and not only that i have answered it a hundered times over because every single atheist on here asks the same questions.
I'm not "every single atheist". Maybe this is a difficult concept for you. We're all different people. If a 100 Christians asked me the same question, then I'd answer a 100 times.

If I refused even once, then they would be justified in accusing me of dodging the questions.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
and when you continually request what evidence? and i go to get time and trouble to LIST so much, and you come back with rejection and denials and scoffing then i say to myself,'it is a waste of good time to repeat myself.'
Yet all I hear is that you HAVE listed the evidence. Where? When? How can I find your list? At this point, I don't even have evidence that YOU have evidence. It just looks like you don't like being asked for it.

I'm not even sure why you're here on Topix, "discussing" this subject. You seem to resent being approached for conversation, which is the whole point of forums like this.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
GOD has made sure the evidences can be seen ..... but those who are spiritually blinded by the father of lies will not see them.
its that simple.
There's that denial again. "Oh, the evidence is so OBVIOUS that I don't have to list it, you just don't WANT to see it".

This is dodging.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i can look at the entire universe and see the work of a Creator
That's "inferring", it's not evidence. The universe doesn't have a giant tag on it saying "Made by Jehovah".
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i can look at the perfection and uniquness and intelligent design of life and nature and KNOW there is a Creator.
Perfection like cerebral palsy or Down syndrome? The design of nature like the Loa Loa? Why would a god create such an invasive and destructive creature?
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i can read the word of GOD and 'feel' the truth as much as i can read it.
Truth isn't "felt", it's confirmed by demonstration and repetition. We don't learn things by letting our emotions run away with us.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i can acknowledge the thousands of discoveries made that BACK UP and SUPPORT the scriptures as truth
CAN you? I keep asking, you keep dodging...
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i can KNOW there is a GOD because of my own very real life experiences with GOD.
Isn't that what a Buddhist would say? Or a Shintoist? Or a Sikh? Or a Wiccan?
Pattiecake58 wrote:
i know GOD is GOD, His power and presence in my life has made me know.
This is one of the least informative, circular statements I'll hear all day.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
but i stepped out in faith, took the time to seek Him, and trusted Him even when i didn't feel His presence.
My questions are how I seek truth. Christians seem to want me punished for this. It seems as if they would ENCOURAGE God to continue to ignore me for it.
Pattiecake58 wrote:
I have wittnessed MIRACLES in my life.
And I still don't know what you consider a "miracle". A disease healed by doctors? Lost car keys found? Somewhere in between?
Pattiecake58 wrote:
you can not take that away from me or from anyone else who knows.
I'm not trying to "take" anything from you. I'm just curious about your beliefs, but you seem to view these questions as some kind of "theft".
Pattiecake58 wrote:
If you can't see all the evidences of GOD then it is YOU who are limiting yourself, not GOD.
I see evidence of the universe, but that only proves that the universe exists. If I wanted, I could MAKE myself see "evidence" of Zeus, or Allah, or Quetzalcoatl, or aliens, or tree spirits, or a flying spaghetti monster. REAL evidence can be presented by anyone, and confirmed by anyone else, and it will always be the same.
Bob

Seattle, WA

#6055 Oct 7, 2012
hey Bob wrote:
Have you ever given any thought to this scenario: There are songs, stories, and books about "What if Jesus came back...as a junkie, a homeless person, an unwed mother" etc. What if Jesus came back as a gay man? Would you treat him with the kindness and respect he deserves, or accuse him of being a child rapist and all the other lies you tell here?
You see Bob, it could happen - God does have a sense of humor...and what will He think of you for treating a person in this way? You just never know do you???
Treat all people with dignity, respect and kindness you could be talking to Jesus, please keep that in mind!
Jesus would never return as an evil rebrobate abomination. That would be the antichrist you are thinking about.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#6056 Oct 7, 2012
EdmondWA wrote:
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I'm not "every single atheist". Maybe this is a difficult concept for you. We're all different people. If a 100 Christians asked me the same question, then I'd answer a 100 times.
If I refused even once, then they would be justified in accusing me of dodging the questions.
<quoted text>
Yet all I hear is that you HAVE listed the evidence. Where? When? How can I find your list? At this point, I don't even have evidence that YOU have evidence. It just looks like you don't like being asked for it.
I'm not even sure why you're here on Topix, "discussing" this subject. You seem to resent being approached for conversation, which is the whole point of forums like this.
<quoted text>
There's that denial again. "Oh, the evidence is so OBVIOUS that I don't have to list it, you just don't WANT to see it".
This is dodging.
<quoted text>
That's "inferring", it's not evidence. The universe doesn't have a giant tag on it saying "Made by Jehovah".
<quoted text>
Perfection like cerebral palsy or Down syndrome? The design of nature like the Loa Loa? Why would a god create such an invasive and destructive creature?
<quoted text>
Truth isn't "felt", it's confirmed by demonstration and repetition. We don't learn things by letting our emotions run away with us.
<quoted text>
CAN you? I keep asking, you keep dodging...
<quoted text>
Isn't that what a Buddhist would say? Or a Shintoist? Or a Sikh? Or a Wiccan?
<quoted text>
This is one of the least informative, circular statements I'll hear all day.
<quoted text>
My questions are how I seek truth. Christians seem to want me punished for this. It seems as if they would ENCOURAGE God to continue to ignore me for it.
<quoted text>
And I still don't know what you consider a "miracle". A disease healed by doctors? Lost car keys found? Somewhere in between?
<quoted text>
I'm not trying to "take" anything from you. I'm just curious about your beliefs, but you seem to view these questions as some kind of "theft".
<quoted text>
I see evidence of the universe, but that only proves that the universe exists. If I wanted, I could MAKE myself see "evidence" of Zeus, or Allah, or Quetzalcoatl, or aliens, or tree spirits, or a flying spaghetti monster. REAL evidence can be presented by anyone, and confirmed by anyone else, and it will always be the same.
All praise the flying spaghetti monster.
guest

United States

#6057 Oct 7, 2012
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>All praise the flying spaghetti monster.
Maybe it's worth starting a tax free establishment with a congregation devoted to the flying spaghetti monster!

We could write a book and call ourselves a'pasta'ls..

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#6058 Oct 7, 2012
Just Think wrote:
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Why on earth would you want millions upon millions of people to live sad and lonely lives?
Are you saying that those who live by Gods laws and are unmarried are sad and lonely? Unlike you they probably think of things other than themselves.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

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#6059 Oct 7, 2012
Lacez wrote:
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Did you hear about how Bob thinks all gays are zombies?
He should be put away before he goes on a rampage, trying to shoot anyone who looks gay in the slightest right in the head.
He's quite a danger to society.
Luckily, I don't think he gets out of the basement enough to do any harm. He wouldn't want anyone to find all the gay porn he's downloaded.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#6060 Oct 7, 2012
LET'S ALL IGNORE PATTIE UNTIL 10-15-2012.

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