America Hates Vladimir Putin and Does...

America Hates Vladimir Putin and Doesn't Much Like Russians

There are 17 comments on the Daily Kos story from Feb 22, 2014, titled America Hates Vladimir Putin and Doesn't Much Like Russians. In it, Daily Kos reports that:

Nobody in America seems to have much of anything nice to say about Vladimir Putin or Russia, itself.

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Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#1 Feb 22, 2014
I am not a fan of Putin.We cannot claim the Russian people are evil.Through out Russian history they have only known authoritarian rule.The rule of the Mongols,Tsars,and Bolsheviks.True freedom/democracy means taking the thorny,difficult path of taking responsibility for your life instead of having it preplanned for you by the party"elite".Russian people are smarter than Communism gives them credit for.I believe overtime that the tendency to surrender your lives/freedoms to the will of one man will fade from Russian history.Russia has created beautiful things.St.Basil's Cathedral,the Winter Palace.Not to mention great works of literature and music.It is a heroic country that survived the sieges of Leningrad and Stalingrad.These are examples of the true Russian spirit.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Feb 22, 2014
Just a thought wrote:
I am not a fan of Putin.We cannot claim the Russian people are evil.Through out Russian history they have only known authoritarian rule.The rule of the Mongols,Tsars,and Bolsheviks.True freedom/democracy means taking the thorny,difficult path of taking responsibility for your life instead of having it preplanned for you by the party"elite".Russian people are smarter than Communism gives them credit for.I believe overtime that the tendency to surrender your lives/freedoms to the will of one man will fade from Russian history.Russia has created beautiful things.St.Basil's Cathedral,the Winter Palace.Not to mention great works of literature and music.It is a heroic country that survived the sieges of Leningrad and Stalingrad.These are examples of the true Russian spirit.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I really believed, and wanted, for Russia to become best friends with the U.S. and work with the U.S. to help solve some of the world's problems. I believe that President Yeltsin really wanted this too.

But sadly, his successor, Putin, a "former" communist and intelligence officer, does not want this. Putin is well on his way to becoming the longest-reigning ruler of Russia in the past 150 years. He deeply longs for the Soviet Union to be reconstituted, something that will never happen, and so he is intent on Russia becoming a near-cold War adversary of the U.S.

I don't believe that the vast majority of the Russian people want this, but they have no say at all in the matter. Putin is just the latest in a very long line of Russian dictators, and he may prove to be one of the most effective dictators, and perhaps the longest-reigning dictator.

And while I do not believe our relations will become as bad as they were during the Cold War, he certainly is making the relationship an adversarial one, which it shouldn't be, and doesn't have to be.

As far as current events are concerned, I hope that Ukraine can constitute an effective democratic government soon, and quickly join the EU, and possibly NATO, and become integrated into Europe as soon as possible, and escape the clutches of Putin.

Despite the pronouncements of The Obamaniac and his naive Secretary Of State, Putin is not our friends, and he doesn't want to be our friend.

And we should look out for the interests of ourselves, and our friends, and not try to become friends with Putin just for the sake of being friends.

Any nations, such as Ukraine and Georgia, that wants to embrace democracy become integrated with the European nations, should be embraced by us and our European partners, and given all the help they need to join the EU and other European organizations such as NATO. Quite awhile ago, Georgia asked to join NATO and was turned down by us for membership. That was a mistake that should not be repeated.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#3 Feb 22, 2014
I quite agree.Putin is cut from the same cloth as Lenin/Stalin before him.Each took advantage of the power vaccum that is created when no one steps in and takes political control.Each does not hesitate to kill people who criticize their polices,even fellow communists like Trotsky and the untold victims of the purges in the 30's.Putin claimed that he"renounced communism for religion".A 16 year KGB man who dreamed of becoming one.The reason Russia clings to these former Sovet satellite countries is that the Bolsheviks traded their territory to consolidate their revolution through the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.They lost Ukraine,Finland.Georgia,Poland ,and the Baltic states.These lands contained up to 75% of their heavy industry and mining resources.All for a failed ideology that creates a serfdom that serves the"party elite".There is the myth of the"classless society".
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I really believed, and wanted, for Russia to become best friends with the U.S. and work with the U.S. to help solve some of the world's problems. I believe that President Yeltsin really wanted this too.
But sadly, his successor, Putin, a "former" communist and intelligence officer, does not want this. Putin is well on his way to becoming the longest-reigning ruler of Russia in the past 150 years. He deeply longs for the Soviet Union to be reconstituted, something that will never happen, and so he is intent on Russia becoming a near-cold War adversary of the U.S.
I don't believe that the vast majority of the Russian people want this, but they have no say at all in the matter. Putin is just the latest in a very long line of Russian dictators, and he may prove to be one of the most effective dictators, and perhaps the longest-reigning dictator.
And while I do not believe our relations will become as bad as they were during the Cold War, he certainly is making the relationship an adversarial one, which it shouldn't be, and doesn't have to be.
As far as current events are concerned, I hope that Ukraine can constitute an effective democratic government soon, and quickly join the EU, and possibly NATO, and become integrated into Europe as soon as possible, and escape the clutches of Putin.
Despite the pronouncements of The Obamaniac and his naive Secretary Of State, Putin is not our friends, and he doesn't want to be our friend.
And we should look out for the interests of ourselves, and our friends, and not try to become friends with Putin just for the sake of being friends.
Any nations, such as Ukraine and Georgia, that wants to embrace democracy become integrated with the European nations, should be embraced by us and our European partners, and given all the help they need to join the EU and other European organizations such as NATO. Quite awhile ago, Georgia asked to join NATO and was turned down by us for membership. That was a mistake that should not be repeated.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#4 Feb 23, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I really believed, and wanted, for Russia to become best friends with the U.S. and work with the U.S. to help solve some of the world's problems.
...
I belived and wanted in friendship and collaboration with the US too that time. And still have a dream about it.
Well it actually happened to some extent. But of course not as seriously as many hoped.

I can explain what didn't work on Russian side.
But US. I don't see it's ever been friendly to the people of Russia. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#5 Feb 23, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
...
As far as current events are concerned, I hope that Ukraine can constitute an effective democratic government soon, and quickly join the EU, and possibly NATO, and become integrated into Europe as soon as possible, and escape the clutches of Putin.
...
As far as current events are concerned, USA supports those in Ukraine who shout 'kill a russian with a knive' aloud. As it usually happens.
How do you think I can trust your government wants me alive?
BTW, countries that joined NATO and EU before like Bolgaria, Latvia or Romania are poorer now than Russia and will be even worse off in the future. Are you sure you want this for Ukraine?
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#6 Feb 23, 2014
Of course they are because of the transition from a command economy to a free market economy.Before they were told what to produce and when to produce it.In a free market system,a country must produce consumer goods that are deemed valuable and can be traded for other goods.Capitalism sets the stage for the transition to socialism/communism according to Marx.With better wages/working conditions this revolution will not take place.Marx was a 19th century man with a 19th century outlook.
Bycha wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as current events are concerned, USA supports those in Ukraine who shout 'kill a russian with a knive' aloud. As it usually happens.
How do you think I can trust your government wants me alive?
BTW, countries that joined NATO and EU before like Bolgaria, Latvia or Romania are poorer now than Russia and will be even worse off in the future. Are you sure you want this for Ukraine?

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#7 Feb 23, 2014
Just a thought wrote:
I quite agree.Putin is cut from the same cloth as Lenin/Stalin
....
.All for a failed ideology that creates a serfdom that serves the"party elite".There is the myth of the"classless society".<quoted text>
What do you mean 'same cloths'?
He's not a communist (which is great). So your historical facts are irrelevant.
The relevant fact is that USA supported Stalin that time and supports present-day-communists here now.
CntrlAltDel

Las Vegas, NV

#8 Feb 23, 2014
"America Hates Vladimir Putin and Doesn't Much Like Russians"

That statement simply is not true. Many Americans, including many on this forum, approve of how Vladimir Putin has stood up to the homosexual scourge.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#9 Feb 23, 2014
Putin was a KGB Lt Col for 16 years.A member of the Communist party until it was dissolved.KGB was the main security agency of the Soviet Union 1954-91.Soviet Union was a communist state from 1922-91.KGB motto"Loyalty to the party,loyalty to the state.WE did not"support"Stalin,w e supported the Russian people who had to endure Stalin's famines and disasterous pact with Hitler.This was through aid and Lend-lease.Not to mention Russia's civil war and famines in the 20's
Bycha wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean 'same cloths'?
He's not a communist (which is great). So your historical facts are irrelevant.
The relevant fact is that USA supported Stalin that time and supports present-day-communists here now.
Just a thought

Beloit, WI

#10 Feb 23, 2014
Excuse one error"Loyalty to the motherland".Late night eyes.
Beauty Queen

Wembley, UK

#11 Feb 23, 2014
CntrlAltDel wrote:
"America Hates Vladimir Putin and Doesn't Much Like Russians"
.
Silly internet troll ...
deport all russians

Bensalem, PA

#13 Mar 21, 2014
We should deport all Russians who are in America,they all tell say they support Adolf Putin,why should we risk what they might do to hurt our country like the Nazi spies did during the second world war,get rid of them now,once a commie always a commie,this way we also get rid the the Russia Mafia in our country before we go to war with Nazi Russia!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#14 Mar 21, 2014
Americans don't give a sht about Putin or Russia. We don't even pay attention. Russia has not been relevant to us in 25 years.
deport all russians

Bensalem, PA

#15 Mar 21, 2014
Bycha wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean 'same cloths'?
He's not a communist (which is great). So your historical facts are irrelevant.
The relevant fact is that USA supported Stalin that time and supports present-day-communists here now.
You are right comrade,Putin is not a commie,Putin is a NAZI!, He is the grandson of the that butcher Stalin,he also has to be gay going around with no shirt on all of the time and yet he kills Gays in Russia, We only supported Stalin because he was the less of two evils (Nazis)
and only until the the war was over and he started to march into other countries and take them over and became a true Nazi just like Putin is doing now, Hey comrade ZIG HILE!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Mar 21, 2014
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#17 Mar 21, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Zv13ZnkpWosXX
Who would click on links from perverts? Probably a couple of flaming queens copulating in public.
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#18 Mar 21, 2014
Faith wrote:
Americans don't give a sht about Putin or Russia. We don't even pay attention. Russia has not been relevant to us in 25 years.
You still pissed off that Putin is not pro gay marriage like the crowd in Brussels and Washington? Bet today's multicultural US military is a hotbed of HIV.

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