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Minnesota churches preparing for gay weddings i 1 2 re-crafting parts of the service

There are 50 comments on the Sunherald.com story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Minnesota churches preparing for gay weddings i 1 2 re-crafting parts of the service. In it, Sunherald.com reports that:

Karl Starr and Christopher Haug pledged their love for each other on the altar of Central Lutheran Church - preparing for the day they will walk into Minnesota history.

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#1 Aug 1, 2013
Awesome news. A friend is about to leave for MN to go to grad school.
Listen to the Word

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#2 Aug 3, 2013
Again not a word about what God in Genesis and Jesus in the Gospel say in establishing and defining marriage. Obviously the ELCA and the TEC cannot have God defining marriage for them. They need the liberal, secular state to do that for them. No wonder ELCA and TEC are in some working relationship with each other. It's the perfect same theology marriage of two dying church bodies.

“ reality, what a concept”

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#3 Aug 4, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Again not a word about what God in Genesis and Jesus in the Gospel say in establishing and defining marriage. Obviously the ELCA and the TEC cannot have God defining marriage for them. They need the liberal, secular state to do that for them. No wonder ELCA and TEC are in some working relationship with each other. It's the perfect same theology marriage of two dying church bodies.
Sweetie, you don't get to decide who is getting God's Christianity right, HE does. Just because you're praying like the dickens that God doesn't bless same sex marriages doesn't mean that He agrees with you. No matter how certain you are that He just has to. Sorry. I thought you would already know this, being a self-professed Christian and all. I hope finding out that you haven't been given God's okay to be a judgmental fool doesn't hurt your faith in Him. But it's in the book. I've read it.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#4 Aug 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
... I thought you would already know this, being a self-professed Christian and all. I hope finding out that you haven't been given God's okay to be a judgmental fool doesn't hurt your faith in Him. But it's in the book. I've read it.
If by "the book" you mean the Bible, I for one haven't seen anything advocating same-sex marriage anywhere in it, but your personal attack against LttW raises another issue.

"A growing number of Christians, and especially religious liberty advocates, are voicing serious concern that publicly expressing the biblical belief that marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman will be classified as 'hate speech'".

http://www.worthynews.com/top/au-christiantod...

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#5 Aug 5, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
If by "the book" you mean the Bible, I for one haven't seen anything advocating same-sex marriage anywhere in it, but your personal attack against LttW raises another issue.
There is none so blind as those who will not see.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
"A growing number of Christians, and especially religious liberty advocates, are voicing serious concern that publicly expressing the biblical belief that marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman will be classified as 'hate speech'".
I didn't call her point of view hate speech sweetie, I merely disagreed with it. Does your notion of religious liberty entail anyone who disagrees with you having to keep their point of view to themselves because you are blaming God for yours?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#6 Aug 5, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
Again not a word about what God in Genesis and Jesus in the Gospel say in establishing and defining marriage. Obviously the ELCA and the TEC cannot have God defining marriage for them. They need the liberal, secular state to do that for them. No wonder ELCA and TEC are in some working relationship with each other. It's the perfect same theology marriage of two dying church bodies.
The straight people murdered Jesus and he is no longer able to govern
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So GOD replaced Jesus with Obama

“Equality First”

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#7 Aug 5, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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If by "the book" you mean the Bible, I for one haven't seen anything advocating same-sex marriage anywhere in it.........."
And I haven't seen anything in it forbidding marriage equality, or can you point that passage out to me? I'll wait.

“ reality, what a concept”

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#8 Aug 5, 2013
RalphB wrote:
And I haven't seen anything in it forbidding marriage equality, or can you point that passage out to me? I'll wait.
My money is on Matthew 19:4-5.

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#9 Aug 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>My money is on Matthew 19:4-5.
I would expect so, but I'm looking more for a "Thou Shalt Not" passage. After all, that is to be expected, since all the biggies have that phrase in front of them. And the subject is sooooooo important to the "christians" that you would think it would be just as important to their "god", wouldn't you?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#10 Aug 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
I didn't call her point of view hate speech sweetie, I merely disagreed with it ...
... by calling her a fool.
Rick in Kansas wrote:
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My money is on Matthew 19:4-5 ...
... as based on Genesis 1:27 and 2:24.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#11 Aug 5, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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And I haven't seen anything in it forbidding marriage equality ...
"Marriage equality"? Exactly what does anal sex make us equal to?
I'll wait.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#12 Aug 5, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... by calling her a fool.
Actually, what I said was, "I hope finding out that you haven't been given God's okay to be a judgmental fool doesn't hurt your faith in Him." You should know by now, when I have disagreements with folk, I don't mince words. Do you believe the bible gives you the God given and blessed right to act as a judgmental fool unto others?
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... as based on Genesis 1:27 and 2:24.
Right before God blesses sex sans marriage among the people he just created and an odd statement to make at that point in the plot, considering that no one in the story had parents nor were parents themselves. But Moses does say that God creating Eve from Adam is why the Jewish folk continued to get married. It makes no mention of same sex marriages, but since there were only a man and a woman playing in the Garden, its not being there is hardly surprising.

For your early Christian ancestors however, the one and only reason you would need to get married was to get out of going to hell for successfully fornicating for procreative purposes. Without special dispensation, for 1500 odd years, pre-marital sex and proven procreative abilities, were the requirements for the Church to bless your marriage. The ending of the pre-marriage in the eyes of God road tests by the Church was one of the reasons we have Protestants.

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#13 Aug 5, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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"Marriage equality"? Exactly what does anal sex make us equal to?
I'll wait.
WHY is it always about the sex acts for you? LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!!

Never in my life have I ever seen such an interest in the sex lives of others....of course unless you have NONE of your own...just saying.

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#14 Aug 6, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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"Marriage equality"? Exactly what does anal sex make us equal to?
I'll wait.
You equate marriage equality to sex? Really? Is your marriage (if you have one) reduced to just sex? As for the anal sex part, is that what you think ALL gays and lesbians do? If so, you are as ignorant as your post indicates.

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#15 Aug 6, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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"Marriage equality"? Exactly what does anal sex make us equal to?
I'll wait.
By the way, you haven't pointed out one passage in your voluminous book that forbids us from marrying each other. Where exactly is that "Thou Shalt Not"?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#16 Aug 6, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Never in my life have I ever seen such an interest in the sex lives of others ...
This coming from the "christian" lesbian who once boasted on this forum that she had more pussy than I ever would.
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Right before God blesses sex sans marriage among the people he just created and an odd statement to make at that point in the plot, considering that no one in the story had parents nor were parents themselves. But Moses does say that God creating Eve from Adam is why the Jewish folk continued to get married. It makes no mention of same sex marriages ...
Because when Jesus insisted on monogamous marriage, he predicated it on averse in Genesis that said, "from the beginning God made them male and female ..."
The fact that God had designed two, and only two, sexes for complementary sexual pairing was Jesus' basis for monogamy, according to Rev. Robert Gagnon.
RalphB wrote:
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By the way, you haven't pointed out one passage in your voluminous book that forbids us from marrying each other ...
See above.

“Equality First”

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#17 Aug 6, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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This coming from the "christian" lesbian who once boasted on this forum that she had more pussy than I ever would.
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Because when Jesus insisted on monogamous marriage, he predicated it on averse in Genesis that said, "from the beginning God made them male and female ..."
The fact that God had designed two, and only two, sexes for complementary sexual pairing was Jesus' basis for monogamy, according to Rev. Robert Gagnon.
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See above.
He/she/it may have been assumed by anti-GLBTers to have said what you state, but you still are unable to show where he/she/it FORBIDS us marrying. Why is it he/she/it specifically forbids all the things in the 10 commandments, and let this real biggie slip by? He/she/it didn't know it was going to happen? I find that highly doubtful, considering how all-powerful you folks say he/she/it is. No, my friend, if it was and is as awful as you religionists say it is, he/she/it would not have ignored it, but specifically stated that we shouldn't do it. And more to the point, why is your interpretation the only one that must be followed. Are the other religions not allowed to interpret these passages as they believe, or are you as all-powerful and all-knowing as your supposed god?

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#18 Aug 6, 2013
God made them MALE AND FEMALE, BUTCH AND FEMME, TOP AND BOTTOM....

BTW Joe...which one are you, pitcher or catcher?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Aug 6, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Because when Jesus insisted on monogamous marriage, he predicated it on averse in Genesis that said, "from the beginning God made them male and female ..."
The fact that God had designed two, and only two, sexes for complementary sexual pairing was Jesus' basis for monogamy, according to Rev. Robert Gagnon.
Your expectations for gay couples will be unfulfilled on two fronts:
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Front 1:
The straight people murdered Jesus 2000 years ago and he is no longer able to govern
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So GOD sent Obama to take charge. Update your files accordingly
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Front 2:
Gay couples have 1,308 ways to express intimate love; 82% of which result in orgasm. This doubles to 2,616 when we roll over and swap roles
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Many gay couples never get around to your anal orgasm fantasy because we're too busy playing elsewhere on the 1,308 checklist

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#20 Aug 6, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Awesome news. A friend is about to leave for MN to go to grad school.
You betcha !

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