Utah district sued for segregating children's book about lesbian mums

There are 13 comments on the www.guardian.co.uk story from Nov 15, 2012, titled Utah district sued for segregating children's book about lesbian mums. In it, www.guardian.co.uk reports that:

A lawsuit filed in Utah is claiming that the removal of a children's book featuring lesbian parents from library shelves is a violation of the first amendment.

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#22 Nov 16, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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understand , but when do we begin... children who can witness two of the same engaged in emotion may not be able to know there is a difference
As Gunner said, kids at that age don't know the difference - and I really don't think they would care. They just see two adults that love each other - which in this day in age, is a lot better than the voilent alternative they get on TV, IMO.

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#23 Nov 16, 2012
*violent (sorry, pre-coffee typing)

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#24 Nov 16, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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As Gunner said, kids at that age don't know the difference - and I really don't think they would care. They just see two adults that love each other - which in this day in age, is a lot better than the voilent alternative they get on TV, IMO.
exactly as I said they are great copy cats . for them to distinguish emotion mentally begins when ?????

same sex isn't the world's norm , not a school district

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#25 Nov 16, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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exactly as I said they are great copy cats . for them to distinguish emotion mentally begins when ?????
same sex isn't the world's norm , not a school district
Your logic is just slightly askew. Love isn't the world's norm either - war, hate, racism, etc., are. We, as adults, are terrible teachers - instead of leading by example, we tend nowadays to teach kids how to adapt to a violent and hateful world - always wary and cautious.

If homosexuality is indeed an inherited gene - as I pointed out, then any amount of exposure to it would not affect the child's development in any way, especially a book. I read Slaughter House 9 in grade school - it was a good read, but hardly affected my upbringing. Television violence on the other hand is not an inherited characteristic - instead, more of a learned experience if you will. Sesame Street is an excellent example - my daughter knew her alphabet by the time she was 3.

I was referring more to the love versus violence alternative than the homosexuality versus television alternative.

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#26 Nov 16, 2012
If gay marriages were the 'norm' we would have far less children. They can't reproduce and therefore need children from 'men and women' to 'increase'.
They are a pervertion of the norm.

Mormons and Catholics are the most outspoken about this, so they are hit hardest.
Just because a woman writes a fairytale story that makes two moms and their children look happy all the time and all the children are well adjusted and successful - is a fairytale.

I'm torn about banning it, but when they bring in the ACLU - that shows how desperate they are and shows me that the purpose of the book isn't to entertain - it is to recruit.

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#27 Nov 16, 2012
quilterqueen wrote:
If gay marriages were the 'norm' we would have far less children. They can't reproduce and therefore need children from 'men and women' to 'increase'.
They are a pervertion of the norm.
Never heard of artificial insemination or surrogate mothers, huh? I have many same-sex friends who have had chilren together - one lesbian couple has a heterosexual son who is approaching his masters degree at an Ivy League school - not bad for a couple "sinners," huh?

The divorce rate among gay and lesbian couples per capaita is much lower than hetrosexual couples - making homosexual relationships a more healthy environment for children.

Your "norm" is taken from a text book that has been re-written every 100 years since the beginning of that time. You have no idea what the word pervertion means - especially when using in the context the way you did.

I have the impression you'd advocate white hoods for all grade school children.

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#28 Nov 16, 2012
quilterqueen wrote:
I'm torn about banning it, but when they bring in the ACLU - that shows how desperate they are and shows me that the purpose of the book isn't to entertain - it is to recruit.
You really would benefit from an education before posting.

http://phys.org/news84720662.html

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/10287/20...

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.b...

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#29 Nov 16, 2012
I found this list of banned books interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_ba...

This would all go away if some morning in the dew a web had been spun that say's...."Some Lesbians"

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#30 Nov 16, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Your logic is just slightly askew. Love isn't the world's norm either - war, hate, racism, etc., are. We, as adults, are terrible teachers - instead of leading by example, we tend nowadays to teach kids how to adapt to a violent and hateful world - always wary and cautious.
If homosexuality is indeed an inherited gene - as I pointed out, then any amount of exposure to it would not affect the child's development in any way, especially a book. I read Slaughter House 9 in grade school - it was a good read, but hardly affected my upbringing. Television violence on the other hand is not an inherited characteristic - instead, more of a learned experience if you will. Sesame Street is an excellent example - my daughter knew her alphabet by the time she was 3.
I was referring more to the love versus violence alternative than the homosexuality versus television alternative.
ummmmmmmm all due respect you are opening categories
I stated emotions .. that covers the whole scoop
frogmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#31 Nov 16, 2012
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Gunner

Muskogee, OK

#32 Nov 16, 2012
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.

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#33 Nov 16, 2012
Gunner wrote:
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.
Lol...well you know, they do have like a gay biker gang in Utah - The Hell's Bangles - they recruit all the time at the Gap and follow the Latter Day Saints around door-to-door.

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George Michael

Medford, NY

#34 Nov 16, 2012
Gunner wrote:
I've never heard a gay person say, "Let's go recruit some kids to be gay!" That's preposterous.
It's a good thing you weren't arount me then!!

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