Arizona Gay Marriage Initiative Goes ...

Arizona Gay Marriage Initiative Goes Dormant

There are 16 comments on the EDGE story from Sep 3, 2013, titled Arizona Gay Marriage Initiative Goes Dormant. In it, EDGE reports that:

An initiative campaign to have Arizona voters decide next year whether to legalize gay marriage is faltering amid reluctance by national and local advocacy groups to back the measure.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Sep 3, 2013
This is probably a good thing.

We don't need to have votes in every state; we need to be smart and pick our battles in states where we are most likely to succeed- i.e Oregon, Colorado, etc.

In addition, Arizona will likely see marriage equality in 2014 via the pending 9th circuit cases from Nevada & Hawaii.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#2 Sep 3, 2013
Finally somebody is showing some strategic acumen!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Sep 3, 2013
Obama should proclaim the entire State of Arizona to be 'Freddie Flintstone Theme Park' so republican neanderthals can live out their prehistoric fantasies uninhibited by reality

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#4 Sep 3, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
Obama should proclaim the entire State of Arizona to be 'Freddie Flintstone Theme Park' so republican neanderthals can live out their prehistoric fantasies uninhibited by reality
Except, unfortunately, there are a LOT of Democrats here.:(

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Sep 3, 2013
We are a republic. Marriage laws should not be subject to a vote of the populace.

If you allow this on same-gender marriage, then what is to stop someone from putting a similar measure on the ballot that would prohibit the marriage of Buddhist people, or Hindu people, or anyone else because they "are not living a Christian lifestyle" ?

We are a nation of mostly Christian people, but that is not the same thing as being a Christian nation.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Sep 3, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
We are a republic. Marriage laws should not be subject to a vote of the populace.
If you allow this on same-gender marriage, then what is to stop someone from putting a similar measure on the ballot that would prohibit the marriage of Buddhist people, or Hindu people, or anyone else because they "are not living a Christian lifestyle" ?
We are a nation of mostly Christian people, but that is not the same thing as being a Christian nation.
One way or another they're going to be voted on, whether by a majority of citizens in each state, the majority of legislators in each state, the majority of the Supreme Court of each state, or the majority of the SCOTUS.

Either way, marriage rights will be voted on.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Sep 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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One way or another they're going to be voted on, whether by a majority of citizens in each state, the majority of legislators in each state, the majority of the Supreme Court of each state, or the majority of the SCOTUS.
Either way, marriage rights will be voted on.
It should only be done by the legislature or judiciary. Unless you are a fan of "MOB RULE" ???

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Sep 3, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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It should only be done by the legislature or judiciary. Unless you are a fan of "MOB RULE" ???
Why? The legislators are simply the elected representatives of the mob.

If you truly believe our rights shouldn't be subject to popular vote, then the only option available is the federal judiciary or state judiciaries where they aren't elected.

The simple reality is our rights HAVE been and WILL be voted on. I favor whatever method gets us equality.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Sep 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why? The legislators are simply the elected representatives of the mob.
If you truly believe our rights shouldn't be subject to popular vote, then the only option available is the federal judiciary or state judiciaries where they aren't elected.
The simple reality is our rights HAVE been and WILL be voted on. I favor whatever method gets us equality.
Precisely for that reason.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#10 Sep 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why? The legislators are simply the elected representatives of the mob.
If you truly believe our rights shouldn't be subject to popular vote, then the only option available is the federal judiciary or state judiciaries where they aren't elected.
The simple reality is our rights HAVE been and WILL be voted on. I favor whatever method gets us equality.
I don't.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#11 Sep 4, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I don't.
Then don't bitch when you are discriminated against.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#12 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Then don't bitch when you are discriminated against.
I don't. I've been totally out for over 30 years, but haven't been discriminated against, because of being openly gay, for many decades.

Here in Arizona, I would rather see them finally build that 400 foot tall wall along the Mexican border that they're been talking about for so long to keep out all the illegals.

I'm sure YOU OF COURSE FAVOR people entering the U.S. illegally.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#13 Sep 4, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I don't. I've been totally out for over 30 years, but haven't been discriminated against, because of being openly gay, for many decades.
Here in Arizona, I would rather see them finally build that 400 foot tall wall along the Mexican border that they're been talking about for so long to keep out all the illegals.
I'm sure YOU OF COURSE FAVOR people entering the U.S. illegally.
You'd be wrong as usual.

I support stationing Marines every 10 ft along our southern border with shoot-to-kill orders for anyone illegally entering our country.

Btw, you HAVE been discriminated against just by being gay whether you realize it or not. Your rights have been restricted just because you're gay whether you've attempted to exercise those rights or not.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#14 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You'd be wrong as usual.
I support stationing Marines every 10 ft along our southern border with shoot-to-kill orders for anyone illegally entering our country.
Btw, you HAVE been discriminated against just by being gay whether you realize it or not. Your rights have been restricted just because you're gay whether you've attempted to exercise those rights or not.
As my dear old departed dad used to always say: "All you REALLY need to be happy in life is a COLD beer and a WARM cat." :)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#15 Sep 4, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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As my dear old departed dad used to always say: "All you REALLY need to be happy in life is a COLD beer and a WARM cat." :)
Sounds like dear old dad was as stupid as you. At least now we know where you get it from.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sounds like dear old dad was as stupid as you. At least now we know where you get it from.
No. He was SMART. And ALWAYS Fair. And Balanced. Just like me.:)

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